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DaevrynFri 25-Jan-13 09:46 PM
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#48629, "I'll take a stab at it:"


          

One on one fight in a locked room, no retreat no surrender 1 on 1 favors Battle, absolutely.

Ganging is one way to not play that game, but there are others, like:

- If you're a stealth character, choose to only initiate combat if circumstances favor you. Yeah, the guy you catch plagued and out of move on the riverbed might get lucky and still beat you... but he probably won't.

- Attack the Ragers you stack up well against, quaff return/teleport against the ones you don't.

- Make liberal use of the healer. If you lack malediction or command denial ability, this may not always get you a kill, but it can easily yield a situation where your enemy has to hide at the Destructor (or somewhere) to avoid dying for a long while.

- Make liberal use of maledictions that cut HP regen or deal regular HP damage, because Battle is seriously ####ed against those things unless there's a defender or bard very handy, and usually there isn't. We had a guy in Nexus in the midlevels a couple years ago, arial spear warrior I think. He got a poison spear and would charge Battle and spam impale at them, and I mean he would keep impaling even after it worked for no good reason. He died a lot but he killed a lot of Ragers too because what does Battle berserker really have for that? Run to the village and buy a cure poison there, but after a couple ticks of poison and the bleeding sticking around it was just too much.

- See a rager that can't permalag you (and most shouldn't be able to)? Run up to him and bash him. If he's doing badly, keep bashing. If he's not, quaff.

  

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HOT TopicDeathblow Discussion [View all] , orangepowered, Tue 22-Jan-13 06:11 PM
Reply There's a log on dios where vanguard falls mid battle. , jalbrin, 26-Jan-13 12:49 PM, #91
Reply Links or it didn't happen. (N/t), orangepowered, 26-Jan-13 02:25 PM, #92
     Reply Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduction..., jalbrin, 02-Feb-13 02:53 PM, #103
          Reply RE: Here is your log showing fifty percent damage reduc..., orangepowered, 04-Feb-13 10:49 AM, #104
               Reply A couple things., TMNS, 04-Feb-13 01:39 PM, #105
                    Reply RE: A couple things., orangepowered, 04-Feb-13 05:31 PM, #107
Reply Wrap Up, orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 11:50 PM, #87
Reply RE: Wrap Up, Daevryn, 26-Jan-13 01:04 AM, #88
Reply Heal and run is unsatisfying, Valkenar, 28-Jan-13 09:54 PM, #99
     Reply RE: Heal and run is unsatisfying, Daevryn, 28-Jan-13 10:45 PM, #101
Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, Malakhi, 24-Jan-13 10:00 PM, #35
Reply Time investment and luck, Artificial, 25-Jan-13 01:15 AM, #36
Reply RE: Time investment and luck, Illanthos, 25-Jan-13 11:13 AM, #43
Reply It can be that bad, incognito, 25-Jan-13 12:04 PM, #44
Reply You don't need barrier to pk., Tesline, 28-Jan-13 12:40 PM, #97
Reply If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap, Artificial, 25-Jan-13 01:28 PM, #48
     Reply RE: If you're an obligate limited black necro/ap, Illanthos, 25-Jan-13 02:00 PM, #52
          Reply don't agree with much of this, incognito, 25-Jan-13 07:33 PM, #79
               Reply hard is a relative term, laxman, 25-Jan-13 11:00 PM, #84
                    Reply RE: hard is a relative term, Illanthos, 26-Jan-13 01:28 AM, #89
Reply stick a tampon in it, laxman, 25-Jan-13 02:17 PM, #55
Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, Isildur, 25-Jan-13 08:19 AM, #37
Reply A stupid suggestion that would solve this and above com..., Tac, 25-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #39
Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, Marcus_, 25-Jan-13 10:04 AM, #40
Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 09:52 AM, #38
     Reply Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle, Homard, 25-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #41
     Reply RE: Some ways for Nexus to dominate Battle, orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 03:41 PM, #61
          Reply you aren't understanding what is being said, laxman, 25-Jan-13 04:14 PM, #62
               Reply That's exactly it., Homard, 25-Jan-13 04:45 PM, #66
                    Reply RE: That's exactly it., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 05:09 PM, #68
                         Reply The point continues to elude you., Homard, 25-Jan-13 05:14 PM, #71
                              Reply RE: The point continues to elude you., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 05:15 PM, #72
                                   Reply I'll take a stab at it:, Daevryn, 25-Jan-13 09:46 PM #82
                                        Reply RE: I'll take a stab at it:, orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 11:36 PM, #85
     Reply Some thoughts, lasentia, 25-Jan-13 12:16 PM, #47
     Reply RE: Some thoughts, orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 03:36 PM, #59
          Reply you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealing wi..., laxman, 25-Jan-13 04:15 PM, #63
               Reply RE: you do know that parry/dodge > dam redux for dealin..., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 04:30 PM, #64
     Reply On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the worst., TMNS, 25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #50
     Reply RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor..., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 02:51 PM, #56
          Reply RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor..., Malakhi, 25-Jan-13 03:07 PM, #58
          Reply RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor..., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 03:40 PM, #60
               Reply RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor..., Malakhi, 25-Jan-13 04:33 PM, #65
                    Reply RE: On a ABS shifter, boneshatter or forget are the wor..., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 05:08 PM, #67
          Reply You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily ove..., Amberion, 25-Jan-13 05:10 PM, #69
               Reply RE: You are assuming a bunch of things here and heavily..., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #70
                    Reply Well, like this:, Amberion, 25-Jan-13 05:29 PM, #74
                         Reply Thanks, super appreciated (n/t), orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 05:36 PM, #76
     Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, Daevryn, 25-Jan-13 09:08 PM, #81
          Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 11:39 PM, #86
               Reply Only chars I play that "farm gold" are imperials..., Amberion, 26-Jan-13 03:35 AM, #90
Reply For the record, Marcus_, 23-Jan-13 05:07 AM, #7
Reply RE: For the record, orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 09:33 AM, #13
     Reply RE: For the record, Marcus_, 23-Jan-13 10:55 AM, #19
          Reply Cool, thanks for being reasonable. (n/t), orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 11:46 AM, #20
Reply RE: Deathblow Discussion, Daevryn, 22-Jan-13 07:40 PM, #2
Reply Yes, though not a RBW. (N/t), orangepowered, 22-Jan-13 07:58 PM, #3
Reply My experience with Krunk tells me RBW is hopelessy unde..., Tac, 23-Jan-13 09:07 AM, #9
     Reply I don't disagree with anything you said in the message,..., orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 09:29 AM, #12
          Reply No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallacy, Tac, 23-Jan-13 10:19 AM, #17
               Reply RE: No, I'm pointing out your original post in a fallac..., orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 10:22 AM, #18
                    Reply You are doing something wrong., Tac, 23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #25
                         Reply RE: You are doing something wrong., orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 04:21 PM, #29
                              Reply That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying..., Tac, 23-Jan-13 05:59 PM, #30
                                   Reply RE: That is exactly what the first paragraph is saying...., orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 06:07 PM, #31
Reply In Nabig's logs there's a mention of how underpowered d..., highbutterfly, 24-Jan-13 03:05 AM, #32
Reply The problem with this..., Homard, 22-Jan-13 07:06 PM, #1
     Reply RE: The problem with this..., Isildur, 22-Jan-13 07:59 PM, #4
     Reply That's not what I'm saying at all., Homard, 22-Jan-13 08:59 PM, #5
     Reply RE: That's not what I'm saying at all., Isildur, 23-Jan-13 08:29 AM, #8
          Reply FWIW I find villagers (especially berserkers) the easie..., TMNS, 23-Jan-13 04:18 PM, #28
     Reply this is all so silly, laxman, 23-Jan-13 09:09 AM, #10
          Reply RE: this is all so silly, orangepowered, 23-Jan-13 10:07 AM, #14
               Reply You are over generalizing a little, laxman, 23-Jan-13 12:23 PM, #21
                    Reply How are you outdamaging them?, Valkenar, 24-Jan-13 03:22 PM, #33
                         Reply RE: How are you outdamaging them?, Daevryn, 24-Jan-13 09:59 PM, #34
                              Reply The log from the log board., Shapa, 25-Jan-13 10:37 AM, #42
                                   Reply umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashing/cr..., laxman, 25-Jan-13 12:05 PM, #45
                                   Reply RE: umm one example doesn't change the fact that bashin..., orangepowered, 25-Jan-13 12:11 PM, #46
                                   Reply That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very typica..., Shapa, 25-Jan-13 01:45 PM, #49
                                        Reply having played a lot of tough villagers, laxman, 25-Jan-13 02:08 PM, #54
                                        Reply Aye. It gets much much better for villagers when they a..., Shapa, 25-Jan-13 05:31 PM, #75
                                        Reply I would upvote this if it was that kind of forum (n/t), Daevryn, 25-Jan-13 09:03 PM, #80
                                        Reply This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF, vorian, 27-Jan-13 11:17 AM, #93
                                        Reply RE: This is why i'm still a newb after many years of CF, Daevryn, 27-Jan-13 11:39 AM, #94
                                             Reply With Eryndiahl , CD, 27-Jan-13 11:58 AM, #95
                                             Reply not that highly limited, laxman, 28-Jan-13 10:00 AM, #96
                                                  Reply I see, but ..., vorian, 28-Jan-13 08:21 PM, #98
                                                  Reply hitroll has virtually no value for a hero range warrior, laxman, 29-Jan-13 05:12 PM, #102
                                                  Reply RE: not that highly limited, Daevryn, 28-Jan-13 10:41 PM, #100
                                        Reply Couldn't have said it better myself. NT, TMNS, 04-Feb-13 01:42 PM, #106
                                        Reply RE: That log wasn't typical in one way, but was very ty..., Malakhi, 25-Jan-13 03:04 PM, #57
                                             Reply I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to have ..., Shapa, 25-Jan-13 05:25 PM, #73
                                                  Reply RE: I am saying that berserker's powers don't need to h..., Malakhi, 25-Jan-13 06:46 PM, #77
                                                       Reply And why should ANY POWERS help against textbook kills?, Shapa, 25-Jan-13 07:27 PM, #78
                                                            Reply you assume it was just db, laxman, 25-Jan-13 10:53 PM, #83
                                   Reply Here's a better (set) of logs., TMNS, 25-Jan-13 01:53 PM, #51
                                        Reply Man do berserkers love ganging this guy outside of raid..., Shapa, 25-Jan-13 02:02 PM, #53
     Reply RE: The problem with this..., highbutterfly, 23-Jan-13 02:02 AM, #6
          Reply they can end the war you know, laxman, 23-Jan-13 09:12 AM, #11
          Reply My experience is that villagers won't end a war, Tac, 23-Jan-13 10:16 AM, #16
          Reply having been in many village wars thats bull, laxman, 23-Jan-13 12:27 PM, #22
               Reply I reluctantly agree..., Tac, 23-Jan-13 02:31 PM, #26
          Reply RE: they can end the war you know, Isildur, 23-Jan-13 12:31 PM, #23
               Reply you assume that having a mage leader is why they are at..., laxman, 23-Jan-13 01:39 PM, #24
                    Reply It would not be typical Maran RP, Humbert, 23-Jan-13 04:13 PM, #27
          Reply The Village/Fort War is an unusual state of affairs., Homard, 23-Jan-13 10:15 AM, #15
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