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AncientNewbieFri 29-Oct-10 05:16 PM
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#36057, "Learning rates and luck"


          

I'm aware this topic gets discussed a lot (I promise I've tried searching) but I feel like I've played enough (albeit on and off) over the years to notice some apparent difference in learning rates from one character to another.

I know the RNG is still king when it comes to this, but I just can't get over the feeling the given the same int, the same morale, and an all around similar situation, that learning rates from one character to the next are not the same. I know that due to the RNG most characters have their ups and downs with learning rates, but I could swear that characters that appear to start off learning poorly, continue learning poorly for their duration.

The only two conclusions I can draw is that either 1) I'm getting paranoid as I get older or 2) The luck stat is the unknown variable in this equation and it is responsible for more than I've always given it credit for.

Anyone care to confirm, deny, or generally shed any light on this?

Thanks.

  

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Reply Um., Stunna, 27-Oct-10 04:43 PM, #5
Reply RE: Learning rates and luck, Valguarnera, 27-Oct-10 07:07 AM, #2
Reply Yeah, I remember that thread. Very interesting topic., TheDude, 27-Oct-10 01:59 PM, #4
Reply RE: Yeah, I remember that thread. Very interesting topi..., Valguarnera, 27-Oct-10 05:01 PM, #6
     Reply Sure was., TheDude, 27-Oct-10 05:52 PM, #7
Reply Aren't you forgetting something?, Torak, 29-Oct-10 01:34 PM, #8
Reply True, but, incognito, 06-Nov-10 04:38 PM, #9
Reply RE: Learning rates and luck, Zulghinlour, 26-Oct-10 09:26 PM, #1
     Reply Do not lie! I was figuring the luck of my characters ba..., Shapa, 27-Oct-10 10:43 AM, #3

StunnaWed 27-Oct-10 04:43 PM
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#36070, "Um."
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It's not your characters luck, my friend. It is YOUR luck.

Wow.

  

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ValguarneraWed 27-Oct-10 07:07 AM
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#36060, "RE: Learning rates and luck"
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'help skill improvement' is comprehensive. The skill learning function is generally much simpler and shorter than people imagine it to be.

Your memory and instincts (mine as well... general observation of psychology) are a terrible guide to estimating probability. Search the forums on 'hot hand' for a semi-famous example of this that basketball announcers and fans still get wrong routinely. (For baseball fans, the equivalent myth is 'clutch'. For football fans, it's punting on fourth-and-short from midfield.)

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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TheDudeWed 27-Oct-10 01:57 PM
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#36064, "Yeah, I remember that thread. Very interesting topic."
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Edited on Wed 27-Oct-10 01:59 PM

          

In most instances I do believe that "clutch" does not apply in baseball.

However, it certainly does apply to certain players like Bengie Molina. I'm not a Rangers fan, but you just watch some of the World Series, Mr. Valg. Senior Molina WILL have at least one clutch hit which wins them the ballgame. I would bet almost any amount of money on it.

Valdimir Guerrerro, on the other hand, will find a way to blow an at bat in some key situation which may lose them a ballgame (or two). He is so very "not-clutch".

  

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ValguarneraWed 27-Oct-10 05:01 PM
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#36072, "RE: Yeah, I remember that thread. Very interesting topi..."
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Senior Molina WILL have at least one clutch hit which wins them the ballgame.

I hope that was an intentional nicknaming.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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TheDudeWed 27-Oct-10 05:52 PM
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#36073, "Sure was."
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He is also the oldest of the 3 Molina brothers, so yeah .

  

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TorakFri 29-Oct-10 05:16 PM
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#36102, "Aren't you forgetting something?"
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Morale?

  

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incognitoSat 06-Nov-10 04:38 PM
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#36232, "True, but"
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I still worked out that parry was a two dimensional table based on what I observed, not from any statistical analysis. Some conclusions based on feel will be accurate even if others are misplaced.

  

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ZulghinlourTue 26-Oct-10 09:26 PM
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#36058, "RE: Learning rates and luck"
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>The only two conclusions I can draw is that either 1) I'm
>getting paranoid as I get older or

Yes.

>2) The luck stat is the
>unknown variable in this equation and it is responsible for
>more than I've always given it credit for.

Luck is not factored into skill learning at all.

>Anyone care to confirm, deny, or generally shed any light on
>this?

The only stat that affects your chance to improve a skill/spell/supp/song is intelligence.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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ShapaWed 27-Oct-10 10:43 AM
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#36062, "Do not lie! I was figuring the luck of my characters ba..."
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And you know what ... it actually worked!

Yeah human imagination is very funny thing. I'm sure some people still do not believe IMMS about luck stat

  

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