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#70868, "RE: Love how you downplay everything you have =)"
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Let's be prescriptive about this instead of purely critical. How do you think it should work?
Ground rules: nothing changes about how Empire powers and promotion work. Staff retains the right to nerf emperors who refuse to appoint a council.
Open questions:
1. What should be the criteria for promotion to Maran? 2. How many Maran should be allowed to exist at any given time?
Should it matter if some number of existing Maran are dormant and play very infrequently?
Should the cap on # of Maran be "floating" in some way, e.g. based off the # of characters "council or above" (or possibly "elite or above") in Empire?
In terms of Maran promotion, if I had to make up criteria I'd do something like: 10+ ePKs, rank 35+, 7 + RL days as a squire, 20+ game-hours as a squire, 50+ total game hours. I'd be open to tweaking some of those numbers up or down.
Here are stats on some prominent recent Fortress characters at the point they were promoted to Maran. The only one that sticks out as having been promoted "too quickly" is Hunsodin.
Thaedan: 8 PK, rank 43, 16 days as a squire, 64 hours as a squire, 96 total hours Hunsodin: 3 PK, rank 37, 3 days as squire, 9 hours as squire, 52 total hours. Talimor: 11 PK, rank 31, 7 days as squire, 29 hours as squire, 46 total hours. Koidel: 15 PK, rank 51, 9 days as squire, 92 hours as squire, 106 total hours. Zurra: 35 PK, rank 33, 43 days as a squire, 63 hours as a squire, 111 total hours. Lithodora: 23 PK, rank 42, 23 days as a squire, 100 hours as a squire, 134 total hours.
Out of curiosity I checked some Empire characters to see how many RL days it took for them to go from Bloodoath to Elite. Unfortunately it's not possible to pull stuff like hours, etc. from the data in the PBF posts.
Glikhardiz: 7 days Arbrarn: 23 days Hetherian: 5 days Hokrur: 12 days Vasidi: 10 days Bakrmarr: 7 days Kijar: 20 days Kirohn: 3 days Glaunm: 15 days Tchakabum: 23 days Kotu: 14 days Faldeikso: 8 days
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Fortress and Maran Cry of the Phoenix in light of curre...
[View all] , Vermin, Thu 10-May-18 12:08 PM
Amazing,
Mek,
27-May-18 07:21 PM, #37
Agreed. Surprised this is dismissed,
incognito,
28-May-18 07:17 AM, #38
Thats a silly argument,
Destuvius,
28-May-18 07:56 AM, #39
It just goes to show you...,
Relio,
28-May-18 10:07 AM, #40
RE: Thats a silly argument,
Shravthar,
28-May-18 03:09 PM, #41
Actually....,
Destuvius,
28-May-18 04:38 PM, #44
I don't have a dog in this fight, but...,
Saagkri,
28-May-18 03:48 PM, #42
RE: I don't have a dog in this fight, but...,
Destuvius,
28-May-18 04:39 PM, #45
Your logic takes you to a different place to mine,
incognito,
28-May-18 04:33 PM, #43
Fortress is fine they are just on an upswing. ,
polmier,
11-May-18 11:40 AM, #28
RE: Fortress and Maran Cry of the Phoenix in light of c...,
Umiron,
10-May-18 09:45 PM, #17
RE: Fortress and Maran Cry of the Phoenix in light of c...,
Kstatida,
11-May-18 07:48 AM, #22
RE: Fortress and Maran Cry of the Phoenix in light of c...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
11-May-18 09:32 AM, #23
That is the point and you cannot easily quantify it wit...,
Vermin,
11-May-18 10:47 AM, #25
RE: That is the point and you cannot easily quantify it...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
11-May-18 11:09 AM, #27
RE: That is the point and you cannot easily quantify it...,
Umiron,
11-May-18 03:23 PM, #33
simple solution i proposed long ago,
Dallevian,
11-May-18 03:31 PM, #34
You're calling out numbers at the peak of a pendulum s...,
Cointreau,
10-May-18 05:09 PM, #12
Gangs and ganked.,
Matrik-,
10-May-18 04:49 PM, #10
RE: Fortress and Maran Cry of the Phoenix in light of c...,
Jhyrbian,
10-May-18 04:35 PM, #9
>May want to check with that Fortress Imm. ,
Korsgaard,
10-May-18 04:11 PM, #7
But I wanna be a maran after 30 hours being in the guil...,
Blkdrgn,
10-May-18 04:32 PM, #8
Umi gave a spot on idea for Squires,
Korsgaard,
10-May-18 10:36 PM, #18
The joke was lost in the text :P. I don't think maran s...,
Blkdrgn,
11-May-18 12:54 PM, #29
Yup, this is why I stopped posting,
Vermin,
10-May-18 05:06 PM, #11
Maybe too little too late in this instance,
Destuvius,
10-May-18 05:39 PM, #13
meme game is on point,
Dallevian,
10-May-18 09:15 PM, #16
Worry not,
Kstatida,
10-May-18 03:01 PM, #
Worry not,
Kstatida,
10-May-18 03:01 PM, #3
*sigh* It's finally come.,
Jormyr,
10-May-18 02:29 PM, #2
As always you are jumping to conclusions and not readin...,
Vermin,
10-May-18 03:05 PM, #4
Simple maths lesson,
Bemused,
10-May-18 05:50 PM, #14
Current numbers bring what they are is no reason for ba...,
Drissa (Anonymous),
11-May-18 02:13 AM, #19
Love how you downplay everything you have =),
Bemused,
11-May-18 03:56 AM, #20
So long as we are scrutinizing,,
Seriphax,
11-May-18 05:08 AM, #21
RE: So long as we are scrutinizing,,
Kstatida,
11-May-18 03:11 PM, #31
RE: Love how you downplay everything you have =),
Thaedan (Anonymous),
11-May-18 10:56 AM #26
Lol, fair enough,
Drissa (Anonymous),
11-May-18 05:03 PM, #36
RE: Current numbers bring what they are is no reason fo...,
Kstatida,
11-May-18 03:09 PM, #30
Do feel free to educate me, maybe I missed something,
Drissa (Anonymous),
11-May-18 04:54 PM, #35
I stopped playing because Shapaa was cheating. Not beca...,
k-b,
11-May-18 10:05 AM, #24
I guess you still don't play,
Kstatida,
11-May-18 03:11 PM, #32
Please lay off the crack pipe :P,
Drissa (Anonymous),
10-May-18 02:20 PM, #1
Its a good discussion and you are guilty of using it in...,
Vermin,
10-May-18 03:21 PM, #5
Phffthrrruubt,
Demos,
10-May-18 04:08 PM, #6
RE: Its a good discussion and you are guilty of using i...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
10-May-18 06:48 PM, #15
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