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Nivek1Fri 28-Mar-03 12:29 PM
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#534, "RE: RP-related pet peeves"


          

>I have always been bugged by those characters who kill me and
>then I ask why, just to get no answer at all or the
>all-encompassing "I had my reasons". Yeah, so you had
>reasons....Ummm What were they? Sometimes I might already
>know OOC what the reasons were...but it is interesting to get
>an IC response and give our characters a chance to interact on
>more than a pk basis.

It's fine for you to be bugged by a seemingly non-motive PK. On the other side of the equation, killing four people and having three bombard you with questions of "Why?" gets stale. Often, the PK'er might be doing something else that they find ten times more important than answering questions of someone they killed.

Just trying to show the other side has priorities and feelings too. I agree with Nepenthe in that some of the best remembered people stand out in RP to friend and foes. Not everyone strives for that mark with every character though.

>>6) Players who are only capable of playing one type of
>>character.
>>
>
>This one I think depends a lot on how long a person has been
>playing CF and their own personal preferences. Characters
>should not be cookie cutters of each other that's for sure.
>But if someone really enjoys playing a particular
>class/cabal/religion/race...or whatever. Or if they don't
>really like playing the goody...or the bad guy...why should
>they do that just to please an IMM? We are all here to have a
>good time. It's very hard to roleplay something you don't
>like doing. You lose interest quickly if you don't enjoy your
>character. This is especially true for someone new to CF
>...they may want to play a particular class over and over
>again until they get a really good handle on how to play it.
>That holds true even for older players who want to try a class
>they've never done before. They may screw it up a bit or get
>PK'd into oblivion and decide to try again. They should be
>allowed that privilege even if it takes a dozen tries to get
>it right or to have a character they really are happy with.
>On the other hand, the new character should always be unique
>enough that people do not look at this new character and
>immediately think..."oh that's so and so reincarnated".

Agreed here. It's easy, for example, to pick out the Amber & Jesse elven-healer-bria follower. I also found it easy to pick out Chris Warren-played characters. Shamus et al of the village were kind of easy to spot too. And of course, almost any rager that looks promising but deletes way too early is certain to be Abernyte. :-P

Is there anything wrong with that? Yes and no. Yes because there are people out there who will treat that player's new character the same as they treated all the previous characters. No because well, maybe they just like playing the same type of character. A fine line, to be sure.

>7) The amazing halting role.
>>

Guilty as charged.

>

>>9) Players who don't think very hard about the implications
>>of their character's beliefs/roleplay, especially when it
>>comes to choices in who to kill or what gear to wear.
>>
>>There sure are a lot of paladins running around murdering
>>sentient neutral mobs for gear without a second thought.
>>Think about that for a minute.
>>
>>If you're a Sylvan, and your character believes that
>>conjurers/necromancers/etc. are bad mojo, what are you doing
>>conjuring elementals with certain objects, or wearing the
>>gauntlets of living flesh? How is conjuring demons bad, but
>>wearing artifacts obviously containing entrapped demons all
>>right? I don't care how many hit points or damroll
>>they give you, that's weak.
>
>Yep this is VERY true and something that bugs me too. I
>played at another MUD, which shall remain nameless, for about
>a week once. It was designed in such a way that everyone had
>to begin gaining exp by killing bunnie rabbits and ferrets. I
>had rolled a Druid character. I quit really quick because of
>the fact that I couldn't see how a druid would kill bunnies
>and ferrets and then call herself a good druid. At CF the game
>is designed so you don't have to do anything that is opposed
>to your character's morals. But a character's morals should
>not be based solely on alignment...they should include race,
>class, ethos, sphere, and most importantly role.

More annoying is players who cry and scream about these IC issues on OOC forums. Did my rager wear a bracelet of charms? You bet he did. The description of the item states that, to an untrained eye, it looks like a regular bracelet. My rager knew that it made him hit harder than other bracelets. Is that a loophole I'm exploiting? Maybe. But who are the forum flamers to judge?

>
>>10) Recently mentioned in another thread: Characters that
>>attempt to speak completely or mostly in a 'different
>>language' drive me freakin' nuts. The odd one word here or
>>there for flavor? That I have no problem with, especially
>if
>>it's for a concept that doesn't really exist in
>>English/common. To try to explain what I mean poorly with
>>real-world examples, words like 'karma', 'machismo', or
>>'bushido' might succinctly refer to non-Anglo-Saxon-ish
>>background concepts.
>>
>I agree with this too. I actually like an occasional word or
>two that can be easily understood or translated. Ver strong
>accents are annoying to me too. I have a hard time
>understanding mino-speak as do many of us I think. And there
>was a ceratin character that I stopped running going learning
>with just because I couldn't understand his thick accent. It
>made it hard for me to understand what he was saying half the
>time.

If it's within my character's role to do so, I avoid or kill people I don't understand depending on what the situation calls for. Some drow comes up to me and says some crap like "Vendui" to my cloud warrior? Maybe it's an insult. Kill!

  

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HOT TopicRP-related pet peeves [View all] , nepenthe, Fri 28-Mar-03 07:39 AM
Reply Comments, replies and extra peeves., Marcus_, 08-Apr-03 10:57 AM, #59
Reply 7) The amazing halting role. - Honesty, Deavr, 02-Apr-03 11:15 PM, #50
Reply I have sooo much writing to do now!, Xandrya, 03-Apr-03 01:07 PM, #55
Reply I have a small request., Exit, 31-Mar-03 03:24 AM, #41
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Llohuir, 30-Mar-03 09:34 PM, #39
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Quislet, 31-Mar-03 12:37 PM, #42
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Sabiene, 29-Mar-03 03:17 AM, #22
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, nepenthe, 29-Mar-03 04:07 AM, #23
Reply Just to play light Devil's Advocate., Zefarah, 29-Mar-03 12:19 AM, #20
Reply RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate., Valguarnera, 29-Mar-03 01:59 AM, #21
Reply RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate., nepenthe, 29-Mar-03 04:49 AM, #24
Reply The Dread of trying to inspire RP., Zefarah, 30-Mar-03 07:34 PM, #38
     Reply I am speechless. I am without speech., nepenthe, 31-Mar-03 02:10 AM, #40
     Reply Wherein I am boggling at the concept!, Xandrya, 03-Apr-03 12:59 PM, #54
     Reply Very good sentiments and I would like to add something, Anal_Retentive, 01-Apr-03 04:26 PM, #44
     Reply RE: Very good sentiments and I would like to add someth..., Valguarnera, 01-Apr-03 04:51 PM, #45
          Reply I understand this but, Anal_Retentive, 02-Apr-03 01:17 AM, #46
               Reply But, but, but..., Ululari, 02-Apr-03 06:22 PM, #47
               Reply You totally missed my point n/t, Anal_Retentive, 02-Apr-03 08:35 PM, #48
                    Reply Thank you for telling me that n/t, Ululari, 03-Apr-03 03:41 PM, #57
               Reply I'll try to clarify a few things, Savraeth, 02-Apr-03 09:00 PM, #49
     Reply RE: The Dread of trying to inspire RP., Doge, 03-Apr-03 05:27 PM, #58
Reply RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate., Ladrias, 29-Mar-03 08:58 AM, #25
Reply The first perception is downright wrong, Xandrya, 29-Mar-03 04:15 PM, #27
Reply RE: Just to play light Devil's Advocate., Quislet, 03-Apr-03 01:46 PM, #56
Reply An additional thought about roles:, nepenthe, 28-Mar-03 10:46 PM, #19
Reply Definitely!, Xandrya, 29-Mar-03 04:23 PM, #26
Reply Deleted message, josiah (Anonymous), 29-Mar-03 09:29 PM, #28
Reply No, that can blow up in YOUR face., nepenthe, 29-Mar-03 09:41 PM, #29
     Reply Deleted message, josiah (Anonymous), 29-Mar-03 10:04 PM, #30
     Reply RE: Let's discuss ethos then., Valguarnera, 29-Mar-03 11:47 PM, #31
          Reply Deleted message, josiah (Anonymous), 30-Mar-03 12:09 AM, #32
          Reply Uncle Z says 'Shut your festering gob, you tit' (n/t), Zulghinlour, 30-Mar-03 12:44 AM, #33
               Reply Uncle Z also says 'Please don't astroturf here either', Zulghinlour, 30-Mar-03 02:15 AM, #35
          Reply Im sorry, but here is where I put my foot down., Korran, 30-Mar-03 09:52 AM, #36
     Reply Wow., Jhyrbian, 30-Mar-03 01:33 AM, #34
Reply RE: An additional thought about roles:, General_Malaise, 14-Jul-04 01:43 PM, #61
Reply A few additions:, Amaranthe, 28-Mar-03 07:56 PM, #18
Reply Felars and Arials, Xandrya, 31-Mar-03 02:32 PM, #43
Reply RE: Felars and Arials, Quislet, 03-Apr-03 10:29 AM, #53
Reply RE: A few additions:, Vashka, 03-Apr-03 03:04 AM, #51
     Reply RE: A few additions:, Quislet, 03-Apr-03 10:09 AM, #52
Reply Marginal aside re: Emotes, Valguarnera, 28-Mar-03 05:27 PM, #15
Reply RE: Marginal aside re: Emotes, Racli, 28-Mar-03 06:18 PM, #16
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Valkenar, 28-Mar-03 03:46 PM, #8
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, nepenthe, 28-Mar-03 04:37 PM, #10
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Hutto, 28-Mar-03 03:36 PM, #7
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, nepenthe, 28-Mar-03 05:21 PM, #14
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Hutto, 14-Jul-04 11:22 AM, #60
Reply I'm guilty of some, jasmin, 28-Mar-03 01:07 PM, #6
Reply RE: I'm guilty of some, nepenthe, 28-Mar-03 04:47 PM, #11
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Xandrya, 28-Mar-03 12:54 PM, #4
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Nivek1, 28-Mar-03 12:29 PM #5
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Valkenar, 28-Mar-03 03:58 PM, #9
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, nepenthe, 28-Mar-03 05:19 PM, #13
Reply Boy, I agree with just about everything said., permanewbie, 28-Mar-03 10:33 AM, #3
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Larcat, 28-Mar-03 09:02 AM, #2
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, nepenthe, 28-Mar-03 04:56 PM, #12
Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, incognito, 28-Mar-03 08:21 AM, #1
     Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Boldereth, 28-Mar-03 07:38 PM, #17
          Reply RE: RP-related pet peeves, Quislet, 30-Mar-03 02:09 PM, #37
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