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1409, Why poisoners can be deadly, Part III
Posted by Quix_lz on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM

<65%hp 100%m 48%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 9 AM)> e
On the Southeast Bridge
You are standing on a high arching bridge leading into Voralian City. The
massive Eastern Gate of Hope lies just to the west of you, and beyond that
you see a large statue and several small triangular fountains. The bridge
itself is obviously ancient. It is made of white stone and skillfully
crafted, though it shows signs of centuries of weathering and use. Parts
of the bridge are stained a darker soot color, though they appear to have
been heavily scrubbed. Orum's Field lies to the east.


A pair of sturdy steel legplates have been discarded here.
( 2) A fine steel morning star has been left here.
( 2) A sturdy steel breastplate has been left here.
An enameled shield has been left here on the ground.

<65%hp 100%m 48%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 9 AM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra On the Southeast Bridge
Levi The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light
(PK) Eorik The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light

<65%hp 100%m 48%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 9 AM)> e
Bramblefield Road
The road curves here through the little village of Orum's Field, a farming
community with little to offer those that are passing through to Voralian
City or heading out of the city. To the west the road widens to meet the
bridge to the city, bounding high over a glittering river. To the south sits
an old, weathered barn. To the north, a dirt path leads along the river's
edge.


A sign points west to Voralian City.

<65%hp 100%m 47%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 9 AM)> e
Bramblefield Road
The road curves here through the little village of Orum's Field, a farming
community named for the nearby grasslands with little to offer those that
are passing through to Voralian City or heading out of the city. A quaint
tavern sits to the north, a sign bearing a crude painting of a tree stump
hanging out front. To the south an auction block sits in a field of low cut
grass.



<65%hp 100%m 47%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 9 AM)> e
Bramblefield Road
The road curves here through the little village of Orum's Field, a farming
community with little to offer those that are passing through to Voralian
City or heading out of the city. To the north a small stables sits beside a
roadside bar. To the east a row of poplar trees obscures your view of the
farmers' market. The road winds south through the outskirts of the village,
toward the grasslands that named it, and west towards the looming white walls
of Voralian City.


(Ghost) Harren the human is here.
(WANTED) <<< Ognast >>> the fire giant is here..

<65%hp 100%m 47%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 9 AM)> black og
You hit Ognast in the back of the head with a small black sack filled with heavy gem dust.

<67%hp 100%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> l og
dua dagger
A monstrous figure stands before you at about 13 feet in height.
His bright red skin seems to glow at you look up at the places
his massive armor doesnt cover. He grips two weapons of some
sort in his giant hands, and taps them together counting time.
This immense giant seems to be a mass of pure muscle and power
the closer you inspect him. He grins in you direction and
mutters a few curses under his breath. His pitch black eyes
move slowly from side to side scanning the area for any threat
then puts his weapons in his sheaths and moves onward.
Ognast, a male fire giant, has some small but disgusting cuts.

Ognast is using:
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn around neck> a silver necklace with a blue dragon pendant
<worn around neck> a silver necklace with a blue dragon pendant
<worn on body> a plain leather tunic
<worn on head> a fine leather hat
<worn on legs> a pair of fine leather leggings
<worn on feet> a pair of tough leather moccasins
<worn on hands> some studded leather work gloves
<worn on arms> some armguards with a red dragon imprint
<worn about body> (Glowing) a shaman's robe
<worn about waist> a wide bronze belt
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<mainhand wielded> an axe with a blade of opal
<offhand wielded> a double-headed spiked hammer

You peek at the inventory:
( 2) a chain of three keys
a skin from the snow leopard
a raft
(Glowing) the shaman's mace
(Humming) a cruel battle axe
a silver shield with a red dragon crest
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
(Glowing) an expertly balanced practice sword
a battered copper pot
a shoddy haversack
an academy seal

<67%hp 100%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You stop using a small black sack filled with heavy gem dust.
You dual wield the dagger of Yog-Sothoth.
The dagger of Yog-Sothoth feels like a part of you!

<67%hp 89%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> bindl ognast
You grab Ognast's legs and begin to nimbly wrap rope around his ankles.

<67%hp 89%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)>
You continue to methodically tie up Ognast's legs.

<67%hp 89%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)>
You cinch the bindings and pull the knot tightly.

<67%hp 89%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)>
Harren tells you 'your a piece sir'

<67%hp 89%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> greaseweapon hog
You either do not have that object or they aren't here.

<67%hp 89%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> greaseweapon og
You carefully apply grease to the hilt of an axe with a blade of opal.

<67%hp 82%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> hide
sneak
whe
l og
dua dagger
You attempt to hide.

<67%hp 82%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> You attempt to move silently.

<67%hp 82%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> hide
sneak
People near you:
(PK) Migra Bramblefield Road
Harren Bramblefield Road
(PK) Ognast Bramblefield Road

<67%hp 82%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> A monstrous figure stands before you at about 13 feet in height.
His bright red skin seems to glow at you look up at the places
his massive armor doesnt cover. He grips two weapons of some
sort in his giant hands, and taps them together counting time.
This immense giant seems to be a mass of pure muscle and power
the closer you inspect him. He grins in you direction and
mutters a few curses under his breath. His pitch black eyes
move slowly from side to side scanning the area for any threat
then puts his weapons in his sheaths and moves onward.
Ognast, a male fire giant, has some small but disgusting cuts.
Ognast has his legs bound.

Ognast is using:
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn around neck> a silver necklace with a blue dragon pendant
<worn around neck> a silver necklace with a blue dragon pendant
<worn on body> a plain leather tunic
<worn on head> a fine leather hat
<worn on legs> a pair of fine leather leggings
<worn on feet> a pair of tough leather moccasins
<worn on hands> some studded leather work gloves
<worn on arms> some armguards with a red dragon imprint
<worn about body> (Glowing) a shaman's robe
<worn about waist> a wide bronze belt
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<mainhand wielded> an axe with a blade of opal
<offhand wielded> a double-headed spiked hammer

You peek at the inventory:
( 2) a chain of three keys
a skin from the snow leopard
a raft
(Glowing) the shaman's mace
(Humming) a cruel battle axe
a silver shield with a red dragon crest
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
(Glowing) an expertly balanced practice sword
a battered copper pot
a shoddy haversack
an academy seal

<67%hp 82%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You stop using the dagger of Yog-Sothoth.
You dual wield a leaf-bladed dagger.
A leaf-bladed dagger feels like a part of you!

<67%hp 91%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> whe
You attempt to hide.

<67%hp 91%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> You attempt to move silently.

<67%hp 91%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)> People near you:
(PK) Migra Bramblefield Road
Harren Bramblefield Road
(PK) Ognast Bramblefield Road

<67%hp 91%m 53%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 10 AM)>

Autosaving.

<69%hp 93%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> dua dagger
You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You stop using a leaf-bladed dagger.
You dual wield the dagger of Yog-Sothoth.
The dagger of Yog-Sothoth feels like a part of you!

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)>
Harren tells you 'I'm but a singer sir...'

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> You attempt to move silently.

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra Bramblefield Road
Harren Bramblefield Road
(PK) Ognast Bramblefield Road

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> l
Bramblefield Road
The road curves here through the little village of Orum's Field, a farming
community with little to offer those that are passing through to Voralian
City or heading out of the city. To the north a small stables sits beside a
roadside bar. To the east a row of poplar trees obscures your view of the
farmers' market. The road winds south through the outskirts of the village,
toward the grasslands that named it, and west towards the looming white walls
of Voralian City.


(Ghost) Harren the human is here.
(Bound) (WANTED) Ognast the fire giant is sleeping here.

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> backstab og
You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You trample around loudly again.
SNEAK!
Your backstab *** DEMOLISHES *** Ognast!
Ognast yells 'Die, Migra, you backstabbing scum!'
Ognast is covered with bleeding wounds.

<69%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - fighting - 11 AM)>
Your slash MUTILATES Ognast!
Your pierce maims Ognast!
Ognast's slice EVISCERATES you!
An axe with a blade of opal slips from Ognast's grasp and he drops it!
You parry Ognast's pierce.
Ognast is gushing blood.

<58%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - fighting - 11 AM)> trip

Circling around you Ognast launches himself at you from your blind side!
Ognast's bash injures you.
Ognast is gushing blood.

<55%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - fighting - 11 AM)>
Your slash maims Ognast!
Your slash MUTILATES Ognast!
Ognast suddenly clutches his head and staggers about in pain as the neurological poison on a jeweled broadsword takes hold.
You parry Ognast's punch.
Ognast's punch misses you.
Ognast is writhing in agony.

<55%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - fighting - 11 AM)> You run right past Ognast, kicking his legs out as you go!
Your trip scratches Ognast.
Your slash EVISCERATES Ognast!
Ognast parries your pierce.
You parry Ognast's punch.
Ognast's pierce MUTILATES you!
Ognast is convulsing on the ground.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - fighting - 11 AM)>
Your slash MUTILATES Ognast!
Ognast is DEAD!!
Ognast's leg is sliced from his dead body.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> get all.coins
get all.coins corpse
You see no coins here for you to take.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> You get a gold coin from the corpse of Ognast.
You get 17 silver coins from the corpse of Ognast.
You get 28 copper coins from the corpse of Ognast.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> get potion corpse
You see nothing like that in the corpse.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> stand
You are already standing.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> whe
You attempt to move silently.

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> People near you:
(PK) Migra Bramblefield Road
Harren Bramblefield Road

<46%hp 83%m 60%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> w
Bramblefield Road
The road curves here through the little village of Orum's Field, a farming
community named for the nearby grasslands with little to offer those that
are passing through to Voralian City or heading out of the city. A quaint
tavern sits to the north, a sign bearing a crude painting of a tree stump
hanging out front. To the south an auction block sits in a field of low cut
grass.



<46%hp 83%m 59%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> w
Bramblefield Road
The road curves here through the little village of Orum's Field, a farming
community with little to offer those that are passing through to Voralian
City or heading out of the city. To the west the road widens to meet the
bridge to the city, bounding high over a glittering river. To the south sits
an old, weathered barn. To the north, a dirt path leads along the river's
edge.


A sign points west to Voralian City.

<46%hp 83%m 59%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> w
On the Southeast Bridge
You are standing on a high arching bridge leading into Voralian City. The
massive Eastern Gate of Hope lies just to the west of you, and beyond that
you see a large statue and several small triangular fountains. The bridge
itself is obviously ancient. It is made of white stone and skillfully
crafted, though it shows signs of centuries of weathering and use. Parts
of the bridge are stained a darker soot color, though they appear to have
been heavily scrubbed. Orum's Field lies to the east.


A pair of sturdy steel legplates have been discarded here.
( 2) A fine steel morning star has been left here.
( 2) A sturdy steel breastplate has been left here.
An enameled shield has been left here on the ground.

<46%hp 83%m 59%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 11 AM)> w
Eastern Gate of Hope
You are standing beneath a massive stone gate leading into Voralian City.
The gates themselves appear ornamental, made of finely crafted steel bars
with thin veins of gold spiraling up each one. The top is adorned with
delicate filigree and set with the Holy Symbol of Voralian. As you glance
up, however, you spot an incredibly thick iron portcullis recessed into the
stone of the gatehouse. Apparently, everything about these gates isn't
ornamental. The Square of the Unbreakable Blade lies to the west, while a
high arching bridge leads east out of the city.



<49%hp 85%m 65%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> w
Square of the Unbreakable Blade
You are standing at a large intersection of two of the great avenues in
the city. A statue stands proudly in the center of the square, dressed
in flowing robes with his hands folded neatly before him over the hilt
of a massive two-handed sword. The white paving bricks are laid out so
that they seem to radiate from the central statue. Small, triangular-
shaped fountains stand in each of the four corners, with small shrubs
planted around them. The white stone buildings that you can see from
here appear to be residential in nature, though they look similar to
the larger shops and inns that you've seen. A huge gatehouse rises up
to the east, with major avenues extending to the north, south and west.


A statue of a stern warrior stands among a triad of marble fountains.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)>
The cathedral bells chime twelve times, calling the devout to highsun prayer.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra Square of the Unbreakable Blade
Levi The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light
(PK) Eorik The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> reply Ognast dead.
You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You tell Harren 'Ognast dead.'

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> You attempt to move silently.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra Square of the Unbreakable Blade
Levi The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light
(PK) Eorik The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> reply He is the meat.
You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You tell Harren 'He is the meat.'

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> You attempt to move silently.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra Square of the Unbreakable Blade
Levi The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light
(PK) Eorik The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> t eorik Done.
You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You tell Eorik 'Done.'

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> You attempt to move silently.

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra Square of the Unbreakable Blade
Levi The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light
(PK) Eorik The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> eq
You are using:
<worn on finger> a tarnished silver ring
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn around neck> (Glowing) an oval sapphire pendant with a silver chain
<worn around neck> a living Boa Constrictor
<worn on body> torso from the snow worm
<worn on head> a circlet of dark metal
<worn on face> a bone mask
<worn on legs> red-gold dragon leggings
<worn on feet> a pair of emerald-scaled hide boots
<worn on hands> midnight dragon gauntlets
<worn on arms> a pair of armguards from the snow worm
<worn about body> a cloak made from the pelt of a displacer beast
<worn about waist> a studded belt with a sterling silver buckle
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<mainhand wielded> a jeweled broadsword
<offhand wielded> (Glowing) the dagger of Yog-Sothoth

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> worth
You have 2 gold, 61 silver, and 397 copper, which is worth 3617 copper.
You have 145426 experience and need 11474 more experience to gain a rank. (-19.52% progress)

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)>
Harren tells you 'what was I then sir..'

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> who
<17 H-Elf Thi> Pysar the Rogue
<18 H-Drw Asn> Galan the Empi
<25 Human Nec> (PK) Khazvhak Ak'Zaahn the Apprentice Animator
<31 H-Drw Asn> Ialer the Ippon Seinage, Blood Servant
<29 Elf War> (PK) Zandor the Combatant
< 5 Cloud War> Dax the Cadet
<36 Dwarf War> Pioche the Victorious Champion
<10 Felar Asn> Tollrik the 2nd Black
<26 Human Asn> (PK) Yipsao the Student of Kamae, Shadow Dweller
<30 Fire A-P> Thanoth the Knight of Legion
< 8 Min War> Dhaath the Bruiser
<51 Elf Pal> Cyruil Azar'uilrah the Priest of the Archon, Marshall of the Fortress
<13 Human Dru> Kjolar the Nomad, Seeker of Purpose
<47 Arial Inv> Elorit the Elemental Master, Magistrate of Galadon
<49 D-Elf War> (WANTED) Zikaroz the Disciple of Ancient Ways, Hunted by Battle
< 7 Arial Asn> Kabutar the 2nd Brown
< 9 W-Elf Bar> Ellorian the Chanter
<51 Dwarf Pal> Koolchi Yarl`Mora the Champion of the Virtues, Provincial Magistrate
<51 Lich Nec> Satebos the Lich Lord
<30 Human Shf> (PK) Rhulel the Lesser Changeling
<51 Fire War> (WANTED) Igbah the Beast in the Night, Chancellor of Eternal Night
<34 Fire War> Krikar the Warrior of the Shield, Sheathed Blade
<26 Cloud War> (PK) Burgentuf the Vanguard
<51 Duerg A-P> (WANTED) Waris the Fist of Darkness, Advisor to the Chancellor
*28 Human Thi* (PK) Migra the Guilded
<23 Human Bar> Harren the Master Rhymer
<20 Fire A-P> Ognast the Anti-Paladin
<51 Svirf War> Fendril Rockbottom the Vision of Law, Provost Magistrate
<39 H-Elf Thi> Levi the Lord of the Underworld, Magistrate of Voralian City
<51 Felar Asn> Mizfara ben-Ashkari the Judge, Jury, and Executioner, Captain of the Brigade
<30 Felar Asn> Thalujar the Ogoshi
<26 Human Pal> (PK) Eorik the Disciple of Fortitude
<37 D-Elf A-P> Laraiyin Aon'Ad the LightSlayer
<27 Storm Sha> (PK) Eostri the Seeker



Players found: 34

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> whe
People near you:
(PK) Migra Square of the Unbreakable Blade
Levi The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light
(PK) Eorik The Main Altar of the Cathedral of the Holy Light

<49%hp 85%m 64%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 12 PM)> reply In the way. You were not my target.
You step out of the shadows.
Hide
You tell Harren 'In the way. You were not my target.'

<51%hp 87%m 71%mv 11474tnl (civilized - standing - 1 PM)> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.
Eorik tells you 'You are capable, I do not know what to make of you.'

*** Eorik logged out without leaving Voralian City ***
1425, You realize...
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
...in all these logs you're showing maybe 1 poison skill if that? In this log of being a "poisoner", you use more binder skills than any poisons and we see one round of neurological on a dead target.

You harassed the mid-ranks with a thief, a dual-spec binder (which is a lot better/effective) and a poisoner.

It still doesn't address any issues with the class, especially after your "prime" of picking on young 20s with a near-30 human thief.

1435, You win. ST
Posted by Quix_LZ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
However, to be fair I had decent gear and used

backstab, trip, bind legs (with mixed success),
knockout poison (along with blackjack),
Grease weapon,
and Neurotoxin

and engineered a situation allowing me to take out a group of three that easily could have perma-lagged my character.

Migra never purchased his poisons (Outlander applicant), but instead concocted poisons from the huge assortment of poison ingredients that can easily be found lying around on the ground. I deleted Migra only because leveling solo as a thief absolutely stunk.

Poisoners are hampered more by the plenitude of poison-resistant mobs and one's creativity than by the cost of poisons or their effectiveness in pk. I'd play another poisoner in a heartbeat.