I think Minyar played Lornis, can't remember Frismund's player. He and Frismund spoke with me cause I had aided them a bunch of times and then they inducted my bard. Being a bard you kind of get more of a pass on newbieness maybe, just because most bards never go scion, so maybe that helped me and everyone likes having a bard lackey to give them the songs before they go out and whoop ass. Cause stacking bagatelle, battaglia, and anthem on top of a chancellor powered abs shifter just made him even tougher.

I get the leader role, and the vetting in scion for applicants. My thought was just that most players that see another player putting effort into playing the game and not just powergaming will probably give a little more time to that player, and maybe help them figure it out. Especially in all the other cabals, where most people are given their chance to play their chars, so leaders really never boot except in maybe empire.

Now, if you get the chancellor killed cause of stupidity, you might get booted, and your newbieness may be to blame. And that is how it goes. So yes, maybe you need to have a small degree of competency to stay in scion. But really, I was playing my first bard, my first evil, and my first truly caballed character that got into cabal wars.

Those were fun days, were often 4-5 scions around. But I did see that all the other scions were certainly better and more knowledgable about most all aspects of the game then I was, so I'm sure I caused a few facepalms. But I think there were less as I picked up how to play a scion from them.

I just think scion works fine, people in it just have to understand that not everyone is going to be the beast scion, and that is ok.