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Valguarnera | Wed 19-Mar-03 05:24 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#5, "March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter)"
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I apologize for this being late. For a while, I was waiting for the forums to be unbroked. The last week, I've just been occupied with other things.
Fortunately, I have a backlog of contest ideas available, and a few are short, like this one- all submissions due by midnight, March 31.
The rules:
1) Design an object or service that could be sold somewhere on the MUD. Don't worry about where it's sold, cost, or statistics. It doesn't have to be material- for example, paying a bard for a bardsong, etc. I can't go adding things willy-nilly anyway, and we'll choose the statistics according to our usual guidelines. Focus on why people would want this service.
2) Judging will primarily be on originality. This means that an item or service which is similar to something existing either here or on another MUD is unlikely to be chosen. (No bardsong salesman.) Shokai and Arvam have agreed to help me here.
3) I'll do whatever is possible to implement one entry, and possibly more if several top-notch entries appear.
4) Think small. This is something I'll probably be taking on as a side project. If someone posts "Ooh! A ranged weapons and flying mounts shop!", I'm just not going to do that.
5) If the forums blow up again, I'll be over there sulking.
6) Current Immortals aren't eligible. You people already have plenty of ways to get your ideas in. Shoo, Nepenthe's brain! Shoo!
7) Standard disclaimer: All entries become the property of Carrion Fields. We reserve the right to fold, staple, mangle, or otherwise deform the idea to get it into a workable form, though every effort will be made to remain true to the original idea's intent.
valguarnera@carrionfields.com
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March Contest is done!,
Valguarnera,
02-Apr-03 02:59 AM, #64
The In-town-duel,
Abthalok (Guest),
31-Mar-03 04:02 PM, #62
Mage services.,
Urden,
31-Mar-03 01:44 AM, #59
Writers..,
Nightgauntish (Guest),
31-Mar-03 01:03 AM, #58
Gloves!,
Dallevianish (Guest),
30-Mar-03 03:23 PM, #54
RE: Gloves!,
ORB lives (Guest),
31-Mar-03 04:02 PM, #61
Guides.,
Boldereth,
30-Mar-03 03:27 AM, #46
Mobs for seeing hidden (the other idea I keep forgettin...,
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 02:15 AM, #40
Power level concerns.,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 02:32 AM, #44
RE: Power level concerns.,
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 01:33 PM, #49
Outside the confines of the contest. (n/t),
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 01:56 PM, #55
An idea I keep forgetting to mention: 'portfolios',
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 02:15 AM, #39
Horticulturist - or something,
Young Nastyman,
29-Mar-03 01:23 PM, #35
Impractical for technical reasons, unfortunately.,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 02:18 AM, #43
Race only items in the various cities,
Hutto,
29-Mar-03 04:06 AM, #34
RE: Race only items in the various cities,
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 02:16 AM, #37
Well then,
fleshofchaos,
26-Mar-03 08:32 PM, #31
RE: Well then,
Karel,
29-Mar-03 04:06 AM, #33
Morale boosting,
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 02:16 AM, #38
RE: Well then,
Karel,
30-Mar-03 03:23 PM, #57
Higher Level Mercenaries,
Hutto,
26-Mar-03 08:32 PM, #30
Cleaning Fairy,
RealShea,
24-Mar-03 10:21 PM, #29
RE: Cleaning Fairy,
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 02:16 AM, #36
Engraved and Carved Items - Tattoos,
Sniggle,
24-Mar-03 10:21 PM, #27
Porters,
Ululari,
23-Mar-03 08:03 AM, #25
Right, here we go.,
yimadapul,
22-Mar-03 12:37 PM, #24
Portrait Artist,
Ululari,
21-Mar-03 06:54 PM, #23
RE: Portrait Artist,
Ululari,
24-Mar-03 10:21 PM, #28
Purposeful distension,
Jake (Guest),
21-Mar-03 03:51 PM, #22
RE: Purposeful distension,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 01:42 PM, #50
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
v_vega,
21-Mar-03 02:50 AM, #21
Outside the confines of the contest.,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 01:43 PM, #51
There's no place like home.,
RealShea,
20-Mar-03 01:29 PM, #18
Smith's,
Krivohan,
20-Mar-03 12:02 PM, #17
RE: Smith's,
Astillian,
24-Mar-03 12:43 PM, #26
Bounty hunters (IMMs),
Llohuir,
20-Mar-03 05:00 AM, #16
Power level concerns.,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 01:49 PM, #53
More games,
Hutto,
20-Mar-03 03:16 AM, #15
Traveling,
Gastaad (Guest),
20-Mar-03 02:59 AM, #14
Mercenary offices for PCs.,
Spa (Guest),
20-Mar-03 02:51 AM, #13
Need clarification:,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 01:59 PM, #56
re:,
Spa (Guest),
31-Mar-03 02:07 PM, #60
huh?,
Quislet,
01-Apr-03 09:15 PM, #63
All I can say to this is....,
Spa (Guest),
02-Apr-03 12:43 PM, #65
Orb Idea 1,
ORB,
19-Mar-03 11:24 PM, #12
Transportation methods.,
Quislet,
21-Mar-03 01:54 AM, #20
I like this one,
Xandrya,
28-Mar-03 08:55 PM, #32
A smith.,
Krivohan,
19-Mar-03 10:57 PM, #11
Locksmith that makes keys,
RealShea,
19-Mar-03 05:34 PM, #10
Steeds,
Uncle Bob,
19-Mar-03 05:12 PM, #9
Far too complicated.,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 01:46 PM, #52
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
Falstaff,
19-Mar-03 04:31 PM, #8
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
Zulghinlour,
30-Mar-03 02:15 AM, #42
Suggestion for level limitation,
Falstafff (Guest),
30-Mar-03 01:33 PM, #47
Surgery,
RealShea,
19-Mar-03 02:42 PM, #7
RE: Surgery,
Quislet,
21-Mar-03 01:43 AM, #19
Pay for Concealment,
RealShea,
19-Mar-03 02:39 PM, #6
Power level concerns.,
Valguarnera,
30-Mar-03 02:34 AM, #45
Zombie Making,
RealShea,
19-Mar-03 02:31 PM, #5
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
Snarf,
19-Mar-03 02:25 PM, #4
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
Zulghinlour,
30-Mar-03 02:15 AM, #41
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
Quislet,
30-Mar-03 01:33 PM, #48
Shields and Boats,
Scorbus,
19-Mar-03 11:04 AM, #3
RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter),
Dr. Flush Tag (Guest),
19-Mar-03 09:32 AM, #2
Please think of the kittens,
Captain K (Guest),
19-Mar-03 05:45 AM, #1
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Valguarnera | Wed 02-Apr-03 02:59 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#77, "March Contest is done!"
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#74, "The In-town-duel"
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I recall fondly the days when Arbiters would referee in-town-duels. There was nothing better than beating someones ass in market square while people are cheering for you and stuff. There could be a mob in town that you could make challanges to, and he would inform the challangee and ask if he/she is willing to accept or something. Have a few options as far as dueling conditions, results, etc.
Abthalok
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Urden | Mon 31-Mar-03 01:36 AM |
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#71, "Mage services."
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How many times has a town healer saved your butt? I've lost count, personally. What's more important (and relevant to this post): How much would you pay for similar services from mage NPC's?
Would you pay 500 copper for a long-lasting invisibility or fly spell? It might seem steep, but in the right situation it could be the tactical advantage that you might need to win the battle!! Better yet, you won't have to go and gather some prep that is buried deep in some jungle at the edge of Thera--it's right there, at the tip of your fingers!
But mystical services need not be so limited. There could be a magical post office in every city (ran and sponsored by the wonderous Guild of Conjuration) where one could pay to have items sent (via the spell sending to anyone. No longer would you have to resort to the clunky note-writing system we currently have. (On a side note, this type of "courier" service could be provided in mundane forms so that magic- haters could make use of them.) Bards would, of course, get discounts. People could also pay for the Post Office to make duplicates of documents for them, for a small fee.
Anyway, the ideas go on and on, as usual. Like, no like?
P.S. Valg, I still don't know what idea(s) were accepted from the last contest. Did you keep it under-wraps on purpose, or did I miss it? Bizarro I'm helping!
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#70, "Writers.."
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Almost all cabals require a note to be send, but not always do you want to play a character that can write.
So my proposal, let there be some writers guild in some town, so if you play a fee they can write a message you say and then deliver it.
My other idea is also roleplay based..
Let us buy books with empty pages, lets say it contains 20 pages and you can write on each of them, if you fail you dont destroy the book. Just makes it unable to see the actual page you wrote on.
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#64, "Gloves!"
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How about a pair of expensive high level gloves that rot_death or something or have limited use so elves/drow/woodies can manipulate iron/mithril keys. Please?
I don't know if this idea is really relevant to your little contest, but I remember discussing it with an imm when I was stuck in el inferno, and he said to mention it. So I am.
Liberate te ex inferis!
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#73, "RE: Gloves!"
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GREAT IDEA! I never understood why elves and drow couldn't pick up iron/mithril while wearing gloves.
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Boldereth | Sun 30-Mar-03 03:24 AM |
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#56, "Guides."
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They have a bit of knowledge about certain places and areas, maybe some maps and etc. For high fees in certain places you can learn a bit thats not obvious about an area. What info they tell you or what maps they give you is up to you guys for power considerations. I think its only natural that maybe bribing a Draconian guard might let you know that Blue and Green dragons won't shatter your armor, as an example.
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Valguarnera | Sun 30-Mar-03 02:32 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#54, "Power level concerns."
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Valguarnera | Sun 30-Mar-03 01:56 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#65, "Outside the confines of the contest. (n/t)"
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Quislet | Sat 29-Mar-03 07:01 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#49, "An idea I keep forgetting to mention: 'portfolios'"
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Kind of like a publicly accessible role, each person can put up a brief description of who they are and what they're about. Or, what they want the public to think. Maybe include race and class automatically, and possibly cabal.
Not everyone would necessarily have one, and wouldn't even be listed if they didn't enter any info.
I don't think it would make much sense to be able to read this information anywhere, but instead of new rooms to read it in it could be viewed in the guild halls, and possibly cabal areas, or at least the Inn and/or Lyceum.
It would ease all the confusion of if someone publicly is for or against any particular cabal, race, individual, etc. It could also avoid the habit I've seen recently of people asking everyone they know for information about the new stranger in PK range.
I have no idea how this would stack up in coding, cpu time, or database size, but I like it anyway.
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Young Nastyman | Sat 29-Mar-03 08:13 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#45, "Horticulturist - or something"
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With the recent movement towards providing mortals with foods that have effects that cannot be gleaned from identify and the like, the horticulturist (if there's a better name use it) would be a fun addition.
He's basically a plant and fungus expert who will tell you what effects a certain plant species is known to have. The more unique the species (is it limited?) or the more powerful the effects of the plant, herb, or 'shroom the higher the price to be paid.
He may not tell you everything and he may not tell you anything, much like the browse command.
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fleshofchaos | Wed 26-Mar-03 04:43 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#39, "Well then"
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*sigh* Well then. As far as I see it, all we really need are things more suited to natural life. Things people actually do as they wait out their days in life. Yes, they go to bars and have a few drinks, meet people, buy food and clothes, etc. It kind of limits one's ability to really live in Thera when all people are doing is thinking of what to kill next. Maybe I'm the only one who comes to Thera with an idea of just hanging out and letting my character enjoy the life around him. To be able to (like I have read from the other replies) rent a hotel room for the night, have keys made, get their armor worked on, play games with their friend or challeng their enemies to a round of what ever your favorite past time is. To be able to buy a horse or get a pet zombie from the Necromancer's guild or have a ranger camo you or assassin show you a hiding place or any other idea someone might have. And if your smart enough to think to use your shield as a boat! then by golly go right ahead, you deserve to escape those rabid felar then.
Now, I'm not saying every idea you get is going to be a gem. I just think that it's those little things that we all take for granted in real life that could really make Thera an ever greater place than it already is. No, I don't really have an idea for anything, I just thought I might could affect your decicion and hope you choose something that will really enrich the game and help bring more life to it.
But, since I did reply I will give a thought on something to add... I propose we get the Galadon Coffin Shop up and running. Ever since I've been playing I've seen that poor coffin maker with nothing to do. There are so many things one could do with a coffin but I know none of my ideas are any good. So please good people of Thera, help this poor man make a living, help us think of a really good way to get that coffin shop in working order so we can all start to enjoy their many (or not so many) uses.
"Of all the things I've lost, it is my mind that I miss the most." --Ozzy Osbourne "Do not merely practice Art, but penetrate to the very heart of it. For only Art and Science elevate man to the Godhead." Ludwig Van Beethoven
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Karel | Fri 28-Mar-03 11:37 PM |
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#43, "RE: Well then"
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For the coffins...buy a coffin, carry the coffin, kill someone, put the body in the coffin and bury it. As the body is of course too heavy to actually lift up into your inventory, throw a command on it. Something like the carve command. Drop the coffin, then 'bury (corpse) coffin'. Of course you need a shovel and can't be on and rocky terrain or paved roads. Why? Maybe some people actually have respect for the dead. Maybe some people don't want any nasty liches coming along. Maybe some people want to be graverobbers. Just a thought.
Another thought, a brothel. Go drop some hard earned coin on some good old fashioned morale boosting. Of course, there should be a chance of a negative morale effect for those that can't quite perform their duties. Lag for services should be fairly minimal. If one tick is an hour, and about seven rounds or so is average per tick...say two rounds to be generous. "Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix
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Karel | Sun 30-Mar-03 02:39 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#67, "RE: Well then"
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Another way for the coffin to work. Since it's a shop for the soon to be deceased, you go there to buy a coffin for a specific person. You don't get a coffin, but the coffinmaker goes to that person and measures him/her/it for a coffin, a not so subtle hint someone is looking to kill that person. Then he returns and says the coffin will be ready when the body is.
Ex.
buy coffin bob
The coffin maker takes your coins and grabbing a small bag walks from the store.
Bob's view
A man dressed suspiciously like an undertaker strolls up to you and withdraws a long string from a small bag he carries. He slowly starts taking the measurements of your body and with a satisfied nod packs his string away and strolls off once more.
Back to shop
The coffin maker walks back into the store, placing his small bag on the counter.
"No problem. Coffin'll be ready when he is."
Maybe if that person does actually kill the target, the coffin maker drags a coffin to where he died and does something...buries it, carts it off, what not. "Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix
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Ululari | Sun 23-Mar-03 08:03 AM |
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#30, "Porters"
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Be nice if you could buy a merc who comes with his own container, and will willingly use it (automatically putting carried items into it, and automatically pulling items out of it when you ask for them).
Presumably, a porter would not assist. They might even be cowardly (flee if engaged in combat; maybe run back home if injured; maybe throwing goods on the ground when running away in panic; presumably willing to wait for you someplace safe, if asked).
Be even nicer if porter "slot" was different from merc "slot".
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yimadapul | Sat 22-Mar-03 12:37 PM |
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#29, "Right, here we go."
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As seen in a room: A worn down lump of wood lies here, weeping.
Looking at: A bit of wood about six inches long lies here, carved to the likeness of a woman kneeling, hands held over her face.
A word down statue is junk, made of wood, weight...
Right, so you hold this doll and say "Why are you crying?"
which triggers: A word down lump of wood suddenly bursts into tears, wailing in despair. Adam Soccermomiality(r)(TM)(Al) rules!
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Ululari | Fri 21-Mar-03 06:54 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#28, "Portrait Artist"
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I'd like to see a portrait artist -- pay for your picture, pose, and you get a portrait of yourself.
Posing would require a little time, and would perhaps require you picking a background and an action. If you don't pick, your action is "is standing" and your background is "here".
Basically, a portrait would be an object that has as part of its description "(yourname) is standing here." -- or maybe something more exciting, if you picked that.
Also, if you look (yourname) when you can reach the object, you should see the same thing as if you glanced at (yourname) at the time the picture was taken.
There should be a variety of different quality levels (and perhaps sizes). If you're level 1, all you should be able to buy (if you had the gold) is a simple portrait with a cheap wooden frame. At higher levels you should have more options -- glossy hardwood frame, polished silver frame, heavy golden frame, etherial iridescent frame, ...
Pictures should be of type treasure, with value based on the quality of the portrait and the current player level. Portraits of deleted players should gradually increase in value after the player has deleted. Portraits should be relatively fragile (subject to dragon damage, if nothing else).
You should be able to buy a portrait of another player, if they'll pose for the picture.
If you're really ambitious, allow for group portraits with each person in the portrait posing (presumably using some social).
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Ululari | Mon 24-Mar-03 05:39 PM |
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#35, "RE: Portrait Artist"
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It occurred to me that portraits should be devalued if the character has a lot of them. I'm worried that my idea of portrait value is already too complex, but this would be important.
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#27, "Purposeful distension"
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The opportunity to distend your PK range without the kills.
You'll have think over duration (normal, temporary, permanent), costs (coins, practices, trains) and amplitude (+1 rank, to hero, random) but there's probably the kernel of something fun in there.
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v_vega | Fri 21-Mar-03 02:50 AM |
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#26, "RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter)"
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i got two ideas: one: LIFTING make it so that flying races can lift up and fly with non-flying races, obviously they would both have to loose some most of their carried weight and i cannot imagine a arial lifting a giant and it should probably cost a good deal of movement. now the use for this as i see it is mainly non-flying ragers who would be able to get to a few places where they aren't able to get today, but other players would also benefit.
two: as i played a cook in the inn i noticed that you needed to go far away to find different kinds of ingredients for your meals, now i can see why, but as it is today i can take a bowl of fruit and do: cook bowl a bowl of steaming leak and potatoe soup. now instead of cheating with boar steaks and lambs legs make it so you can buy a whole lot of different kinds of meat, fish, vegetables and fruits in the inn´s kitchen. and on a side note make the food sold in tir talath a bit more filling.
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Valguarnera | Sun 30-Mar-03 01:43 PM |
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#61, "Outside the confines of the contest."
In response to Reply #21
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Hutto | Thu 20-Mar-03 03:16 AM |
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#20, "More games"
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1) Focus on why people would want this service.
2) Judging will primarily be on originality. This means that an item or service which is similar to something existing either here or on another MUD is unlikely to be chosen.
I love gambling, but it is solitary and cost crazy amounts of copper to play (though the prizes are very nice). I enjoyed watching people play Heroes, although never had the opportunity to play myself.
What I propose is this: the addition of a game. Or games.
I'd love a two or four person poker or Heroes style gambling game. Make it possible to play against other players. The key is, let the bets be variable. Maybe a small minimum, and allow each to raise the stakes each round, but let it feed off how much each person is betting and set a reasonable ceiling for each round of play. Don't force it to cost 2000 a game. Maybe beef up Heroes, add a bunch more Heroes in there, and use that as the basis for this game. Could make a real deck (container) with all the cards inside.
Maybe something like chess for the brainy characters. Could come up with a simple and basic, but completely new game, a CF original. DEATH TELLS YOU 'HOW DOES THE POINTY-EARED ONE MOVE AGAIN?' "Oooh, my necro just liched, you're all going to die now!'
Maybe something like bowling or horseshoes, but where you have to base your throw (maybe left to right, and power) for your size, strength, dex, weight of armor, age, weather, etc, with a nice bit of randomness thrown in for each character and a little randomness for each throw for good measure. So the more you play with your character, the better you as a player become with that character, but it will change from character to character to still keep it challenging and keep people from hacking it.
4) Think small.
Oops.
If you like these ideas, I'd be more than happy to brainstorm some more. I figure it is better to see if this is even remotely possible before putting too much time and effort fleshing these out.
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#19, "Traveling"
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How bout this
You pay a svirfnebli mob a hefty amount of copper and he will guide you through an intricate tunnel system to an area of your choosing. For example lets say this svirf is in Udgaard and you can pay him something like 10,000 copper (or perhaps make it level dependant so lowbies could use it) to lead you through this secret tunnel to Hamsah (or whatever area options are available) There would be a lag of course maybe something like half of what request is, before your svirf can gather the supplies needed for the journey. And of course it would sap a good chunk of your movement as well.
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#18, "Mercenary offices for PCs."
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In the same way you have Bounty offices where players can put a price on the head of another player in their PK range, and thus have an assassins anonymously murder the target and earn the copper for it, it might be interesting to expand the excisting mercenary guilds to include Player Characters among their ranks.
Now, this can take many forms indeed and it would open up quite a few new roleplaying possibilities imo, and mostly for the Warrior and thief classes. Should a player's role include or even focus upon it, they could go enlist themselves in a mercenary guild and offer themselves for hire to other players or maybe even cabals. They could serve as bodyguards or escorts (warriors), spies (thiefs) or soldiers or, well, whatever really. All the kind of stuff mercenaries irl do. What it would come down to is that they could announce to other players that their sword and/or skill is for hire for a price (which would be done in a similar way bounties are placed), and then they could go about their usual bussiness (ranking/pk'ing/whatever) until someone comes to the mercenary guild, reads the available info and the price of the enlisted mercenary player, and then contacts him to strike a deal and an agreement on the length, nature and duration of the service to be provided.
That someone could be anything from a lowbie mage that is looking for a high-ranking warrior to rank up through his painful levels quickly, (and of course, the higher the rank of the mercenary the more he can charge for his services), or even Cabals that can use these players to do their dirtywork for them without the enemy cabal really knowing that they were behind it, or to have the mercenary act as a spy.
Etc. The possibilities are quite numerous I think, and it shouldn't be all that hard to code. ...right?
Anyway, flame away.
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#72, "re:"
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What you said is certainly not untrue, yet remind yourself that in the same manner, the placing of a bounty on the head of another player and have an assassin murder that player for you could be done by private dealings just as easily. In the same way, the guildsystem of thieves could instead be achieved by simply having your thief forge personal IC contacts with other thieves and thus make allies.
And yet, all that doesn't take away that those concepts, such as the bounty system or the thief guild system, are actually very convenient things for all parties involved (except for the victims of them), and add much more depth and overall IC-funk to the classes they are designed for.
That is why I ended up suggesting that a more or less similar system would now be implemented for the warrior, thief, bard and maybe even anti-paladin classes - but instead of assassinations or underworld contacts this time, more something like sword-for-hire/man-at-arms/mercenary situations. In fact, as a thief you could seek to combine the guildmembership with the whole mercenary thing, creating even more diverseness and elements-of-surprise for this roleplaying class.
I'm such a supporter for this because I'm pretty darn convinced that this would greatly add to the flavor of the classes that I just mentioned above. That it's not a high priority on the list is something I can understand, but I do hope that it gets implemented someday. Just like with the thieves guildmembership and the bounty offices of assassins, no regrets will come from putting this in because it would offer so much more for the classes that it would be designed for. It would also create more strife and tensions within the warrior guild for example, because I can imagine the honorable knight-type warrior not exactly thinking very highly of those that go about hiring themselves to murder others for the sake of some copper. Etc etc etc. So much new roleplaying material that could come from it.
Hope that clarified my motives and reasons a bit better than my previous post did.
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#78, "All I can say to this is...."
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' Then again, I don't know what the thief guild membership really does for anyone. '
' I've never tried to actually post a bounty or cash one in '
All I can say to this is that you might want to go out and actually try and experiment with these things first and thus get a grasp on what they can and cannot do. Please refrain from starting to make wild and impulsive comments such as the ones in your previous post in the future.
I could certainly go into greater detail about why I think this is definately worth the pursuit and the work, but I'll just end this by saying that the roleplay stimulation in itself which this will bring would well worth the efforts already.
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Quislet | Fri 21-Mar-03 01:54 AM |
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#25, "Transportation methods."
In response to Reply #12
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Something that functionally works like a word of recall, but paid for in one city and sends you to a certain spot in another city.
From Orb's idea, this would be descriptively a ferry between Hamsah and Arkham, or any other two cities connected by water.
From Gastaad's idea, perhaps a tunnel connecting two cities. Any city might be connected to any other, depending on what makes the most sense to Valg and other Imms.
The user upside, it's a way to go straight between cities without the terrain in between being considered, and is also a non-magical transport accessible to Battleragers.
The user downside, it would likely take quite a while (similar to requesting delay), and would also probably use up half (or more) of your max movement points.
As for the game balance potential flaws: it gives a fairly quick way from place to place, and may take the character out of being fought by others, both potentially affecting PK situations. Also affecting PK would be people sitting at the arrival points to kill others.
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Xandrya | Fri 28-Mar-03 07:49 PM |
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#42, "I like this one"
In response to Reply #20
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How about a horsedrawn carriage or something? You see them sometimes on the roads. Wouldn't it be fun if you could actually use one? It would cost some gold, and would be great way to travel without using magic.
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Uncle Bob | Wed 19-Mar-03 05:12 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#14, "Steeds"
In response to Reply #0
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Stables throughout Thera would offer steeds. They could either be good for a limited amount of time, or a limited distance.
They would increase speed of travel 3 or 4 times, and increase your moves efficiency 3 or 4 times. Some limitations; they are quite expensive, and one cannot be in a group to have one, and cannot follow others or lead others while renting a steed. This prevents massive cavalry gangbangs. Which would be cool as hell to behold, but ouch.
Also, for atmosphere, would leave the occassional dropping on the road which dissolves after a day or so.
They cannot cross water, their efficiency worsens in the mountains.
Different cities might have steeds of different types: Galadon: Horses; the standard. Hamsah: Camels; not great for speed, but great for distances, especially in the dessert. Arkham: Dolphins; only usable in water. Arial City: arials (taxis) that are limited duration, but cover great distances.
Steeds would consume water/food from your inventory as well.
They crap a lot. Did I mention they should crap a lot?
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Falstaff | Wed 19-Mar-03 04:31 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#13, "RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter)"
In response to Reply #0
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A shopkeeper that would offer identification of objects. Shopkeeper would probably be some form of Gnome, just to keep in line with their inherant lore abilities. The interaction would be like the town healers now. "lore mace" instead of "heal disease".
Make the responses something akin to what you'd get with a 100% lore, told directly to the shopper so that others in the room don't hear.
The shop can even be set up more like a home. An old, tired gnomish warrior sitting in his rocking chair doing this as a side job in his retirement. As such, and as he's an expert, his services would be pricy.
As most classes have some form of lore or identify, it shouldn't throw off game balance. It would make the lives of lower level newbies easier though. "Someone told me this jewelled broadsword is good, but I'm not sure. Let's go to Gnomie the Know-it-all!"
-Falstaff
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Zulghinlour | Sun 30-Mar-03 12:58 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#52, "RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter)"
In response to Reply #8
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>A shopkeeper that would offer identification of objects. >Shopkeeper would probably be some form of Gnome, just to keep >in line with their inherant lore abilities. The interaction >would be like the town healers now. "lore mace" instead of >"heal disease".
Another idea bandied about by immortals over various periods of time. I think the biggest limitation we wanted to make was the level of the object (as in you can't just get everything identified for you, but only up to certain levels). I like, but with limitations.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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#57, "Suggestion for level limitation"
In response to Reply #42
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How about this for a level limitation at "Gnomie the Know-It-All":
Below level 11 = Can lore any weapon ranked below 11 After level 11 = Can lore any weapon with a rank lower then the character's current rank. (Like buying anything else at a store, if you're rank 16 you're not getting rank 31 info/gear/trollop's favors)
This lets characters find the information on any piece of gear they should be able to get easily from it's source.
Limitation possibility #2: Make limited items cost considerably more to identify. Gnomie's way of making sure you're worthy of the info. Say a 2x multiplier in copper price. Possibly some small discount to other Gnomes, as a professional curtesy.
Add in a qualifying question, so that you know how much the lore will run. Interaction runs something like this: ------------------------------------------------------------- Lore macethatslimited
Gnomie says, "Ahhh, now there's a weapon you don't see everyday. As this one's special, it'll run ya 2500 coppers for me to tell you about it. Interested?"
say Yes
-------------------------------------------------------------- Sound fair?
-Falstaff
P.S. Yes, I'm having fun naming the gnome. *chuckle*
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Quislet | Fri 21-Mar-03 01:43 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#24, "RE: Surgery"
In response to Reply #7
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>A sawbones mob, or hospital wing etc, that sets bones, >stitches up open gashes, or applies field dressings in a non >magical way. Painful, but effective.
However it's done (magic, non-magic, clerical, etc), it would be great to have a place to go to heal things like bleeding, broken wrists, etc. Sometimes the cause of the injury is long gone, but the injury is still there for a while. Really boring to spend 5-10 real minutes just waiting for the injuries to go away.
I'm not really sure I like the idea of a non-magic and non-clerical place of healing, but then again I'm one of the few people to intentionally never play a Battlerager.
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Valguarnera | Sun 30-Mar-03 02:34 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#55, "Power level concerns."
In response to Reply #6
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Zulghinlour | Sun 30-Mar-03 12:55 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#51, "RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter)"
In response to Reply #4
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>1) Healer/Shaman/Mage merc's that heal/cast spells for you... >Could be like a mini-portable Healer (The ones at the pits), >that charge you X amount each time you use them. Of course, >this would probably negate the reason of grouping with these >specific classes, but there you have it.
The possibilities of this scare me balance wise. I'm not saying impossible, but I am saying, not everyone can buy these guys.
>2) Alchemist shop that makes potions on demand. Just need to >go out and get the special ingredients.
Again...there has to be a limit to what can be made.
>3) A wizard's shop that could enchant weapons/armor.
Meh, I can see why, but it'd probably cost you at least an arm.
>4) A blacksmith's shop that could create custom armor/weapons.
I've wanted to do this for awhile, I just fear the people making up weapon names like I fear people making up warcries. So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Scorbus | Wed 19-Mar-03 11:04 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#8, "Shields and Boats"
In response to Reply #0
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I had the idea of making a shield that has two functions; one being a shield and the other being a boat. I can just see a little pudgy Gnome warrior getting hunted by a hoard wild Felars and not being able to fend them all off. So this poor Gnome decided to run over to the ocean and finds himself without a boat. Natural proclivity causes him to take off his shield, sets it on the water and prays that it floats. Maybe make it so only small races can use wooden shields as boats or make giants able to use large shields as boats. Either that or formulate a quest someplace to discover how to make shields more buoyant? If all else fails when a new hero-imm decides to make a Storm race hometown area …have the guards of the city hold surfboards that are shields and function as a boat.
Just an idea I wanted to use if I ever became an Immortal and had the chance to write an area, but that never happened.
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#7, "RE: March Contest: (Reply to this post to enter)"
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How about Strong Boxes? They could be sold at banks or, if you prefer, special vaults, but that'd be kind of a hassle to implement.
Regardless, they could be about the size of a "Big ole Pack Sack" Or whatever the hell that thing Griff sells is called. They could have the "no limited equipment" restriction on them, and retrieval could work just like a bank. For example:
Valguarnera goes to the bank and types 'b strongbox'. The banker gives him a strongbox, he puts in all his shiny red dragon gear, then gives it back to the banker. 4 weeks later, Valguarnera returns to the bank and wants his red dragon gear, so he types "retrieve strongbox" or whatever. He pays the banker a small fee (like, 10 copper per level maybe?), the banker gives him his strongbox and Valg gets out all his keen red dragon stuff.
So, maybe there's a one-time fee of 1,000 copper to buy a strong box and a 10 copper per-level charge each time you get it out? Or maybe that's a little steep...Heh. Anyway, that's my idea.
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#6, "Please think of the kittens"
In response to Reply #0
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Paw/hindpaw/tail gear more suitable for for felar shapeshifters!
I know, there's not a lot of demand for those, but all the gear that I've seen to exist is just hit/damroll/physical abilities, not hitpoints, mana or something a shapeshifter might more appreciate. Besides variety is always good, right?
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