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ordasenThu 22-Jun-06 03:36 PM
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#48969, "RE: Longest Goodbye in History"


          

Don't worry chief, I don't take honest discussion and debate personal. I reserved myself that half will hate what I have to say and think I'm trash for it, while the other half will praise me. *shrug* Everyone is entitled to their opinion and in truth the ultimate goal of my original post isn't to bash anything in paticular, but to post what is. If people take offense to the truth (or at least percieved truth by one person) then so be it. I hope the one thing that may come out of this is what I said is looked over and realized that it IS a concern out there by many people. And perhaps CF will grow stronger and realize the issues and become fun again.

I am going to respond to some people, and some I'm going to just let them say their peace and be done with it. I have no desire to truly start a flame or argument over things.

You've always been that way, and honestly, man, that's always been part of the problem. Sometimes you made up your mind without knowing the whole story, and then it never changed.

It might seem that way, however how can someone make the 'right' decision about something if they are never given the whole story. You can only go by what you are given. If a wrong judgement was made, I can live with that so long as it was told why. But I called it as best I could with what was given.

That's not true; the words just weren't public.

Ok, I will give you that as I know I wasnt given privy to such things. Thats cool. However the issue becomes those who did make such mistakes were never really hindered by their actions. They continued to raise through the ranks or maintained that which they already achieved. Look at it from this angle. You see someone make X,Y,Z mistake and report it. You never see any side affect or action done, what do you think that does to the moral of others who watched it happened? Not saying I am correct in this, just that as you pointed out..there are diffrent views.

On at least one of those cases, we chose to back you, and we lost other staff because of it, either in dramatic fashion like this or because they just stopped playing. I always wondered if we made the right choice. I spoke for what I thought was right at the time and if there was fallout, that was just the way it had to be.

And I thank you, however I would rather hope you chose to back the person who was right in the matter. Not who you thought would have been the better Imm. That person could have easily been better I will fully admit. However in a case as such, you chose as the rules dictate.

Can I be hard headed and have a bias view of someone? Sure, just like everyone else. However at an early point I was pulled aside and told that I really should give people a chance to redeem themselves to which I honestly did. As to the eariler comment, you didn't see the whole story. I would interact and allow the person to have a clean slate. Does this mean I'm all buddy buddy? No. HOwever you can ask someone like Iunna. I was willing to give her a second chance and prove herself (along with a few other Imms that returned). And honestly she proved a lot of maturity in what she did. I give props to people like that.

However, thank you for your thoughtful post. Good luck in your endevors.

  

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HOT TopicLongest Goodbye in History [View all] , ordasen, Fri 23-Jun-06 07:18 AM
Reply RE: You have my respect for posting a very honest farew..., Kristof, 05-Jul-06 05:04 PM, #60
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Niazuruzain (Guest), 04-Jul-06 03:35 AM, #59
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Khasotholas, 27-Jun-06 06:19 AM, #58
Reply Dude. This sucks., Marcus_, 26-Jun-06 01:26 PM, #57
Reply Tough Shoes to Fill, Kastellyn, 26-Jun-06 11:53 AM, #55
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Kolun, 24-Jun-06 12:35 PM, #53
Reply By Ordasen's Pointy Teeth!, Ysaloerye, 24-Jun-06 10:59 AM, #52
Reply Re re re re re re, Aarn, 23-Jun-06 04:34 PM, #51
Reply my 2 cents., Moridin, 23-Jun-06 03:01 PM, #50
Reply Intronan, Scrimbul, 23-Jun-06 01:45 AM, #45
Reply This certainly clears up a lot of things., DC (Guest), 22-Jun-06 09:37 PM, #39
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Eshval, 22-Jun-06 07:58 PM, #34
Reply Just wanted to defend you a bit..., Ulzammon (Guest), 22-Jun-06 08:20 PM, #37
Reply Cosign this response nt, Beladorizid, 22-Jun-06 09:50 PM, #41
Reply For what its worth., DC (Guest), 22-Jun-06 09:43 PM, #40
Reply Two prong reply here:, Cytherea, 22-Jun-06 11:21 PM, #42
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, ordasen, 22-Jun-06 11:46 PM, #43
     Reply Thanks for your input. nt, Eshval, 22-Jun-06 11:56 PM, #44
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Crysseara, 22-Jun-06 07:35 PM, #33
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, dangeroom (Guest), 22-Jun-06 08:14 PM, #35
Reply Hmm, I'm going to try what we in the field call a "refr..., Wilhath, 22-Jun-06 07:06 PM, #32
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, vegalicous (Guest), 22-Jun-06 06:36 PM, #31
Reply Well, Grurk Muouk, 22-Jun-06 05:42 PM, #
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Liriel (Guest), 22-Jun-06 05:10 PM, #27
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, terinth, 24-Jun-06 03:39 PM, #54
Reply Curious, Kragathian (Guest), 22-Jun-06 04:08 PM, #20
Reply also... if you have no intent of reply then just let me..., Krag (Guest), 23-Jun-06 02:01 AM, #46
     Reply If you want a responce..., ordasen, 23-Jun-06 08:38 AM, #48
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Lyristeon, 22-Jun-06 03:26 PM, #17
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, ordasen, 22-Jun-06 03:50 PM, #19
     Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 04:16 PM, #21
     Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Lyristeon, 22-Jun-06 04:29 PM, #22
     Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Amaranthe, 22-Jun-06 04:57 PM, #23
          Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, ordasen, 22-Jun-06 05:02 PM, #25
               Reply After reading a lot of posts..., Minyar1 (Guest), 23-Jun-06 01:45 PM, #49
Reply everybody's gotta go sometime..., shokai, 22-Jun-06 03:15 PM, #16
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Qaledus, 22-Jun-06 02:06 PM, #15
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 01:31 PM, #14
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, ordasen, 22-Jun-06 03:36 PM #18
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Rusenlan (Guest), 22-Jun-06 01:28 PM, #13
Reply Re: Farewell:, Valguarnera, 22-Jun-06 01:16 PM, #12
Reply RE: Re: Farewell:, Enbuergo1 (Guest), 22-Jun-06 04:56 PM, #24
     Reply Ding, ordasen, 22-Jun-06 05:03 PM, #26
          Reply I guess it amounts to:, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 05:15 PM, #28
          Reply I'm not so sure... txt, Larcat, 22-Jun-06 05:40 PM, #29
               Reply RE: I'm not so sure... txt, Marcus_, 26-Jun-06 01:11 PM, #56
          Reply You sure made the game work for us mortals though pal, eternal laxer (Guest), 22-Jun-06 05:42 PM, #30
               Reply RE: You sure made the game work for us mortals though p..., Shrooms (Guest), 22-Jun-06 09:12 PM, #38
                    Reply For what it's worth:, Valguarnera, 23-Jun-06 07:21 AM, #47
Reply Take care., Grysh (Guest), 22-Jun-06 01:14 PM, #11
Reply RE: Longest Goodbye in History, Amaranthe, 22-Jun-06 12:58 PM, #10
Reply Oh..email if anyone wants contact, ordasen, 22-Jun-06 12:57 PM, #9
Reply You never forget your first, Theerkla, 22-Jun-06 12:52 PM, #8
Reply A shame, Lerimos (Guest), 22-Jun-06 12:50 PM, #7
Reply :( txt, Nightwiggler (Guest), 22-Jun-06 12:45 PM, #6
Reply Well this sucks ballz!!, BattleScout (Guest), 22-Jun-06 12:45 PM, #5
Reply Take care, Lightmaged (Guest), 22-Jun-06 12:43 PM, #4
Reply Question for you., Lightmaged (Guest), 22-Jun-06 08:15 PM, #36
Reply Nooo!, Livion (Guest), 22-Jun-06 12:28 PM, #3
Reply Thanks., Nivek1, 22-Jun-06 12:13 PM, #2
Reply Farewell, Cenatar_, 22-Jun-06 12:12 PM, #1
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