Dallevian | Thu 11-Sep-14 07:16 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1618 posts
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#56639, "Agreed."
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I have liked survivalist, animist, hunter, and savage all better than beastmaster. I've played probably 6 beastmasters in hero range, 2 at level 51.
Predators stance is good for gnome killing, I'll give it that.
Serpent kin is more likely to get you killed than to contribute in killing someone else.
Wolf kinship, great skill, worth the level you get it at.
Wasps, ok, ridiculously hard to land, awesome in 30s, super duper easy to manage once a hero though (either by gold, spells, preps, whatever).
Bear kinship? They have more health since the change, that's the only thing I've noticed. They don't do anything else though, no bash, bearcharge, dirt kick, swipe, claw, nada. Different terrain bears should do different things.
Tame? Let me help some people out on all the mobs that cannot be charmed:
spiderhaunt creatures siege encampment creatures (jaguar, boar, lizard, etc) dire wolves and other animals (bear, moose, deer, etc) cavefisher and juvenile basilisks different serpents arctic bear or yeti moss, obliviax, or other assorted ysigrath creatures heck, i even tried charming shrine mobs just to see (thought i might get lucky with baer's jaguar!)
What does that leave you? In order of ok-ness you can charm snow leopard, crocodile from swamp, and wooly mammoth. yes there are others but they're all low level or worthless
Anyway, wasps and wolfkin are good, the latter more so, but I've found call lightning is a better killer/sealer than the other two combined.
Not only that but there are some terrains where you can't even use some of the beastmaster skills (water, cold, desert).
Now, ideas on how to improve beastmaster
Bird kinship - allows a ranger to call a bird and whisper it a name of a visible opponent. if that person is outdoor it will report back the location or general direction.
Serpent kinship - allow different serpents to be called that are tailored to the effects. Add neurological poisoning as one, confuse as another, + the current muddle, bleeding, hold person, poison. Increase the success rate. Or at least address the hold person effect, it makes no sense why it only last 4 rounds on a pc but 3 ticks on an npc (is it broken?).
Bear kinship - make them stronger in damage + additional effects
Tame - make some current mobs tame-able
Wolf kinship - let the mob be tamed and charmed if the rangers wants
Predator's stance - add some active skills to where if a ranger is fighting like that, they can do some additional in-combat skills, maybe make it terrain based. It'd be great if one of those was a way to lag someone (you're already giving up parry/shield block if so).
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Beastmaster (Erjoloc/Ekaerok/Dallevian)
[View all] , -flso, Thu 11-Sep-14 05:51 PM
Beast master was good for me,
incognito,
13-Sep-14 03:12 AM, #21
RE: Beastmaster (Erjoloc/Ekaerok/Dallevian),
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
12-Sep-14 09:28 AM, #4
re: hunters,
Dallevian,
12-Sep-14 09:45 AM, #5
RE: re: hunters,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
12-Sep-14 12:34 PM, #6
wasps ate a huge nerf post nreeishe IIRC,
Sarien,
12-Sep-14 01:16 PM, #7
they didn't use beastmaster skills either,
Dallevian,
12-Sep-14 01:31 PM, #9
RE: wasps ate a huge nerf post nreeishe IIRC,
Daevryn,
12-Sep-14 05:18 PM, #17
Not only that, pretty sure Nreisshe got most of her kil...,
TMNS,
12-Sep-14 05:19 PM, #19
Gotcha.,
Sarien,
15-Sep-14 08:50 AM, #22
Is this true, the INT component?,
Mayal (Anonymous),
15-Sep-14 09:51 AM, #23
So have I.,
Mendos,
15-Sep-14 03:20 PM, #24
RE: Gotcha.,
Daevryn,
15-Sep-14 06:30 PM, #25
Thank you!,
Sarien,
16-Sep-14 07:00 AM, #26
Wasp terrains,
The Heretic,
20-Sep-14 07:11 PM, #27
Not underwater,
incognito,
21-Sep-14 04:15 AM, #28
RE: Wasp terrains,
DurNominator,
24-Sep-14 11:34 AM, #30
Hymenoptera are overpowered,
Swordsosaurus,
26-Sep-14 06:21 PM, #33
Wasn't predator's stance changed?,
Eskelian,
26-Sep-14 11:46 AM, #32
Your timing is off,
Elerosse,
12-Sep-14 01:30 PM, #8
It's not that simple :-),
-flso,
12-Sep-14 01:32 PM, #10
RE: It's not that simple :-),
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
12-Sep-14 02:25 PM, #13
RE: It's not that simple :-),
-flso,
12-Sep-14 02:43 PM, #14
Karel played a Beastmaster berserker....,
TMNS,
12-Sep-14 05:18 PM, #18
RE: It's not that simple :-),
Mort,
12-Sep-14 08:31 PM, #20
Paraloiut was Marsh Beastmaster, not explorer...,
Vonzamir,
12-Sep-14 03:23 PM, #15
RE: Paraloiut was Marsh Beastmaster, not explorer...,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
12-Sep-14 04:42 PM, #16
Clarifications,
-flso,
12-Sep-14 01:56 PM, #11
RE: Clarifications,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
12-Sep-14 02:03 PM, #12
Can't guarantee having outlander leader powers.,
Eskelian,
26-Sep-14 11:40 AM, #31
Agreed.,
Dallevian,
11-Sep-14 07:16 PM #1
cosign all the above,
Scrimbul,
12-Sep-14 12:05 AM, #2
Bird kinship sounds awesome. nt.,
-flso,
12-Sep-14 04:08 AM, #3
RE: Agreed.,
Hutto,
22-Sep-14 09:35 AM, #29
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