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Marcus_Mon 18-Aug-03 05:33 PM
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#2014, "Lore improvement"


          

I read not long ago that lore has been made easier to improve. My current char has lored about 600 times with no improvements, according to a grep from my log file. Am I just unlucky?

  

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Reply As much as I hate to say it, Rade, 22-Aug-03 01:58 PM, #9
Reply RE: Lore improvement, Vladamir, 20-Aug-03 05:12 PM, #8
Reply I think lore goes up faster on higher level items- - no..., ehefala, 19-Aug-03 03:34 AM, #5
Reply Don't think in terms of attempts, think in terms of hou..., Balrahd, 19-Aug-03 12:08 AM, #4
Reply I know the feeling., Zepachu, 18-Aug-03 05:55 PM, #1
     Reply RE: I know the feeling., Quislet, 18-Aug-03 08:13 PM, #2
          Reply 17 int and rack up another 60 attempts with no improvem..., Zepachu, 18-Aug-03 09:39 PM, #3
               Reply Lore is VERY easy to master with zero effort on your pa..., Laearrist, 19-Aug-03 05:48 PM, #6
                    Reply Uh, yeah., Zepachu, 20-Aug-03 09:22 AM, #7

RadeFri 22-Aug-03 01:58 PM
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#2063, "As much as I hate to say it"
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If you're spamming... try *not* spamming it. It seems to go up faster.

Using it whenever your mana is at 100% is a great way to get it mastered. Use triggers at your own risk.

  

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VladamirWed 20-Aug-03 05:12 PM
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#2050, "RE: Lore improvement"
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I played Esmi. 17 int storm giant. Had lore mastered well before hero. I just used it some in my spare time. No big thing at all really.

  

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ehefalaTue 19-Aug-03 03:34 AM
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#2026, "I think lore goes up faster on higher level items- - no..."
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notext

  

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BalrahdTue 19-Aug-03 12:08 AM
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#2024, "Don't think in terms of attempts, think in terms of hou..."
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My last character, a felar warrior (17 int), perfected lore in 60-70 game hours, constantly spamming lore whenever I had free mana (with a few exceptions where I forgot to for a short time).

I don't think that is very extreme, but then I tend to play the same character for upwards of 200+ hours.

Actually, every one of my more recent (3rd age) non-spellcasting characters with lore has mastered it in about that same time. However, I vaguely recall one of my 2nd age arial thieves taking longer to master lore than 60-70 hours, which would lead me to believe that mastering lore has been made easier in the last five years were I able to trust my tired memory (I don't).

Anyway, think in terms of hours, not attempts. Lore isn't your ordinary skill.. its MUCH easier and more consistent to practice.

  

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ZepachuMon 18-Aug-03 05:55 PM
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#2015, "I know the feeling."
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I know the feeling. Exactly 547 lores, not one improvement. Yet Zulghinlour somewhere on these forums said that "lore is working fine"

  

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QuisletMon 18-Aug-03 08:13 PM
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#2020, "RE: I know the feeling."
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And the intelligence of the characters in question? If it's under 20 but over 15, I'd still expect a couple of improvements in that many attempts, but ... as far as I understand the learning curves by current intelligence, it could happen, it's just a good sized chunk of bad luck.

Before lore was made easier, I'd expect no more than 2 improvements at most in 600 attempts made with any character whose intelligence is less than 20.

If your int is 23 or higher, something sounds very wrong. Even extremely bad luck shouldn't give a streak that bad with that high an int.

  

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ZepachuMon 18-Aug-03 09:39 PM
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#2022, "17 int and rack up another 60 attempts with no improvem..."
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Bah.

  

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LaearristTue 19-Aug-03 05:48 PM
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#2038, "Lore is VERY easy to master with zero effort on your pa..."
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I recently had a cloud giant (that's what 16 int?) that only lived to about 150 hours and he had lore up to 97%, without ever spamming. It's real simple... never let your mana reach 100%. At some time before your mana reaches 100%, say 90% or 60-70 mana away (depending on regen rates) lore the first item in your inventory. Voila! workable lore without effort (if you can't figure out how to do it without work, well I'll put that part on Dio's).

  

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ZepachuWed 20-Aug-03 09:22 AM
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#2043, "Uh, yeah."
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There have been times where I've just been sitting around, chatting on AIM or whatever, and it's been a slow CF day, but still I stay in the game in case anything happens, or I'm regenning, or, whatever... and I'll sit there spamming lore, letting some mana regen, and repeat...

I'm up to over 700 lores to no avail.

  

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