>"Aemelius: You really came off like a poor roleplaying number
>cruncher. I mean, threatening to tell the Imms on me because I
>was heckling you? *boggle* Then turning on quiet, as an
>inducting goodie Leader? *double boggle*"
>
>I had enormous respect for you, particularly in the early
>years of our tangling. You and I shared the same sphere and
>often - in the first half of our interactions - we would
>discuss that to some extent, you trying to make me turn to the
>dark side, etc. Unfortunately you were on the short end of
>the stick when it came to our fights (a maran storm warrior
>has a lot of advantages over a drow necro, it's just a bad
>matchup for you) and so I think after you kept dying you got
>more and more upset. That's when I began losing respect for
>you, at least insofar as your roleplay. It's clear from your
>post above that you don't like full looting as a player. I
>think you let your ooc person slip into your role here and
>because of your personal ooc anger at being full looted often
>by me, you changed your trash talking from real rp to just the
>one liner "teach me how to full loot." It was obviously an
>ooc influenced comment, and one I think was born of
>frustration. That was particularly disappointing because you
>were one of the only evils who would stand up and fight, who
>would use interesting tactics, and who had fun and interesting
>things to say before and after dying/fighting. You didn't log
>off, you stuck around through very hard times. I had and have
>great respect for that. But once you went from your real rp
>to the one liners about learning to full loot, it left a sour
>taste.

I don't think you understood Ulzoth's character. He tried to instigate other people. To hurt, anger, fluster, confuse, incite hatred and rage, and hopefully break them. It wasn't a player thing. It was a character thing. I actually felt really bad when someone told me, 'You know assholes like you make a guy wanna rage delete, thanks for ruining my night. Have a good night.'

Ulzoth tried this a number of different ways with Aemelius. Tried to comment on your seemingly over-eagerness to kill evil and how you must like it, must like spilling blood like Ulzoth, and various things like that for a while, like you mention. The idea was to take something that may or may not be true, emphasis/exaggerate it, and make you feel like a hypocrite or moron or the same as Ulzoth or worse than Ulzoth or something like that. For most of it, you'd reply with seemingly canned, lackluster responses that left little room for pressing it. That is, until I commented on the full looting thing. I forget what you said, but it was clear it bothered Aemelius. So I said, "Ah ha!" and kept pushing the topic. I was trying to leave a sour taste in your character's mouth. The whole point was to get under your skin, so you'd know how evil Ulzoth was. Then you threatened to go OOC. That blew my mind. I was speechless. Here I was thinking, "At last my character is making progress with this guy" and then you pulled that stunt. Very poor showing on your part, in this player's opinion.



>And I never threatened to talk to the imms about your heckling
>during the first 150 hours of our interactions (and scores of
>fights). It was only when you would not stop with the changed
>ooc looting spam.

It wasn't OOC. Few things to think about:
- Dark elves are weak. Ulzoth was even weaker, only had a 17 strength. Couldn't carry much. Had to often take into consideration how heavy something was when deciding to wear it or not. Couldn't carry many spare weapons because of it. Often was running around with only 15-20 pounds of spare weight. Ulzoth couldn't loot much himself, even though he would have loved to stuff his bags full, like you.
- Storm giants are strong. The simple fact that you could loot so much of my equipment so easily IS something that would be appealing to a weak drow. He was envious.
- Robbing corpses was something Ulzoth enjoyed. It is even mentioned in his role.
- The comments bothered Aemelius. That made it even more desirable to heckle about it.

Imagine the irony of a dirty, evil dark-elf necromancer begging a big, strong, leader of the Good Guys to teach him the finer points of robbing graves and corpses. That's what made most of Ulzoth's taunting so fun: I often used that same kind of irony. It is only OOC as far as we try to bring some semblance of good and evil and their characteristics from OOC to IC. Yes, as a player, I do think full looting is beneath good-aligned characters. Apparently you do too to some degree, or else you would have shrugged it off like you did all of Ulzoth's other taunts instead of taking it personal.


>
>As for turning on quiet, there is nothing wrong with it, be
>you a level 3 nobody or a maran leader. It's a question of
>how long and why and who else is around, and all the other
>factors you can think of. Sorry if you didn't like it, but so
>be it.

If you say so...


>Good luck in your next character.

Thanks, you too.