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Batman (inactive user)Thu 25-Sep-08 08:59 PM
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#1851, "Poll/Questions/Survey regarding traffic tickets/citations."


          

For my job, I'm interested in a few things regarding these questions. If you wouldn't mind putting your opinions, reactions, hypothetical decisions, mood, etc. Be as descriptive or vague as you want, but be readable so I can add these to our customer opinion debate, it might get some things changed. Say what you'd want to happen, who's fault you think it is, should there be a price reduction over the fault, blah blah blah etc.

1)An officer pulls you over and gives you a ticket/citation, highliting all the information required for you to pay it on the back/front and writing the cost on it for you.
When you head to the closest Clerk office to pay the citation/ticket, the Clerk informs you the price specified by the officer is incorrect.
(I.E. Officer specified $75.00, you are told to pay $103.50)
Do you pay it? Argue? Take it to court? What? How would you feel as a customer? Would you be angry?(Just some ideas for answers)


2) You get a citation/ticket in 2000-2005(Any extended period time before now).

A. You forget the ticket entirely. Out of nowhere, in 2008, you receive a letter stating you have a month to pay the ticket and late fees or your license will be suspended.
B. You pay the ticket and elect an option(driving school, partial payment plan, TAP), but never complete the option and out of nowhere, in 2008, you receive a letter stating you have a month to pay the ticket and late fees or your license will be suspended.
(Is it the Clerk's fault for not dealing with it until now? Is the state to blame for the sudden need to pay it?)(If the ticket is entirely paid, but you only forgot to bring in a Certificate of Completion from Driving School or something of the like, should your license still be suspended for it, even though no cash is involved?)

Thanks ahead for answering, if you do.
Really, you could state any opinion about Citations/Tickets and I'd be able to use it, but these specific scenarios are the ones being looked at more.

  

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Batman (inactive user)Fri 10-Oct-08 08:47 AM
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#1860, "Replied mentioning the current policy on the qhcf OT bo..."
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YEH

  

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EskelianTue 30-Sep-08 05:57 PM
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#1858, "RE: Poll/Questions/Survey regarding traffic tickets/cit..."
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>For my job, I'm interested in a few things regarding these
>questions. If you wouldn't mind putting your opinions,
>reactions, hypothetical decisions, mood, etc. Be as
>descriptive or vague as you want, but be readable so I can add
>these to our customer opinion debate, it might get some things
>changed. Say what you'd want to happen, who's fault you think
>it is, should there be a price reduction over the fault, blah
>blah blah etc.
>
>1)An officer pulls you over and gives you a ticket/citation,
>highliting all the information required for you to pay it on
>the back/front and writing the cost on it for you.
>When you head to the closest Clerk office to pay the
>citation/ticket, the Clerk informs you the price specified by
>the officer is incorrect.
> I.E. Officer specified $75.00, you are told to pay $103.50)
>Do you pay it? Argue? Take it to court? What? How would you
>feel as a customer? Would you be angry?(Just some ideas for
>answers)

I would pay - because arguing with the government is masochism. I'm not going to risk getting ####ed in the ass over $30. Was probably an honest mistake on the police officer's part anyway.

>2) You get a citation/ticket in 2000-2005(Any extended period
>time before now).
>
>A. You forget the ticket entirely. Out of nowhere, in 2008,
>you receive a letter stating you have a month to pay the
>ticket and late fees or your license will be suspended.
>B. You pay the ticket and elect an option(driving school,
>partial payment plan, TAP), but never complete the option and
>out of nowhere, in 2008, you receive a letter stating you have
>a month to pay the ticket and late fees or your license will
>be suspended.
> Is it the Clerk's fault for not dealing with it until now? Is
>the state to blame for the sudden need to pay it?)(If the
>ticket is entirely paid, but you only forgot to bring in a
>Certificate of Completion from Driving School or something of
>the like, should your license still be suspended for it, even
>though no cash is involved?)

This is how the government works. They find out everything - it just might not happen for several years or so. This is a combination of beuracracy, incompetance and incompetance that leads to it taking so long. I would pay it (because I should've known better) and the only thing that irritates me is the ridiculous penalties for non-compliance (suspending license for several months or suspending registration for several months or whatever).

>Thanks ahead for answering, if you do.
>Really, you could state any opinion about Citations/Tickets
>and I'd be able to use it, but these specific scenarios are
>the ones being looked at more.

  

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BoonSat 27-Sep-08 03:23 PM
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#1857, "RE: Poll/Questions/Survey regarding traffic tickets/cit..."
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1) Maybe the ticket amount was wrong, or maybe the cop's report/brain was wrong. You don't know which, so assume whichever favors the ticket-payer. In most cases, the entire ticket should probably be thrown out.

2) It's the violator's fault for not doing what they were supposed to do. Sending them timely notification is mercy enough.

Furthermore, I think Seantryn Modan must be destroyed.

  

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ElerosseFri 26-Sep-08 08:25 AM
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#1852, "RE: Poll/Questions/Survey regarding traffic tickets/cit..."
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>1)An officer pulls you over and gives you a ticket/citation,
>highliting all the information required for you to pay it on
>the back/front and writing the cost on it for you.
>When you head to the closest Clerk office to pay the
>citation/ticket, the Clerk informs you the price specified by
>the officer is incorrect.
> I.E. Officer specified $75.00, you are told to pay $103.50)
>Do you pay it? Argue? Take it to court? What? How would you
>feel as a customer? Would you be angry?(Just some ideas for
>answers)
>

I would be upset and I would like clarification why the amount is different then I was told, but regardless of what I was told I would pay it, unless the clerk appears to be in error (maybe they misread the ticket or something). Generally IMO the added effort of following through with a dispute of this nature is not worth it given that the added cost is not that much.

>2) You get a citation/ticket in 2000-2005(Any extended period
>time before now).
>
>A. You forget the ticket entirely. Out of nowhere, in 2008,
>you receive a letter stating you have a month to pay the
>ticket and late fees or your license will be suspended.
>B. You pay the ticket and elect an option(driving school,
>partial payment plan, TAP), but never complete the option and
>out of nowhere, in 2008, you receive a letter stating you have
>a month to pay the ticket and late fees or your license will
>be suspended.
> Is it the Clerk's fault for not dealing with it until now? Is
>the state to blame for the sudden need to pay it?)(If the
>ticket is entirely paid, but you only forgot to bring in a
>Certificate of Completion from Driving School or something of
>the like, should your license still be suspended for it, even
>though no cash is involved?)
>

A) Well it would be my fault for forgetting to pay. If the amount of the late fees was substantial I would expect to be allowed to either negotiate them down or make payments to settle the outstanding bill without further penalty.

B) I think it is fair to still have the license suspended, even if the fee has been paid. But, I also think if it is possible to now show that the second portion has been completed that, that would satisfy the requirement. I don't think late fees or other punitive fees are fair in this situation as there is no cash involved and no financial loss for the state. Ultimately, what I would think should happen in this scenario is that the state informs the person they must show completion of whatever option they have chosen, or if that is not possible they should redo the option and show completion before some said date or have their license suspended.

  

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