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lasentiaThu 26-May-11 01:03 PM
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#99620, "Villagers own people all the time."


          

Knacnar, Ohbehb, Djabree, Woldrun and Elgroth. All 200+ Pks
If you go by 100+ battle has 38.
empire has 45, fort has 13, Outlander 20, scion 30, and tribunal 11.
And nexus, their main enemy, has an astounding 8.
So who really gets owned out there? (yes these are just basic numbers with out a lot of real analysis, but they do show villagers are not quite the punching bags of Thera)

Some people can thrive as villagers within the confines of their rules, some can not, that's all there is to it. I can't play a villager well, but I don't say that's because there is a problem with the village, it's a problem with me and how I like to play.

It's one thing to premptively strike a guy in the ruins. Another at high lords. There are LOTS of other reasons to get blood besides Flaaayin. Maybe they like to eat fillets. Maybe they are fighting a dragon. Maybe they just want poison immunity in case they do have to fight Flaaayin, even though they have no intention of going to the village. Sitting at High Lords and using that as a justification is iffy. Killing Nexuns/mages/cabal enemies there, that's fine of course. Killing anyone else, that's the gray area. No different for a duerg sitting on eastern. You put yourself there, don't be surprised if a paladin wraths you if they see you. That doesn't mean you get to bash them first. You almost always have another option. Most people however, want the one that lets them PK somebody else, so that's what they do, and then give some piss poor justification afterwards like "he was going to wrath me if I didn't".

There is a simple solution if you don't want people bothering you. Don't play an evil. (eliminates fort as enemies) Don't play anything outlanders hate. Don't break the law. Be a neutral orderly human warrior, and you'll largely go unnoticed in the village by most everyone. Empire/nexus/scion and all mages will bother you, but you can attack them anywhere anyway so no big deal.

People choose their class and all that, and get the perks, then complain about having drawbacks in exchange for them. Being a villager means following the cabal rules. And some villagers look for s****y justifications to get around them lots of times. But once you start making rationalizations and assumptions to justify your actions, you know you're doing something you should not, and that's why you make those very justifications. 9 out of 10 times there are no reprecussions for it. But sometimes, Thror comes down and boots them. I honestly think Thror and the battle heroimms should do a lot more booting of villagers, but at the same time make it easier for them to get back in, so they can actually get the point and redeem themselves rather than just delete delete.

You don't think the perks outweigh the benefits, that's fine. Some people do, other people like the challenge or the nature of the cabal. Maybe some people don't care about being the biggest bad ass on the block, they just like playing and the cabal appeals to them and don't mind that they get ganged and killed and all that.

  

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HOT Locked Topic(AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated by De... [View all] , Death_Angel, Sun 05-Jun-11 10:04 AM
Reply Very well done, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 26-May-11 02:42 PM, #117
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., HammerSong, 26-May-11 11:21 PM, #107
Reply There are instances when sportsmanship clearly contradi..., Shapa, 27-May-11 06:05 AM, #109
Reply RE: There are instances when sportsmanship clearly cont..., HammerSong, 27-May-11 07:58 AM, #110
     Reply One more example of that deception based roleplay., Shapa, 27-May-11 10:25 AM, #111
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Stunna, 27-May-11 11:48 AM, #112
Reply Therans rejoice!, Chulun (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:34 PM, #93
Reply I really like the player of Flaaayin, Tsunami, 25-May-11 02:41 PM, #79
Reply A caveat, MoetEtChandon, 25-May-11 04:09 PM, #83
     Reply RE: A caveat, Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 04:35 PM, #84
          Reply I suck at not posting I guess., Artificial, 25-May-11 04:59 PM, #85
          Reply I apologize then., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 05:05 PM, #86
               Reply Sorry, Nevaelle (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:07 PM, #91
                    Reply FEH!, Norington (Anonymous), 26-May-11 07:23 AM, #97
          Reply Yeah, I don't pretend to know the answer myself, MoetEtChandon, 25-May-11 05:15 PM, #87
          Reply For what it's worth, Keller (Anonymous), 25-May-11 06:14 PM, #88
          Reply This post made me laugh., Allysia (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:27 PM, #92
          Reply RE: A caveat, HammerSong, 28-May-11 09:20 AM, #113
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Aliathius (Anonymous), 25-May-11 07:52 AM, #32
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Drasdan (Anonymous), 25-May-11 06:50 AM, #27
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:24 AM, #38
Reply Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 24-May-11 11:26 PM, #17
Reply You were awesome., Tac, 24-May-11 11:48 PM, #18
Reply great spin, Artificial, 24-May-11 11:49 PM, #19
Reply We get it., Anliltuel (Anonymous), 25-May-11 06:35 AM, #26
Reply Hes got another 20+ crying at Dios about Flaaayin too, Oldril, 25-May-11 08:32 AM, #35
     Reply Last one, no vitriol, Artificial, 25-May-11 12:34 PM, #69
     Reply Every class can maledict, Oldril, 25-May-11 12:36 PM, #70
          Reply Not for the role I was playing. nt, Artificial, 25-May-11 12:39 PM, #71
               Reply Fair enough, Oldril, 25-May-11 01:15 PM, #74
                    Reply I can agree with that.nt, Artificial, 25-May-11 01:18 PM, #75
     Reply Whether or not I agree with you, I think you have the w..., Batman (Anonymous), 25-May-11 06:45 PM, #89
Reply RE: great spin, Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:25 AM, #39
     Reply RE: great spin, ORB, 25-May-11 02:04 PM, #78
     Reply He's right about the post, though., DurNominator, 26-May-11 01:32 PM, #103
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Borkahd, 25-May-11 12:03 AM, #20
Reply Respect., Hralpelk (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:05 AM, #21
Reply RE: Respect., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:33 AM, #42
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Rhone (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:32 AM, #22
Reply Hah! According to this you think I'm a skilled player! ..., Sarto (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:39 AM, #23
Reply RE: Hah! According to this you think I'm a skilled play..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:35 AM, #43
Reply Man, did I hate you with passion!, Murphy, 25-May-11 02:28 AM, #24
Reply Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few things, Abernyte, 25-May-11 03:36 AM, #25
Reply RE: Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few th..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:31 AM, #41
     Reply As I said, I have no hate for you or the character, Abernyte, 26-May-11 03:25 AM, #96
     Reply RE: Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few th..., Graatch, 26-May-11 11:26 AM, #98
          Reply This attitude is why the village gets owned, Oldril, 26-May-11 11:39 AM, #99
          Reply May be so, but thems the rules, Tsunami, 26-May-11 12:05 PM, #100
          Reply Villagers own people all the time., lasentia, 26-May-11 01:03 PM #102
          Reply RE: This attitude is why the village gets owned, Graatch, 26-May-11 07:01 PM, #105
          Reply RE: Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few th..., Isildur, 26-May-11 12:59 PM, #101
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Bajula, 25-May-11 07:19 AM, #28
Reply Wow, Zeikal, 04-Jun-11 02:05 PM, #114
     Reply RE: Wow, Bajula, 05-Jun-11 05:21 AM, #115
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Kariya (Anonymous), 25-May-11 07:26 AM, #29
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:37 AM, #44
     Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Kariya (Anonymous), 25-May-11 11:18 AM, #58
Reply Good spin but..., ORB, 25-May-11 07:39 AM, #30
Reply RE: Good spin but..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:44 AM, #45
Reply sad to see the one of the only 2 villagers worthy of a ..., Smoberti (Anonymous), 25-May-11 07:47 AM, #31
Reply RE: sad to see the one of the only 2 villagers worthy o..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:53 AM, #46
Reply No big hate, Nevaelle (Anonymous), 25-May-11 07:58 AM, #33
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 25-May-11 08:14 AM, #34
Reply You will be greatly missed Drillmaster., Olum (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:20 AM, #36
Reply It's always fun having characters like this around..., Nnaeshuk, 25-May-11 09:20 AM, #37
Reply From many perspectives..., Twist, 25-May-11 09:26 AM, #40
Reply RE: From many perspectives..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:14 AM, #47
Reply Yeah I should quantify..., Twist, 25-May-11 10:49 AM, #54
     Reply One more thing :), TMNS, 25-May-11 11:33 AM, #60
     Reply RE: Yeah I should quantify..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 11:58 AM, #63
          Reply Oh and one other thing to keep in mind..., Twist, 25-May-11 12:13 PM, #68
Reply I agree with most of this. Just one thing..., TMNS, 25-May-11 10:33 AM, #51
Reply Roleplaying vs Sportsmanship, Nevaelle (Anonymous), 25-May-11 02:01 PM, #77
Reply No. You need to grow up, Bavorlian (Anonymous), 25-May-11 03:46 PM, #81
     Reply Not always, exactly for the reason you mentioned yourse..., MoetEtChandon, 25-May-11 03:58 PM, #82
Reply As an aged-deathed drillmaster on the pillar, Hyshrawr (Anonymous), 27-May-11 03:31 AM, #108
Reply For Flaaayin. My favorite moment of us., TMNS, 25-May-11 10:22 AM, #49
Reply And right after that..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:10 PM, #66
     Reply Yeah it was like 250 gold lol., TMNS, 26-May-11 10:04 PM, #106
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Volker (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:45 AM, #52
Reply Think he may have been talking about Volkov!, TMNS, 25-May-11 11:36 AM, #62
Reply Great Character, Hopelessdwarf, 25-May-11 10:45 AM, #53
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Sivyh (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:57 AM, #55
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:06 PM, #64
     Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Aelozzosot (Anonymous), 25-May-11 01:28 PM, #76
Reply You sure could fubar groups and individuals., Quixotic, 25-May-11 10:59 AM, #56
Reply See under Sivyh post above n/t, Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:06 PM, #65
Reply Don't mind the haters. Good char. nt, Marcus_, 25-May-11 11:30 AM, #59
Reply Still, that's exactly what I thought about the characte..., MoetEtChandon, 25-May-11 11:41 AM, #61
Reply Awesome, Sikkak (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:40 PM, #72
Reply RE: Awesome, Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 12:57 PM, #73
Reply My most deadly enemy, Bavorlian (Anonymous), 25-May-11 03:19 PM, #80
Reply I found you incredibly frustrating, Oringus (Anonymous), 25-May-11 09:20 PM, #90
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Gryshilniar, 26-May-11 12:22 AM, #94
Reply RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance..., Ghurn (Anonymous), 26-May-11 01:33 AM, #95
Reply I actually liked Flaaayin..., Irelia, 26-May-11 06:14 PM, #104
Reply Great char!, Oldril, 24-May-11 09:29 PM, #15
Reply NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!, Tesline, 24-May-11 09:17 PM, #14
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Zun (Anonymous), 24-May-11 08:49 PM, #13
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Volker (Anonymous), 24-May-11 08:47 PM, #12
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Murphy, 24-May-11 09:35 PM, #67
Reply I gotta be honest, it was a pain, but, Sarto (Anonymous), 24-May-11 08:46 PM, #11
Reply Flaaayin was the worst character I ever interacted with..., ibuki, 24-May-11 07:44 PM, #8
Reply RE: Flaaayin was the worst character I ever interacted ..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:18 AM, #48
Reply Whew, about time., Aelozzosot (Anonymous), 24-May-11 07:41 PM, #7
Reply I always said time was the only thing that would kill y..., Allysia (Anonymous), 24-May-11 07:37 PM, #6
Reply RE: I always said time was the only thing that would ki..., Flaaayin (Anonymous), 25-May-11 10:27 AM, #50
     Reply RE: I always said time was the only thing that would ki..., Allysia (Anonymous), 25-May-11 11:15 AM, #57
Reply It was an honor playing alongside you., Homard, 24-May-11 07:35 PM, #5
Reply "feared" is sort of an awkward word to use., Artificial, 24-May-11 08:04 PM, #9
     Reply Ok that made me laugh...n/t, Lightmage, 24-May-11 08:13 PM, #10
     Reply Nice analogy. nt, Stunna, 24-May-11 11:03 PM, #16
     Reply Dude, you fear the racoon and his leet squirrel friends..., wikataw, 05-Jun-11 09:24 AM, #116
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Zorg (Anonymous), 24-May-11 06:05 PM, #3
Reply Rantings of a mage, witness (Anonymous), 24-May-11 06:31 PM, #4
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b..., Woe be Battle n/t (Anonymous), 24-May-11 05:28 PM, #2
Reply Just a superb job., TMNS, 24-May-11 05:22 PM, #1
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