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CointreauSat 04-Jan-20 09:28 AM
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#73739, "Tremblefist and Retrieving"


          

Hi all,

I'm here to create a constructive discussion around Tremblefist, his role in Cabal raids and any recommendations on what could be changed.

My personal view is that I think it's great Orcs have some way to raid and pillage, I also like that its unique from your standard inner/outer cabal format.

However I do think there is one very major challenge: Tremblefist is really just a super buff outer guardian - there is no benefit to raiding Orcs if they don't hold your item. Not only is he super buff relative to other outers, he's also a Shaman which makes him very dangerous to retrieve against even without defenders. This is especially bad for Villagers who cannot simply recall and heal plagues.

This has resulted in Orcs being given items to prevent lowbies from retrieving, whilst the heroes (who raided in the first place) can stop almost everyone else from killing Tremblefist.

RP reasons aside, I think this only hurts the cabal war dynamic. A part of managing a cabal is having a good mix of ranks to ensure you can retrieve as needed. This this means more raids, more death and more fun anyway.

My recommendations:
1. Change Tremblefist's class to something other than Shaman.
2. Make him slightly weaker. I think it's cool that he's rougher than a standard outer, but a level 30+ should be able to solo him, even if slowly.
3. Overhaul Orc raiding. Give them an inner and an outer, and an item to lose. Give them "clan powers". I've always thought it would be cool if Orcs could gain a power from each item they held. E.g. Orcs with the Head get deathblow or resist, with the Orb get protection from good and fire immunity, windwalk, etc. This could make for some crazy powerful Orcs if they took everything, but then everyone on the mud would be busting down their gates too.

Keen to hear your thoughts.

  

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HOT Locked TopicTremblefist and Retrieving [View all] , Cointreau, Sat 04-Jan-20 09:28 AM
Reply RE: Tremblefist and Retrieving, ORC (Anonymous), 02-Jan-20 08:37 PM, #22
Reply This raid mechanic is being utterly abused, flaaayin, 04-Jan-20 12:13 AM, #29
     Reply Lets also not forget, flaaayin, 04-Jan-20 12:29 AM, #30
     Reply Plague should not be a problem for an Outlander to deal..., incognito, 04-Jan-20 07:27 AM, #31
Reply In Defense of Tremblefist, Homard, 02-Jan-20 02:04 PM, #17
Reply Meh, clnt2020, 02-Jan-20 04:53 AM, #14
Reply RE: Tremblefist and Retrieving, Jormyr, 02-Jan-20 01:20 AM, #13
Reply RE: Tremblefist and Retrieving, Jarmel, 01-Jan-20 04:53 PM, #10
Reply not so constructive rambling within, robdarken_, 01-Jan-20 04:30 PM, #9
Reply I'm not keen, incognito, 01-Jan-20 10:02 AM, #2
Reply I'd bet my bottom dollar, Relio, 01-Jan-20 11:11 AM, #5
     Reply Have you seen him used, incognito, 01-Jan-20 12:51 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Have you seen him used, Java, 01-Jan-20 03:29 PM, #8
               Reply RE: Have you seen him used, incognito, 01-Jan-20 08:38 PM, #11
                    Reply Again..., Relio, 02-Jan-20 12:47 AM, #12
                         Reply I've not seen this, incognito, 02-Jan-20 06:22 AM, #15
                         Reply So, I'm hearing this a lot, robdarken_, 02-Jan-20 12:04 PM, #16
                         Reply It's probably a daily occurrence. nt, Relio, 02-Jan-20 02:15 PM, #18
                              Reply No it isn't., Ishuli, 02-Jan-20 03:36 PM, #19
                                   Reply Okay, but here's the question, Relio, 03-Jan-20 12:02 AM, #25
                                   Reply RE: Okay, but here's the question, incognito, 03-Jan-20 02:20 AM, #26
                                   Reply There is a lot of turning the blind eye here., flaaayin, 04-Jan-20 12:08 AM, #28
                         Reply You don't play Imperials much, do you., Bemused, 02-Jan-20 05:21 PM, #20
                         Reply Awwww..., Relio, 02-Jan-20 11:59 PM, #24
                              Reply It would be., robdarken_, 03-Jan-20 03:34 AM, #27
                         Reply How often 19 Imperials raid is probably never., rex spangler, 02-Jan-20 07:05 PM, #21
                              Reply Obviously there's not even 19 characters on, dude. Srsl..., Relio, 02-Jan-20 11:57 PM, #23
Reply Personally.., Lhydia, 01-Jan-20 10:01 AM, #1
     Reply Mostly agree, incognito, 01-Jan-20 10:07 AM, #3
          Reply Eh., Lhydia, 01-Jan-20 10:51 AM, #4
               Reply Good point, incognito, 01-Jan-20 12:50 PM, #6
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