Twist | Mon 26-May-14 01:25 PM |
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#55432, "Blame me, not Valg..."
Edited on Mon 26-May-14 03:57 PM
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Edited to add: I feel like the original post sounded like me saying this was all me. Not at all the case, tons of the immstaff played a larger part than I. I'm just saying don't go all Valg-hating on instinct.
>This change has Valg written all over it. I'm surprised you >let this through Nep.
Actually, you can thank Valg for being awesome about turning around the coding on this really fast and (as far as I've seen) really well.
We'd started a thread on revamping the sleek system. It hit me one day as I was driving, like a ton of bricks, and I posted this:
"Isn't the bitching that people do, really, about the SEARCH for ABS? Sure, it kinda sucks if you get one of the harder barrier spots or whatever, but that's not where the angst comes in. It's the having to search for hours and hours. "
The new system is intended specifically to make the grind of searching the entire MUD go away.
My original idea was that the guildmaster (or spell, or whatever) would simply tell the character "Your sleek black rod is held by Floofi the Dragon in A Large Cave in The Desert of Eternal Sucknessocity." - that is, it would be "Your WAND_TYPE is held by MOB_OR_CONTAINER_NAME in ROOM_NAME in AREA_NAME."
We quickly decided this way of doing it would suck. For some locations it would be harder than the hints that were written, and in pretty much every circumstance it would be so mechanical and flavorless that it would be very bleh.
So, we agreed on hints. I insisted the hints should be pretty non-obscure. The whole point, again, is to minimize the complaints about searching.
I wrote a large portion of the hints, and reviewed the rest. I believe they should be pretty clear in general. The hints are differently worded for good/neutral/evil chars. In some cases, that meant that a good mage learns the name of the mob, while evil mages learn the name of the area. In other cases, it is reversed. I tried to make certain that nobody got the shaft (except neutral mages, because screw them, right? Pick a damn side.)
If you get a hint that you believe is far too obscure (or wrong), I'd like you to shoot me an email (twist@carrionfields.com) about it. I won't guarantee anything will change, but if there's enough negative feedback on one particular hint, that suggests to me that a change is merited.
The end game of this is that existing mages are maybe going to be screwed a bit - many of them had a sleek set that was workable (that's why they are "existing" mages instead of mages that deleted/rerolled at level 38). But in the long run, I think mage characters will (hopefully) be easier play, in terms of finding/having access to ABS.
Since this is a new system, we'll be tweaking and stuff, so don't get too twitchy if things aren't how you want them for now. The end goal (for me) is to make things better with this change.
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New System.
[View all] , Kalageadon, Mon 26-May-14 04:06 PM
On the topic of impossibly difficult black rod location...,
Abernyte,
28-May-14 09:32 AM, #121
I know right!,
Perpetual_Noob,
28-May-14 01:34 PM, #124
Attunement level,
incognito,
28-May-14 09:10 AM, #119
Scenario with possible problem.,
Abernyte,
28-May-14 02:27 AM, #115
New Clues.,
Kalageadon,
28-May-14 06:35 AM, #116
You only get hints for available wands.,
Valguarnera,
28-May-14 08:02 AM, #117
Alright!,
Sarien,
28-May-14 08:56 AM, #118
RE: Reset timers,
Valguarnera,
28-May-14 07:47 PM, #125
Ahh, now that makes sense. I had been curious:,
Treebeard,
29-May-14 01:12 PM, #126
RE: Ahh, now that makes sense. I had been curious:,
Daevryn,
29-May-14 05:24 PM, #127
RE: Ahh, now that makes sense. I had been curious:,
Valguarnera,
29-May-14 05:24 PM, #128
Not what I meant,
Abernyte,
28-May-14 09:30 AM, #120
That might explain why I wasn't getting any hints at al...,
TJHuron,
28-May-14 10:12 AM, #122
RE: That might explain why I wasn't getting any hints a...,
Twist,
28-May-14 11:01 AM, #123
Yes! Never again will you need to drag a newer player ...,
Sarien,
27-May-14 03:43 PM, #114
Attunement Edges,
Twist,
27-May-14 09:11 AM, #103
are the hints saved via 'quest'? nt,
Dallevian,
27-May-14 09:32 AM, #104
Nope.,
Twist,
27-May-14 10:55 AM, #107
Could you add it?,
Dallevian,
27-May-14 11:19 AM, #109
good explanation,
incognito,
27-May-14 10:18 AM, #105
I agree that's how it should work,
Twist,
27-May-14 10:53 AM, #106
RE: good explanation,
Daevryn,
27-May-14 11:00 AM, #108
Question/Scenario about new Wand System,
Moligant,
27-May-14 08:35 AM, #101
RE: Question/Scenario about new Wand System,
Twist,
27-May-14 08:57 AM, #102
Maybe this was asked already but I don't recall seeing ...,
TJHuron,
27-May-14 03:30 PM, #113
Since this relies on guildmasters...,
KaguMaru,
27-May-14 08:02 AM, #100
Related question,
incognito,
27-May-14 01:23 AM, #96
RE: Related question,
atanek,
30-May-14 03:10 PM, #129
Duration to ask should be slightly longer,
CD,
26-May-14 08:11 PM, #92
As a habitual mage player....,
AncientNewbie,
26-May-14 03:17 PM, #70
Overall, it's a positive change. Please ignore all whi...,
Doof,
26-May-14 03:14 PM, #69
Changing paradigms is the shifts.,
Quixotic,
26-May-14 01:40 PM, #63
Seems like a good change to me.,
Elerosse,
26-May-14 12:18 PM, #50
I never understood this...,
TMNS,
26-May-14 01:17 PM, #76
RE: I never understood this...,
Elerosse,
26-May-14 03:00 PM, #67
Seconded,
incognito,
27-May-14 01:31 AM, #97
It's an improvement,
incognito,
27-May-14 02:46 PM, #110
Its about options,
CD,
27-May-14 02:55 PM, #111
I can tell it is a good compromise. Everyone has mixed ...,
Quixotic,
26-May-14 08:01 AM, #42
RE: I can tell it is a good compromise. Everyone has mi...,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 08:46 AM, #45
You guys crack me up.,
TMNS,
26-May-14 12:15 PM, #49
What a useful post. nt,
Artificial,
26-May-14 12:20 PM, #52
RE: You guys crack me up.,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 12:38 PM, #54
I have plenty constructive things to say, you guys don'...,
TMNS,
26-May-14 01:13 PM, #57
RE: I have plenty constructive things to say, you guys ...,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 01:16 PM, #58
Alright, let me elaborate a bit (and you may have to ed...,
TMNS,
26-May-14 01:22 PM, #60
RE: Alright, let me elaborate a bit (and you may have t...,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 01:43 PM, #64
RE: Alright, let me elaborate a bit (and you may have t...,
Twist,
26-May-14 02:26 PM, #66
Hahahaha.,
TMNS,
26-May-14 04:15 PM, #77
Locating the bad spots should be easier under the new s...,
DurNominator,
27-May-14 03:26 AM, #98
Helps newbies,
Tsunami,
26-May-14 01:35 PM, #62
New wand system,
SideStrider,
26-May-14 11:56 AM, #46
Don't let the door hit you. nt,
Artificial,
26-May-14 12:20 PM, #53
The moral of the story is...,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 12:41 PM, #55
I'm just curious,
Dallevian,
26-May-14 01:11 PM, #56
RE: I'm just curious,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 01:16 PM, #59
and that's a problem nt,
Dallevian,
26-May-14 01:56 PM, #65
RE: and that's a problem nt,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 03:38 PM, #71
Exactly right plus,
TJHuron,
26-May-14 03:48 PM, #73
RE: Exactly right plus,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 03:54 PM, #74
I agree with Teej, you kicked ragers in the junk.,
TMNS,
26-May-14 04:16 PM, #79
I personally,
Artificial,
26-May-14 05:07 PM, #85
I might not happen a lot but it does happen,
TJHuron,
26-May-14 06:04 PM, #86
I learned my first dozen or so wands as a villager stal...,
Quixotic,
26-May-14 07:43 PM, #91
RE: Exactly right plus,
incognito,
26-May-14 11:16 PM, #95
why? because,
Dallevian,
26-May-14 04:36 PM, #81
RE: why? because,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 06:05 PM, #87
ok then,
Dallevian,
26-May-14 07:43 PM, #90
Wouldn't what you are saying apply to every one of your...,
TJHuron,
26-May-14 06:08 PM, #88
If by top tier you mean easy locations,
incognito,
27-May-14 02:55 PM, #112
How does the new system have anything to do with rager ...,
TJHuron,
26-May-14 03:45 PM, #72
Don't mind the haters, it's a great change.,
DurNominator,
26-May-14 04:58 PM, #84
RE: Exploration,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 07:05 PM, #89
Happy to try it,
incognito,
26-May-14 05:28 AM, #34
I think I am having a lack of sleep dull day but...,
Abernyte,
26-May-14 04:34 AM, #33
Sleek wands randomize each time.,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 07:16 AM, #38
Ok, thanks, lets give it a whirl.,
Abernyte,
26-May-14 12:00 PM, #47
Make all the wands able to get solo'd now then. Not de...,
CD,
26-May-14 12:36 AM, #31
Don't see that happening. (n/t),
Daevryn,
26-May-14 12:59 AM, #32
What about non-sienna, non-amber, and non-black sources...,
Polmier (Anonymous),
25-May-14 11:47 PM, #25
Non-sleek locations are unaffected. (nt),
Twist,
26-May-14 12:35 AM, #28
I like this change and the hnts are very specific nt.,
Polmier (Anonymous),
26-May-14 12:03 PM, #48
Allow me to point out a few things:,
Daevryn,
25-May-14 10:39 PM, #15
but, one could reasonably,
Dallevian,
25-May-14 11:04 PM, #18
Re: Piling up ABS:,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 11:06 PM, #20
but i could log on and get all 3 in 10 minutes,
Dallevian,
25-May-14 11:10 PM, #22
Does barrier attunement apply?,
Unsure bout this one (Anonymous),
25-May-14 11:04 PM, #19
It does.,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 08:13 AM, #21
RE: Does barrier attunement apply?,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 12:28 AM, #27
Valg post above seems at odds with this?,
incognito,
26-May-14 07:37 AM, #40
RE: Valg post above seems at odds with this?,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 08:09 AM, #43
RE: Allow me to point out a few things:,
Bemused,
25-May-14 11:33 PM, #23
RE: Allow me to point out a few things:,
Daevryn,
26-May-14 12:24 AM, #26
That is because of the imbalance in where you put the r...,
CD,
26-May-14 12:38 AM, #29
How dare you use logic to fortify your argument!,
TMNS,
26-May-14 12:51 AM, #30
RE: Imbalance,
Nythos (Anonymous),
26-May-14 09:45 PM, #93
Transmuter mobs requires redux and saves. The difficult...,
CD,
26-May-14 10:41 PM, #94
RE: Allow me to point out a few things:,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 07:28 AM, #39
Blame me, not Valg...,
Twist,
26-May-14 03:57 PM #61
RE: Blame me, not Valg...,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
26-May-14 04:00 PM, #75
this is an interesting idea,
Dallevian,
26-May-14 04:38 PM, #82
You could also take the attunement edge,
Destuvius,
26-May-14 04:52 PM, #83
How does attunement work now?,
KaguMaru,
27-May-14 08:00 AM, #99
RE: Hint language:,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 04:28 PM, #80
I don't get it,
KaguMaru,
26-May-14 06:34 AM, #35
RE: I don't get it,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 07:11 AM, #36
RE: New System.,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 09:27 PM, #1
RE: New System.,
Athioles,
25-May-14 09:35 PM, #2
RE: New System.,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 09:53 PM, #3
My only concern.,
Athioles,
25-May-14 10:04 PM, #6
RE: My only concern.,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 10:10 PM, #8
Ancestral curse. It's more than just a flaw in a mud ga...,
Athioles,
25-May-14 10:13 PM, #10
RE: My only concern.,
Kalageadon,
25-May-14 10:25 PM, #14
RE: My only concern.,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 10:39 PM, #16
RE: My only concern.,
Kalageadon,
25-May-14 10:51 PM, #17
Duration.,
Kalageadon,
25-May-14 10:11 PM, #9
i can burn through a barrier in one fight,
Dallevian,
25-May-14 10:14 PM, #11
Discuss timer wasn't intentional, and is FNCR.,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 10:21 PM, #13
I'm a little slow,
Dallevian,
25-May-14 09:58 PM, #4
Replacement system.,
Valguarnera,
25-May-14 10:02 PM, #5
great, the week i finally hit the jackpot!,
Dallevian,
25-May-14 10:07 PM, #7
I agree even with this new system ,
Athioles,
25-May-14 10:15 PM, #12
Picking Hints,
Artificial,
25-May-14 11:37 PM, #24
RE: Picking Hints,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 07:14 AM, #37
Price seems low enough to be flavour,
incognito,
26-May-14 07:43 AM, #41
RE: Price seems low enough to be flavour,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 08:16 AM, #44
Heh,
incognito,
26-May-14 03:12 PM, #68
No worry.,
Valguarnera,
26-May-14 04:16 PM, #78
My fault,
Artificial,
26-May-14 12:19 PM, #51
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