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UmironMon 29-Apr-19 06:32 PM
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#72978, "RE: let someone else speak to that"


          

> but having 20 edges
>has been the norm in long-lived characters, for a long, long,
>long time.

I dunno, friend. From the first round of edge changes back as far as our records go, you have to jump up to 800+ hours for your claim (20 edges) to be true. To even pass 10 you need well over 200 hours on a hero. The only character with that many hours right now has 15.

It was possible, sure, but tended to be something one observed only on a fraction of characters as described, which is precisely why most of those changes were made in the first place.

Today, characters equivalent to those tend to have in the range of 6 - 14 depending on class and typical edge costs. Likewise, the gap between the "average hero" and the outliers at the top is, while definitely not completely closed, considerably smaller.

/me shrugs

  

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HOT Locked TopicWhat would bring you back? [View all] , Wasted, Fri 26-Apr-19 12:13 PM
Reply Thread's been derailed., JohnEveryMan, 01-May-19 09:32 AM, #119
Reply Agreed. Thread locked. (nt), Umiron, 01-May-19 03:05 PM, #130
Reply Time and a mentality shift, Destuvius, 01-May-19 03:52 AM, #107
Reply If time permitted, players., lasentia, 30-Apr-19 12:44 PM, #96
Reply Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges anym..., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 01:03 PM, #97
     Reply RE: Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges ..., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 01:35 PM, #98
     Reply That's part of the issue, Kstatida, 30-Apr-19 03:46 PM, #101
          Reply RE: That's part of the issue, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:01 PM, #104
               Reply There weren't any videos. You made that up., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 10:45 PM, #106
     Reply RE: Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges ..., lasentia, 30-Apr-19 02:08 PM, #100
          Reply I'm bringing it up because it's important., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 10:51 PM, #105
               Reply What did I miss?, Lhydia, 01-May-19 05:49 AM, #108
               Reply I'd answer but you are clearly just trolling., Murphy, 01-May-19 07:21 AM, #110
                    Reply That is objectively wrong, Destuvius, 01-May-19 07:37 AM, #111
                         Reply Do I need to bring up the incident, Murphy, 01-May-19 07:44 AM, #112
                              Reply And yet you are here, Destuvius, 01-May-19 07:57 AM, #113
                              Reply I'm not the only Russian here, Murphy, 01-May-19 08:49 AM, #117
                                   Reply Might be the words "cheat ring" that get the scrutiny., Jormyr, 01-May-19 11:36 AM, #125
                                        Reply I'm not buying it., Murphy, 01-May-19 12:31 PM, #126
                              Reply Are you kidding?, JohnEveryMan, 01-May-19 08:04 AM, #114
                                   Reply See my other post, Murphy, 01-May-19 08:28 AM, #116
                                        Reply I don't think you know what "concrete proof" means, JohnEveryMan, 01-May-19 09:02 AM, #118
                                             Reply Concrete examples, not concrete proof., Murphy, 01-May-19 09:53 AM, #120
               Reply RE: I'm bringing it up because it's important., lasentia, 01-May-19 07:20 AM, #109
                    Reply Concrete examples of wrong punishment., Murphy, 01-May-19 08:22 AM, #115
                         Reply These are pretty poor examples..., Destuvius, 01-May-19 09:58 AM, #121
                         Reply RE: These are pretty poor examples..., lasentia, 01-May-19 10:18 AM, #123
                         Reply Matrik is from Texas., Murphy, 01-May-19 10:30 AM, #124
                         Reply RE: These are pretty poor examples..., Murphy, 01-May-19 12:47 PM, #127
                              Reply RE: These are pretty poor examples..., lasentia, 01-May-19 01:51 PM, #128
                                   Reply Hmm., Murphy, 01-May-19 02:21 PM, #129
                         Reply Wasnt trolling., Lhydia, 01-May-19 10:01 AM, #122
Reply An ounce of free time, a hint of an idea, and I'll be b..., Ignolmeer, 30-Apr-19 12:10 AM, #85
Reply kov is back, Dallevian, 30-Apr-19 02:02 PM, #99
Reply VOTE, ARegularPlayer (Anonymous), 29-Apr-19 05:27 PM, #81
Reply I'd be all for group skill learn bonus, similar to xp., SPN, 28-Apr-19 08:30 PM, #77
Reply Try some seasons, Artificial, 28-Apr-19 04:28 PM, #75
Reply RE: Try some seasons, Ishuli, 28-Apr-19 04:50 PM, #76
Reply Asking "But, is it fun?" missing for quite some time..., KoeKhaos, 28-Apr-19 01:53 PM, #73
Reply Fun!, Ishuli, 28-Apr-19 02:16 PM, #74
     Reply "Losing is fun" doesn't work in multiplayer., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 04:50 AM, #88
          Reply Winning isn't fun without the risk of losing, especiall..., JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 06:12 AM, #89
               Reply Indeed, but that's beside the point, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 06:56 AM, #90
                    Reply That's better context., JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 07:06 AM, #91
Reply Events., Cointreau, 28-Apr-19 06:40 AM, #70
Reply Agree (n/t), JohnEveryMan, 28-Apr-19 07:49 AM, #71
Reply Edges, Hell, ST, Kstatida, 28-Apr-19 02:16 AM, #64
Reply Pretty sure, incognito, 28-Apr-19 02:54 AM, #67
Reply Who gives a damn about what you're pretty sure of?, Kstatida, 30-Apr-19 08:04 AM, #92
Reply You got the order wrong, Bemused, 28-Apr-19 05:10 AM, #69
Reply I play what little I can, but, Calion, 27-Apr-19 02:30 PM, #61
Reply RE: I play what little I can, but, Ishuli, 27-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #62
     Reply Please tell me the new race is Tiefling!, Blkdrgn, 30-Apr-19 04:32 PM, #102
          Reply RE: Please tell me the new race is Tiefling!, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:52 PM, #103
Reply Apologize for invasion of privacy. Unban Boris., Murphy, 27-Apr-19 11:58 AM, #56
Reply RE: Apologize for invasion of privacy. Unban Boris., Ishuli, 27-Apr-19 02:07 PM, #58
     Reply Noone needs it, Kstatida, 28-Apr-19 02:17 AM, #65
     Reply I'm not interested in making demands., Murphy, 28-Apr-19 03:28 AM, #68
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, TheBluestThumb, 27-Apr-19 06:32 AM, #45
Reply Ish has been extremely plain and open, JohnEveryMan, 27-Apr-19 07:11 AM, #46
Reply RE: Ish has been extremely plain and open, Saagkri, 27-Apr-19 08:22 AM, #49
Reply Yeah #### you Ishuli for trying. , Lhydia, 27-Apr-19 07:34 AM, #47
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Ishuli, 27-Apr-19 02:07 PM, #57
Reply Minor changes won't bring a major resurgence, Artificial, 27-Apr-19 03:48 AM, #44
Reply RE: Minor changes won't bring a major resurgence, Ishuli, 27-Apr-19 08:34 AM, #51
     Reply Yeah there’s a lot of overly sensitive sissies i..., TJHuron, 27-Apr-19 09:04 AM, #52
     Reply Maybe it could be a question on creation?, Artificial, 27-Apr-19 02:17 PM, #59
          Reply RE: Maybe it could be a question on creation?, Ishuli, 27-Apr-19 02:26 PM, #60
               Reply RE: Maybe it could be a question on creation?, robdarken_, 27-Apr-19 04:22 PM, #63
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Patrisaurus, 26-Apr-19 09:46 PM, #36
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Jarmel, 27-Apr-19 02:47 AM, #43
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Ishuli, 27-Apr-19 08:19 AM, #50
     Reply The bottom line is..., Saagkri, 27-Apr-19 09:19 AM, #53
     Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Patrisaurus, 28-Apr-19 10:55 AM, #72
Reply Here's something more constructive..., Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 07:39 PM, #17
Reply RE: Here's something more constructive..., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 07:46 PM, #18
Reply Wow, Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 08:00 PM, #21
     Reply RE: Wow, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 08:33 PM, #25
     Reply Of course, Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 09:36 PM, #34
     Reply I agree 100% on the berserker rule. It does not make se..., TJHuron, 27-Apr-19 09:21 AM, #54
Reply Constructive criticism:, robdarken_, 26-Apr-19 08:55 PM, #29
Reply Heh, Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 10:11 PM, #38
Reply If half of these were implemented I’d come back...., Homard, 26-Apr-19 09:34 PM, #33
Reply The IMMs asking this question., Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 07:26 PM, #13
Reply RE: The IMMs asking this question., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 07:34 PM, #14
     Reply I know you're doing a lot, Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 07:48 PM, #19
     Reply RE: I know you're doing a lot, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 07:55 PM, #20
          Reply It's not easier., Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 08:06 PM, #22
               Reply RE: It's not easier., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 08:20 PM, #23
                    Reply Another class, Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 09:40 PM, #35
     Reply There's a fine phrase commonly attributed to Einstein, Kstatida, 30-Apr-19 08:07 AM, #93
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Jarmel, 26-Apr-19 06:17 PM, #12
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 07:35 PM, #15
     Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Jarmel, 26-Apr-19 08:55 PM, #28
     Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 09:13 PM, #31
          Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Jarmel, 26-Apr-19 09:29 PM, #32
     Reply Edge points, incognito, 29-Apr-19 05:59 AM, #78
          Reply RE: Edge points, Ishuli, 29-Apr-19 12:24 PM, #79
               Reply RE: let someone else speak to that, Murphy, 29-Apr-19 01:53 PM, #80
               Reply RE: let someone else speak to that, Umiron, 29-Apr-19 06:32 PM #82
                    Reply Exactly. From the first round of edge changes., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 03:59 AM, #86
                         Reply Sorry, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 09:56 AM, #94
                              Reply #### off., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 12:28 PM, #95
               Reply Let me explain, incognito, 29-Apr-19 06:38 PM, #83
               Reply But wait, it gets better., Murphy, 30-Apr-19 03:50 AM, #87
               Reply That may well be the case, but..., Homard, 29-Apr-19 06:41 PM, #84
Reply Being 11 again., JohnEveryMan, 26-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
Reply Time travel incoming., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 07:36 PM, #16
Reply More players, robdarken_, 26-Apr-19 02:58 PM, #7
Reply Yup!, Wasted, 26-Apr-19 06:09 PM, #11
Reply RE: What would bring you back?, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 02:41 PM, #6
Reply What language does CF use?, Tesline, 26-Apr-19 11:18 PM, #40
     Reply RE: What language does CF use?, Rahsael, 27-Apr-19 01:19 AM, #42
          Reply So...it'd be as useful as learning latin?, Tesline, 27-Apr-19 08:14 AM, #48
Reply beating the same drum as usual, Dallevian, 26-Apr-19 01:06 PM, #2
Reply I could get on board with most of these, Wasted, 26-Apr-19 01:46 PM, #3
Reply RE: beating the same drum as usual, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 02:38 PM, #5
     Reply RE: beating the same drum as usual, Kstatida, 28-Apr-19 02:29 AM, #66
Reply Remove PK requirements for joining cabals until playerb..., Lhydia, 26-Apr-19 12:19 PM, #1
     Reply Ehhh., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 02:37 PM, #4
          Reply Easy fix., Lhydia, 26-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Easy fix., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 04:17 PM, #10
          Reply Respectfully disagree, Old player (Anonymous), 26-Apr-19 08:22 PM, #24
          Reply RE: Respectfully disagree, Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 08:47 PM, #26
          Reply Nope., Berserker (Anonymous), 26-Apr-19 08:50 PM, #27
               Reply RE: Nope., Ishuli, 26-Apr-19 09:09 PM, #30
                    Reply True nt, Saagkri, 26-Apr-19 10:03 PM, #37
                    Reply This was the case under ghar/thirisg/oliopterix and AFA..., Demos, 27-Apr-19 12:10 AM, #41
          Reply That fort requirement, incognito, 27-Apr-19 10:19 AM, #55
          Reply Here is the big disconnect., Former villager (Anonymous), 26-Apr-19 10:16 PM, #39
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