Tac | Tue 06-Nov-18 11:19 AM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
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#72018, "Go at it?"
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but it seems like you are saying that I can't look at the actions of two people and say, this person behaved badly, that person's response to that was also not good. Both people could have behaved better.
So that you better understand my position, I'll outline it here, not that anyone should care, but it is worth my time to state.
Hell was cool. Like as a work of art it was clearly made with a lot of love and attention to detail. It was fun to explore the few times I was able to. I am not a person who generally enjoys the kinds of puzzles CF has to offer. They don't feel fun to me in the same way I don't find most crosswords enjoyable. I don't mind spoiling such things for myself, because the alternative is a lot of time spent doing something I don't enjoy. That said, I also think, from a gameplay perspective, I am glad that Hell is closed.
I may be miss-attributing things to Scarab that he didn't have a hand in, but my opinion is that Scarab is not generally the best at designing well-balanced things. I have no idea how much Scarab plays, or doesn't, but some of the gear from Hell was brokenly good. Free flurries from gear just aren't balanced and probably never were.
All that said, I think Scarab's decision to close Hell because logs were posted publicly is silly and somewhat childish. I know Hell info was shared OOC. Anyone who believes otherwise I think is being willfully ignorant of the realities of CF and info-sharing. Publicly shared Hell logs are, in my opinion, more fair than privately shared OOC info (which was already reality) because at least with something publicly distributed, everyone is on equal footing, instead of some people having access to Hell info (via private OOC sharing) and others not.
In this particular case, you have a player who was clearly invested to a point where they had a very emotional reaction to some bits of armor on their fantasy character in a text game getting removed. I think this is the other edge of the "investment" sword. Player's who are invested in their character will react emotionally to things that are bad for said character.
Did the player handle it well? #### no. Did the staff handle his tantrum well? I don't know, I wasn't present. Certainly from his perspective (and he's, in my opinion, a little crazy) it wasn't. He wanted an explanation and wasn't satisfied, so he threw a giant hissy fit and posted information against the author's wishes.
And now we come to now. I'm not trying to be "overly negative". I firmly believe the game is less rich, but more balanced for Hell being closed. I simply believe the reasoning behind it is silly and a bit childish, especially because this sharing of information was already happening.
Scarab doesn't need to defend his decision, and we aren't likely to agree on this particular point of philosophy as he has a fundamentally different opinion on art than I do. All I wanted to do was state my dissenting opinion, which I did.
Is Scarab not an adult? Can he not handle criticism? Is his ego so fragile we must all defend his every decision and though it is right and proper? I think not. I give him more credit than that.
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Closing out Orctober.
[View all] , Tac, Fri 02-Nov-18 10:27 AM
persecution,
Scarabaeus,
06-Nov-18 05:45 AM, #34
Wohoo all dead souls go to heaven now!?!? nt,
Marcus_,
06-Nov-18 07:41 AM, #36
With the 7 Heavens closed, they go to /dev/null n/t,
Scarabaeus,
06-Nov-18 08:13 AM, #37
I have an idea for a TV show.. Better call Zorzsaul,
Marcus_,
08-Nov-18 08:45 AM, #50
RE: persecution,
Tac,
06-Nov-18 10:15 AM, #38
Not all responses are a full on discussion.,
ice king,
06-Nov-18 10:35 AM, #39
I wasn't asking for a discussion either?,
Tac,
06-Nov-18 10:37 AM, #40
"Equally so? Probably not" yet you still go at it.,
ice king,
06-Nov-18 10:42 AM, #42
Go at it?,
Tac,
06-Nov-18 11:19 AM #43
RE: Go at it?,
ice king,
06-Nov-18 11:53 AM, #44
RE: Go at it?,
JohnEveryMan,
06-Nov-18 12:24 PM, #45
Tac is on a negative nancy kick.,
ice king,
06-Nov-18 10:41 AM, #41
hey bud,
Dallevian,
06-Nov-18 03:35 PM, #46
Orctober, was this you or another CF player?,
KoeKhaos,
03-Nov-18 07:01 PM, #31
Totaly agree.,
vorian,
02-Nov-18 09:12 PM, #19
RE: Totaly agree.,
Ishuli,
02-Nov-18 09:29 PM, #20
RE: Totaly agree.,
Saagkri,
03-Nov-18 01:11 AM, #22
RE: Totaly agree.,
Ishuli,
03-Nov-18 09:14 AM, #25
RE: Totaly agree.,
Rahsael,
03-Nov-18 01:50 PM, #27
Apologies...,
vorian,
03-Nov-18 02:50 PM, #29
RE: Closing out Orctober.,
Not An Imm,
02-Nov-18 02:59 PM, #16
RE: Closing out Orctober.,
Ishuli,
02-Nov-18 03:06 PM, #17
Speaking about other games,
Marcus_,
04-Nov-18 12:47 PM, #32
Great video,
Kstatida,
02-Nov-18 02:12 PM, #13
games are social,
Dallevian,
02-Nov-18 01:14 PM, #10
I really like some of the points in here...,
Tac,
05-Nov-18 10:11 AM, #33
The replies are interesting,
Saagkri,
02-Nov-18 12:51 PM, #6
RE: The replies are interesting,
Ishuli,
02-Nov-18 01:00 PM, #8
RE: The replies are interesting,
Saagkri,
02-Nov-18 01:39 PM, #11
Some input,
robdarken_,
02-Nov-18 01:57 PM, #12
RE: Some input,
Saagkri,
03-Nov-18 01:04 AM, #21
the unexpected,
Scarabaeus,
06-Nov-18 06:57 AM, #35
RE: the unexpected,
Saagkri,
06-Nov-18 05:00 PM, #49
Didn't expect us to be on the same page here,
incognito,
06-Nov-18 03:57 PM, #47
Forgot to revert before doing the restore.,
Murphy,
02-Nov-18 08:46 PM, #18
RE: The replies are interesting,
Jormyr,
03-Nov-18 03:22 PM, #30
I didn't know you had a toddler,
Saagkri,
06-Nov-18 04:48 PM, #48
I hit on what I could, but I feel like I'm missing some...,
Ishuli,
02-Nov-18 11:43 AM, #5
RE: I hit on what I could, but I feel like I'm missing ...,
Tac,
02-Nov-18 12:58 PM, #7
RE: I hit on what I could, but I feel like I'm missing ...,
Ishuli,
02-Nov-18 01:06 PM, #9
Look,
Rogos (Anonymous),
02-Nov-18 11:34 AM, #4
less time, less patience,
Kstatida,
02-Nov-18 02:23 PM, #14
RE: less time, less patience,
Rogos (Anonymous),
02-Nov-18 02:50 PM, #15
Edges are in a fairly good place now.,
Oh hi! (Anonymous),
03-Nov-18 01:16 AM, #23
Blah blah blah they are not. (n/t),
Murphy,
03-Nov-18 02:51 AM, #24
RE: Edges are in a fairly good place now.,
Rogos (Anonymous),
03-Nov-18 11:17 AM, #26
Roles also don't have to be novels.,
Jormyr,
03-Nov-18 02:35 PM, #28
RE: Closing out Orctober.,
robdarken_,
02-Nov-18 10:57 AM, #2
These posts are getting exhausting, sheesh,
Mcbeth,
02-Nov-18 11:15 AM, #3
I don't know about Discord.,
JohnEveryMan,
02-Nov-18 10:44 AM, #1
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