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Zulghinlour | Sat 08-Nov-08 09:58 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#1634, "Dual wield changes coming soon"
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I have changed it so you can finally dual-wield your fists if you so choose.
- You can have a weapon in you mainhand and fists as your offhand, or fists as your mainhand and a weapon in your offhand.
- The dualwield command no longer requires you to have a weapon in your mainhand to use it.
- Weapons will not automatically shift from your offhand to your mainhand in situations where they used to.
- Fixing parry to work with all of these changes. So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Help files,
Calion,
11-Nov-08 12:57 PM, #10
RE: Help files,
Zulghinlour,
11-Nov-08 12:58 PM, #13
RE: Help files,
DurNominator,
11-Nov-08 08:39 PM, #14
Grapple?,
Torak,
10-Nov-08 10:01 PM, #6
I changed nothing regarding grapple (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
10-Nov-08 10:02 PM, #9
Assasssin,
poisonmaster,
09-Nov-08 08:44 PM, #4
RE: Assasssin,
Zulghinlour,
09-Nov-08 08:45 PM, #5
Not that I'm complaining...,
Tac,
10-Nov-08 10:01 PM, #7
Contemplated briefly, and I'm cool with it (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
10-Nov-08 10:02 PM, #8
How about...,
GinGa,
11-Nov-08 12:55 PM, #11
Cause I don't think it needs to be "made up for" (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
11-Nov-08 12:55 PM, #12
Felar,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
08-Nov-08 11:29 PM, #2
RE: Felar,
Zulghinlour,
08-Nov-08 11:30 PM, #3
Can they,
Stunna,
15-Nov-08 12:23 PM, #15
No (n/t),
Daevryn,
15-Nov-08 12:23 PM, #16
Finally,
Dwoggurd,
08-Nov-08 11:14 PM, #1
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Calion | Tue 11-Nov-08 10:13 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#1648, "Help files"
In response to Reply #0
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Are the help files up to date? For example the second chapter seems outdated in 'help dual' below. Also the 75% rule? And in the new command something like 'dual hand', or do you always automatically dual your fist when wielding a one-handed weapon (provided you have the dual wield skill)?
'DUAL WIELD' DUAL DUAL-WIELD DUALWIELD wield <weapon> or wield mainhand <weapon> dualwield <weapon> or wield offhand <weapon>
Taking the time to learn how to fight with a weapon in each hand is no easy feat. Pure magic-users are unable to dedicate themselves to this art. The ability to dual wield is affected by several things: your dexterity, your strength, and the weight of your weapons, etc. Some weapons are unable to be dual-wielded because of the nature of their use. A polearm, for example, requires the use of two hands to be used properly. You cannot wield a secondary weapon that weighs more than 75% of your primary weapon. In the cases of lighter weapons, this is not true, but will depend on the weapon you wish to use as your secondary weapon (for example, you _can_ dual wield with a whip as your primary weapon even though whips are very light).
How it should work: If you are wearing no weapons and try to wear one, it will stick it in your main weapon slot. If you are wearing one weapon and try to wear another weapon, if you don't know dual wield or if the weapon is not suitable to be dual wielded, it will try to replace your main weapon with the new weapon...otherwise it will attempt to dual wield it. If you are already wearing two weapons, if the weapon is suitable for dual wield, it will try to stick it in that slot, otherwise, it will try to stick it in your main weapon slot.
Dual wield has an affect on things like shield block, parry, dodge.
Thieves can backstab with a dagger in their dual wield slot if their main weapon is not a dagger. You need to practice the skill before you can try to dual wield weapons. Through experimentation, you will learn which weapons can go with which.
Report any problems or comments in a note to immortal.
Felar may only dual wield with their claws.
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DurNominator | Tue 11-Nov-08 02:50 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#1652, "RE: Help files"
In response to Reply #13
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How it should work: If you are wearing no weapons and try to wear one, it will stick it in your main weapon slot. If you are wearing one weapon and try to wear another weapon, if you don't know dual wield or if the weapon is not suitable to be dual wielded, it will try to replace your main weaponwith the new weapon...otherwise it will attempt to dual wield it. If you are already wearing two weapons, if the weapon is suitable for dual wield, it will try to stick it in that slot, otherwise, it will try to stick it in your main weapon slot.
Try the paragraph above. Few things:
You cannot wear weapons. IIRC dual wield doesn't replace main wield, it's just a too heavy-message.(correct me if I'm wrong here) This looks like how dual wield worked before you started revamping it.
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Torak | Mon 10-Nov-08 10:45 AM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#1644, "Grapple?"
In response to Reply #0
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I know it's rare, but wondering about thieves' grapple (not orcs).
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Zulghinlour | Mon 10-Nov-08 10:02 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
9792 posts
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#1647, "I changed nothing regarding grapple (n/t)"
In response to Reply #6
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n/t So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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poisonmaster | Sun 09-Nov-08 02:04 PM |
Member since 27th Jul 2008
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#1641, "Assasssin"
In response to Reply #0
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I reluctantly ask these questions because I don't wanna #### it up, but I'd figure I'd ask anyway.. lol
Can you now dual wield AND backfist at the same time (using hands).
Will it now check for unarmed defense if you main wield hands or do you have to have hands only. Does unarmed still work with a shield?
Can you tiger claw while dual wielding fists?
Just a few for now...
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Zulghinlour | Sun 09-Nov-08 08:45 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
9792 posts
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#1642, "RE: Assasssin"
In response to Reply #4
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>Can you now dual wield AND backfist at the same time (using >hands).
Yup.
>Will it now check for unarmed defense if you main wield hands >or do you have to have hands only. Does unarmed still work >with a shield?
I didn't change anything for unarmed defense (that I'm aware of), so however it previously worked.
>Can you tiger claw while dual wielding fists?
Unchanged. Same as before. So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Tac | Mon 10-Nov-08 07:42 PM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
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#1645, "Not that I'm complaining..."
In response to Reply #5
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But this does seem to shift the balance of assassins. Specifically, that some of the major benefits of being a felar assassin are no longer exclusive. Just saying. I'll personally take the trade off, but I wanted to make sure it was thought of.
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Zulghinlour | Mon 10-Nov-08 10:02 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#1646, "Contemplated briefly, and I'm cool with it (n/t)"
In response to Reply #7
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n/t So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Zulghinlour | Tue 11-Nov-08 12:55 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
9792 posts
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#1650, "Cause I don't think it needs to be "made up for" (n/t)"
In response to Reply #11
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n/t So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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#1638, "Felar"
In response to Reply #0
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Will this mess with felar dual-wielding their claws with two-handed weapons? Also, as they can only dual wield their claws, can they offhand a weapon and wield claws as primary?
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Zulghinlour | Sat 08-Nov-08 11:30 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#1640, "RE: Felar"
In response to Reply #2
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>Will this mess with felar dual-wielding their claws with >two-handed weapons?
No.
>Also, as they can only dual wield their >claws, can they offhand a weapon and wield claws as primary?
No. So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Daevryn | Sat 15-Nov-08 12:23 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#1656, "No (n/t)"
In response to Reply #15
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Dwoggurd | Sat 08-Nov-08 10:31 PM |
Member since 20th Jan 2004
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#1637, "Finally"
In response to Reply #0
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