robdarken_ | Wed 24-Oct-18 06:37 AM |
Member since 09th Sep 2009
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#71802, "I'm wasn't likening that point to a legal proceeding"
Edited on Wed 24-Oct-18 07:08 AM
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I was responding to your comments about how it compares to a legal process. The latter bit has entirely to do with moral arguments.
Perhaps I talk about Law and Ethics in a similar way. You should disregard that because I always talk like that.
Here's how I personally think of this type of situation, morally and with regard to trust...
A stranger is writing a letter, but gets distracted and walks away, forgetting they left the letter in the open: it's cruel and morally indecent to read without their permission. But not a betrayal of trust (they didn't trust you).
A stranger gives you a letter, telling you it contains their correspondence with someone else, and incriminates both of them in a plot against your community, additionally you are an authority in your community: it's not only fair but required to read it. The community is trusting you to enforce the rules they've agreed to abide by. Not a betrayal.
A stranger gives you a letter, telling you it contains their correspondence with your personal friend, and incriminates both of them in a plot against your community: you wouldn't read your friends private correspondence without their permission, and because they are trusting you not to and you don't think they would do anything terrible (if not why the hell are they your friend?), reading it is a betrayal of trust.
I think Murphy and the Imms are in a situation like the second example, not the third, and the third illustrates my view about "friend like privacy".
edit:I'll admit the third is pretty shoddy/bad, but I'll leave it up because it hopefully it reveals the difference in how we might be using the word trust, for the sake of clarity. Mine is obviously personal and not some gold standard.
Point being, without writing an essay, this isn't morally black and white and I think it's ridiculous to imply the staff did something abhorrent by reading the skype log.
And yes I agree if they want people to play their game, they should act in a way that coincides with most people's definition of trust. However my impression is that people who disagree with my assessment of situations like number 2 are largely in the minority.
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If we all just trust the imms and stop making demands
[View all] , Murphy, Sun 21-Oct-18 11:50 PM
RE: If we all just trust the imms and stop making deman...,
robdarken_,
22-Oct-18 05:53 PM, #14
Right, we can use a different term.,
Murphy,
22-Oct-18 06:12 PM, #15
RE: If we all just trust the imms and stop making deman...,
Saagkri,
23-Oct-18 04:52 PM, #19
RE: If we all just trust the imms and stop making deman...,
robdarken_,
24-Oct-18 05:18 AM, #34
Wait wait wait what?,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 05:31 AM, #37
RE: Wait wait wait what?,
robdarken_,
24-Oct-18 05:43 AM, #39
I'm from Hello Kitty Island Adventure Land.,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 06:11 AM, #41
Here's why it doesn't work...,
Saagkri,
24-Oct-18 06:19 AM, #42
I'm wasn't likening that point to a legal proceeding,
robdarken_,
24-Oct-18 07:08 AM #43
I agree with your assessment in a generic situation.,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 07:32 AM, #48
Why I brought this up all of a sudden.,
Murphy,
22-Oct-18 06:34 AM, #7
Constitutions,
laxman,
22-Oct-18 01:58 AM, #2
Check out Patriot act,
Kstatida,
22-Oct-18 04:29 AM, #5
Not part of the constitution ,
laxman,
22-Oct-18 09:15 AM, #8
Forgive Murphy,
Kstatida,
22-Oct-18 01:37 PM, #10
That is part of the constitution ,
laxman,
22-Oct-18 01:47 PM, #12
Use Google, you nitpicker. (N/T),
Murphy,
22-Oct-18 06:22 PM, #16
I didn’t take all of those general ed required h...,
laxman,
22-Oct-18 07:15 PM, #17
Amendment 4,
Kstatida,
23-Oct-18 09:45 AM, #18
Doesn’t cover this situation ,
laxman,
23-Oct-18 04:58 PM, #20
Ok mr. Lawyer, I will just quote Wikipedia to quell the...,
Murphy,
23-Oct-18 10:02 PM, #21
They didn’t hack your skype,
laxman,
23-Oct-18 10:49 PM, #22
The police may have that right, CF imms don't.,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 12:06 AM, #24
RE: The police may have that right, CF imms don't.,
robdarken_,
24-Oct-18 05:42 AM, #38
Re: why is your privacy a higher decency concern than c...,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 05:58 AM, #40
RE: Re: why is your privacy a higher decency concern th...,
lasentia,
24-Oct-18 06:52 AM, #45
The fault lies with both,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 07:20 AM, #47
And betrayal of trust only requires one thing,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 06:51 AM, #44
RE: And betrayal of trust only requires one thing,
robdarken_,
24-Oct-18 07:12 AM, #46
RE: Doesn’t cover this situation ,
Kstatida,
24-Oct-18 03:48 AM, #30
Guys this NPC got out of CF. Get a coder on this ASAP. ...,
robdarken_,
22-Oct-18 05:40 AM, #6
I'll show you I'm trustworthy. Just email me your debit...,
Rahsael,
22-Oct-18 01:52 AM, #1
Fair enough. Your online count approves this point of v...,
Meh (Anonymous),
22-Oct-18 03:30 AM, #3
If every unhappy person immediately left,
Murphy,
22-Oct-18 04:00 AM, #4
RE: If every unhappy person immediately left,
Rahsael,
22-Oct-18 11:20 AM, #9
People are diverse,
Kstatida,
22-Oct-18 01:39 PM, #11
I'm pretty okay right now.,
Murphy,
22-Oct-18 05:57 PM, #13
You're wrong though.,
Swordsosaurus,
23-Oct-18 11:20 PM, #23
I was using it to talk to my friends, not to cheat,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 12:30 AM, #25
Again, the disconnect.,
Swordsosaurus,
24-Oct-18 12:38 AM, #26
Yeah I'm not your boss.,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 12:50 AM, #27
And I thought they should know that I think you're wron...,
Swordsosaurus,
24-Oct-18 01:00 AM, #28
It's not difficult at all.,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 01:29 AM, #29
It's about common sense and moral law,
Kstatida,
24-Oct-18 03:56 AM, #31
Stop cheating.,
Swordsosaurus,
24-Oct-18 04:47 AM, #32
He isn't cheating lol, he is banned.,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 05:23 AM, #36
I don't need your advice about what to do rly,
Kstatida,
24-Oct-18 03:37 PM, #49
Honestly, it's a difficult situation.,
Swordsosaurus,
24-Oct-18 04:51 AM, #33
Lol I never meant to,
Murphy,
24-Oct-18 05:17 AM, #35
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