Daevryn | Fri 25-Jan-13 09:46 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#48629, "I'll take a stab at it:"
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One on one fight in a locked room, no retreat no surrender 1 on 1 favors Battle, absolutely.
Ganging is one way to not play that game, but there are others, like:
- If you're a stealth character, choose to only initiate combat if circumstances favor you. Yeah, the guy you catch plagued and out of move on the riverbed might get lucky and still beat you... but he probably won't.
- Attack the Ragers you stack up well against, quaff return/teleport against the ones you don't.
- Make liberal use of the healer. If you lack malediction or command denial ability, this may not always get you a kill, but it can easily yield a situation where your enemy has to hide at the Destructor (or somewhere) to avoid dying for a long while.
- Make liberal use of maledictions that cut HP regen or deal regular HP damage, because Battle is seriously ####ed against those things unless there's a defender or bard very handy, and usually there isn't. We had a guy in Nexus in the midlevels a couple years ago, arial spear warrior I think. He got a poison spear and would charge Battle and spam impale at them, and I mean he would keep impaling even after it worked for no good reason. He died a lot but he killed a lot of Ragers too because what does Battle berserker really have for that? Run to the village and buy a cure poison there, but after a couple ticks of poison and the bleeding sticking around it was just too much.
- See a rager that can't permalag you (and most shouldn't be able to)? Run up to him and bash him. If he's doing badly, keep bashing. If he's not, quaff.
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Deathblow Discussion
[View all] , orangepowered, Tue 22-Jan-13 06:11 PM
There's a log on dios where vanguard falls mid battle. ,
jalbrin,
26-Jan-13 12:49 PM, #91
Links or it didn't happen. (N/t),
orangepowered,
26-Jan-13 02:25 PM, #92
Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduction...,
jalbrin,
02-Feb-13 02:53 PM, #103
RE: Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduc...,
orangepowered,
04-Feb-13 10:49 AM, #104
A couple things.,
TMNS,
04-Feb-13 01:39 PM, #105
RE: A couple things.,
orangepowered,
04-Feb-13 05:31 PM, #107
Wrap Up,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:50 PM, #87
RE: Wrap Up,
Daevryn,
26-Jan-13 01:04 AM, #88
Heal and run is unsatisfying,
Valkenar,
28-Jan-13 09:54 PM, #99
RE: Heal and run is unsatisfying,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-13 10:45 PM, #101
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Malakhi,
24-Jan-13 10:00 PM, #35
Time investment and luck,
Artificial,
25-Jan-13 01:15 AM, #36
RE: Time investment and luck,
Illanthos,
25-Jan-13 11:13 AM, #43
It can be that bad,
incognito,
25-Jan-13 12:04 PM, #44
You don't need barrier to pk.,
Tesline,
28-Jan-13 12:40 PM, #97
If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap,
Artificial,
25-Jan-13 01:28 PM, #48
RE: If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap,
Illanthos,
25-Jan-13 02:00 PM, #52
don't agree with much of this,
incognito,
25-Jan-13 07:33 PM, #79
hard is a relative term,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 11:00 PM, #84
RE: hard is a relative term,
Illanthos,
26-Jan-13 01:28 AM, #89
stick a tampon in it,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 02:17 PM, #55
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Isildur,
25-Jan-13 08:19 AM, #37
A stupid suggestion that would solve this and above com...,
Tac,
25-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #39
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Marcus_,
25-Jan-13 10:04 AM, #40
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 09:52 AM, #38
Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #41
RE: Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:41 PM, #61
you aren't understanding what is being said,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 04:14 PM, #62
That's exactly it.,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 04:45 PM, #66
RE: That's exactly it.,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:09 PM, #68
The point continues to elude you.,
Homard,
25-Jan-13 05:14 PM, #71
RE: The point continues to elude you.,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:15 PM, #72
I'll take a stab at it:,
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:46 PM #82
RE: I'll take a stab at it:,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:36 PM, #85
Some thoughts,
lasentia,
25-Jan-13 12:16 PM, #47
RE: Some thoughts,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:36 PM, #59
you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealing wi...,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 04:15 PM, #63
RE: you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealin...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 04:30 PM, #64
On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the worst.,
TMNS,
25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #50
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 02:51 PM, #56
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 03:07 PM, #58
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 03:40 PM, #60
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 04:33 PM, #65
RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:08 PM, #67
You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily ove...,
Amberion,
25-Jan-13 05:10 PM, #69
RE: You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #70
Well, like this:,
Amberion,
25-Jan-13 05:29 PM, #74
Thanks, super appreciated (n/t),
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 05:36 PM, #76
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:08 PM, #81
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 11:39 PM, #86
Only chars I play that "farm gold" are imperials...,
Amberion,
26-Jan-13 03:35 AM, #90
For the record,
Marcus_,
23-Jan-13 05:07 AM, #7
RE: For the record,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 09:33 AM, #13
RE: For the record,
Marcus_,
23-Jan-13 10:55 AM, #19
Cool, thanks for being reasonable. (n/t),
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 11:46 AM, #20
RE: Deathblow Discussion,
Daevryn,
22-Jan-13 07:40 PM, #2
Yes, though not a RBW. (N/t),
orangepowered,
22-Jan-13 07:58 PM, #3
My experience with Krunk tells me RBW is hopelessy unde...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 09:07 AM, #9
I don't disagree with anything you said in the message,...,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 09:29 AM, #12
No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallacy,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 10:19 AM, #17
RE: No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallac...,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 10:22 AM, #18
You are doing something wrong.,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #25
RE: You are doing something wrong.,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 04:21 PM, #29
That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 05:59 PM, #30
RE: That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying....,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 06:07 PM, #31
In Nabig's logs there's a mention of how underpowered d...,
highbutterfly,
24-Jan-13 03:05 AM, #32
The problem with this...,
Homard,
22-Jan-13 07:06 PM, #1
RE: The problem with this...,
Isildur,
22-Jan-13 07:59 PM, #4
That's not what I'm saying at all.,
Homard,
22-Jan-13 08:59 PM, #5
RE: That's not what I'm saying at all.,
Isildur,
23-Jan-13 08:29 AM, #8
FWIW I find villagers (especially berserkers) the easie...,
TMNS,
23-Jan-13 04:18 PM, #28
this is all so silly,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 09:09 AM, #10
RE: this is all so silly,
orangepowered,
23-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #14
You are over generalizing a little,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 12:23 PM, #21
How are you outdamaging them?,
Valkenar,
24-Jan-13 03:22 PM, #33
RE: How are you outdamaging them?,
Daevryn,
24-Jan-13 09:59 PM, #34
The log from the log board.,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 10:37 AM, #42
umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashing/cr...,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 12:05 PM, #45
RE: umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashin...,
orangepowered,
25-Jan-13 12:11 PM, #46
That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very typica...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #49
having played a lot of tough villagers,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 02:08 PM, #54
Aye. It gets much much better for villagers when they a...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 05:31 PM, #75
I would upvote this if it was that kind of forum (n/t),
Daevryn,
25-Jan-13 09:03 PM, #80
This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF,
vorian,
27-Jan-13 11:17 AM, #93
RE: This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF,
Daevryn,
27-Jan-13 11:39 AM, #94
With Eryndiahl ,
CD,
27-Jan-13 11:58 AM, #95
not that highly limited,
laxman,
28-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #96
I see, but ...,
vorian,
28-Jan-13 08:21 PM, #98
hitroll has virtually no value for a hero range warrior,
laxman,
29-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #102
RE: not that highly limited,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-13 10:41 PM, #100
Couldn't have said it better myself. NT,
TMNS,
04-Feb-13 01:42 PM, #106
RE: That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very ty...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 03:04 PM, #57
I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to have ...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 05:25 PM, #73
RE: I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to h...,
Malakhi,
25-Jan-13 06:46 PM, #77
And why should ANY POWERS help against textbook kills?,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 07:27 PM, #78
you assume it was just db,
laxman,
25-Jan-13 10:53 PM, #83
Here's a better (set) of logs.,
TMNS,
25-Jan-13 01:53 PM, #51
Man do berserkers love ganging this guy outside of raid...,
Shapa,
25-Jan-13 02:02 PM, #53
RE: The problem with this...,
highbutterfly,
23-Jan-13 02:02 AM, #6
they can end the war you know,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 09:12 AM, #11
My experience is that villagers won't end a war,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 10:16 AM, #16
having been in many village wars thats bull,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 12:27 PM, #22
I reluctantly agree...,
Tac,
23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #26
RE: they can end the war you know,
Isildur,
23-Jan-13 12:31 PM, #23
you assume that having a mage leader is why they are at...,
laxman,
23-Jan-13 01:39 PM, #24
It would not be typical Maran RP,
Humbert,
23-Jan-13 04:13 PM, #27
The Village/Fort War is an unusual state of affairs.,
Homard,
23-Jan-13 10:15 AM, #15
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