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23864, RE: Also consider
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I felt like it was fine. But then, I was kind of off doing my own thing.

I like to be scientific about this stuff, so here are "hours at induction" and "hours at maran" stats for all the maran PBFs since Daichyl, who inducted Mizfara. If they never made maran then the second number in parentheses is their hours at deletion:

Hayim: 40, 129
Corticas: 38, (69)
Gralbin: 23, 76
Enrai: 56, 101
Ilvakihj: 14, 119
Illunas: 6, 109
Oraimus: 38, (104)
Kenric: 24, (73)
Catast: 20, (58)
Iaru: 51, (107)
Ilbjorga: 28, (88)
Tanith: 22, 84
Jaisel: 51, 115
Iltanthal: 44, 149
Llondolis: 43, 141
Kernagor: 11, 90
Vyadesh: 33, (94)
Mizfara: 106, 170
Cyruil: 34, 98
Erendinia: 37, 108
Quiltell: 24, 86
Kayella: 43, 94
Jeqo: 111, (152)
Ilirenen: 45, 85
Hiajist: 30, 129
Acvilar: 28, 132
Narclarn: 81, (155)
Angaarn: 64, 235
Laernoch: 28, (145)
Vyborny: 21, (92)
Tondumalanas: 24, 111
Daichyl: 53, 107

Now, with regards to induction, we have no idea when these people sent their notes or actually started trying to get inducted. Mizfara, for instance, waited a long time to do this. But I'll give you stats anyway:

HOURS AT INDUCTION:
Min: 6 hours (Illunas)
Median: 35.5 hours
Max: 111 hours (Jeqo)

The only reason Jeqo took that long is that, in my opinion, he was not cut out to be a Maran. I think most people (other than Jeqo) will agree with me on that. The character with the next highest hours at induction? Mizfara.

TIME SPENT AS A SQUIRE BEFORE MAKING MARAN:
Min: 40 hours (Ilirenen)
Median: 71 hours
Max: 171 (Angaarn)

Interestingly, Ilirenen (Warren) also got on some peoples' nerves. And yet he still made maran super-quick. Angaarn was well-liked and well role-played, but it seemed like he died every five minutes. Angaarn is also an outlier; the four highest totals after him are all around 105 hours.

Basically this tells me the following: If you've been a squire longer than ~110 hours then you can start to think you're doing something wrong. If you haven't been a squire for at least that long then it's probably wrong to ascribe any meaning to it. Witness the fact that Iltanthal, Acvilar and Ilvakihj all spent ~105 hours as squires, and they were all eventually put into leadership positions.

TIME SPENT AS A SQUIRE WITHOUT MAKING MARAN BEFORE DELETING:
Min: 31 (Corticas)
Median: 60
Max: 117 (Laernoch)

As I recall, Laernoch was like Angaarn in that he died every five minutes. The next highest after him was Narclarn at 74 hours. This suggests to me that people just aren't sticking around long enough after being inducted.


Interestingly, here are the squire times for characters that eventually made leader, i.e. they were "doing something right" and generally looked upon favorably by cabal leadership:

Enrai: 45
Ilvakihj: 105
Iltanthal: 105
Llondolis: 98
Mizfara: 64
Cyruil: 64
Acvilar: 104
Daichyl: 54

So 50% of those spent about 100 hours as a squire, including Twist, who theoretically knows what the hell he's doing RP wise. Also witness the difference between Java's two characters, Llondolis and Enrai. Was Enrai that much better of a character? Probably not.