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MoligantTue 03-Jun-14 12:02 AM
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#55581, "Never said they did...."


          

In fact after re-reading my post I did in fact point out that my point would stand whether or not those guards that roam eastern were tribunal guards or just connected to the cities...i.e....city-guards.

The main gist of the post is that they are (my assumption) directly connected to the political powers that run which ever city or cities lay claim to Eastern road.

Those guards aren't (from the perspective of an imperial) protecting the roads when they attack the centurions. They are directly interfering with the centurions ability to collect tithes to the Empire on 'their' road.

In any book I've read, every fantasy novel, every fantasy movie of an authoritarian government with vast military power and a penchant for conquest was repeatedly attacked on a territory (eastern road) that just happens to be a major hub of trade between two major cities there would be major repercussions for those militant acts. That major military power would use those acts as pretext for war.

I understand there has to be some 'looking the other way' when it comes to making fantasy work in an interactive game like this one though. But let the 'looking the other way' go in all directions if so.

We can stick to our guns on RP - which would require taking a hard look at the current relationship between empire and tribunals which this post has brought the brunt of scrutiny to...and just admit that it simply doesn't make sense...from an RP perspective....because saying that the Empire is simply promoting order is a weak band-aid to cover a gaping hole in RP logic....then come up with some ways to keep things as are but have a better explanation (like a treaty for example or instead of roaming guards attacking the centurions maybe roaming bands of outlanders?)

OR

We can admit that sometimes out of sheer convenience we allow things that don't really make much RP sense to slide for the sake of maintaining the status quo. Which is fine. Just look me in the eye and tell me that instead of trying to hand me a band-aid. Then we can have a more honest discourse knowing that we ALL stumble on RP....even the game itself.

  

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HOT TopicEmpire! [View all] , Destuvius, Tue 20-May-14 08:42 PM
Reply Another point about Empire/Tribunal - Eastern Road, Moligant, 02-Jun-14 04:18 PM, #84
Reply City guards do not = tribunal guards, Zephon, 02-Jun-14 09:39 PM, #85
     Reply Never said they did...., Moligant, 03-Jun-14 12:02 AM #86
          Reply RE: Never said they did...., Destuvius, 03-Jun-14 05:50 AM, #87
          Reply Logic, Moligant, 03-Jun-14 02:20 PM, #88
               Reply Logic part 2 - Xmen DOFP, Moligant, 03-Jun-14 04:08 PM, #89
               Reply I chocked it up to., Kalageadon, 03-Jun-14 04:30 PM, #90
               Reply That was not the only one., Perpetual_Noob, 03-Jun-14 06:57 PM, #91
                    Reply Um.., Kalageadon, 03-Jun-14 09:38 PM, #93
               Reply If it makes you feel any better..., Tac, 03-Jun-14 11:50 PM, #94
               Reply I do tend to agree that it cuts both ways., Eskelian, 06-Jun-14 01:55 PM, #96
          Reply Who is to say it is not the imperial centurions that ar..., Zephon, 03-Jun-14 09:02 PM, #92
               Reply RE: Who is to say it is not the imperial centurions tha..., Moligant, 04-Jun-14 03:04 AM, #95
Reply Still taking suggestions?, TMNS, 22-May-14 10:05 PM, #64
Reply Always open for more suggestions, Destuvius, 23-May-14 05:28 AM, #68
     Reply Some more...ideas? I guess., TMNS, 23-May-14 05:17 PM, #74
          Reply Potential Long-Term Stuff, Destuvius, 23-May-14 05:41 PM, #75
          Reply When I played Empire a lot, KaguMaru, 25-May-14 03:21 AM, #77
               Reply My solution was, incognito, 25-May-14 07:51 AM, #78
          Reply Re centurions, incognito, 25-May-14 01:08 AM, #76
               Reply Can I ask you one question?, TMNS, 26-May-14 12:47 AM, #82
                    Reply We weren't in a position of strength, incognito, 26-May-14 07:31 AM, #83
Reply Taking some of these ideas up the ladder, Destuvius, 22-May-14 09:25 PM, #59
Reply Excuse me., Tsunami, 22-May-14 09:46 PM, #61
Reply The 'Guideline Updates' in a nutshell, Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:32 PM, #26
Reply On one hand I'm glad this is cleared up after Aballem. ..., TheBluestThumb, 21-May-14 07:09 PM, #33
Reply RE: On one hand I'm glad this is cleared up after Aball..., Destuvius, 21-May-14 07:15 PM, #34
Reply Empire vs Tribunal law, KaguMaru, 22-May-14 05:30 AM, #36
Reply You have misunderstood, Destuvius, 22-May-14 05:50 PM, #49
     Reply RE: You have misunderstood, Vonzamir, 22-May-14 07:25 PM, #54
     Reply Alignment trumps all others but ethos is meaningless?, crsweeney, 22-May-14 08:34 PM, #56
          Reply I speak for me, not all of team imm here:, Destuvius, 22-May-14 08:45 PM, #58
               Reply Deception., Tsunami, 22-May-14 09:44 PM, #60
                    Reply RE: Deception., Nythos (Anonymous), 22-May-14 10:51 PM, #65
                    Reply Yes., Tsunami, 23-May-14 12:46 AM, #66
                    Reply RE: Deception., Destuvius, 23-May-14 05:39 AM, #70
                         Reply Point., Tsunami, 23-May-14 09:34 AM, #73
Reply Empire/Tribunal, Moligant, 22-May-14 04:29 PM, #44
     Reply RE: Empire/Tribunal, Destuvius, 22-May-14 05:57 PM, #50
          Reply RE: Empire/Tribunal, Moligant, 22-May-14 07:10 PM, #53
               Reply Empire is trying to recruit people to take bloodoath., DurNominator, 23-May-14 07:57 AM, #71
                    Reply Fine, Moligant, 23-May-14 09:14 AM, #72
Reply Spreading Influence., DonSampson, 21-May-14 02:59 PM, #19
Reply RE: Spreading Influence., Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:44 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Spreading Influence., DonSampson, 22-May-14 02:11 AM, #35
     Reply It would be quite cool, Abernyte, 22-May-14 07:15 AM, #37
Reply RE: Empire! - Centurions, Amora, 21-May-14 12:18 PM, #12
Reply Intersting Idea, Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:43 PM, #31
     Reply Speaking of centurions, Moligant, 22-May-14 03:44 PM, #42
     Reply RE: Intersting Idea, Pendragon_Surtr, 22-May-14 06:06 PM, #51
Reply Automate the coup process, incognito, 21-May-14 08:46 AM, #8
Reply Maybe down the road, Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:41 PM, #30
     Reply However, incognito, 22-May-14 12:51 PM, #39
          Reply RE: However, Destuvius, 22-May-14 05:42 PM, #48
               Reply You aren't really immortal, Tac, 25-May-14 01:01 PM, #79
                    Reply RE: You aren't really immortal, Destuvius, 25-May-14 01:13 PM, #80
                         Reply RE: You aren't really immortal, Tac, 25-May-14 07:47 PM, #81
Reply Get rid of donations., Sarien, 21-May-14 08:20 AM, #7
Reply Pretty much this. Also what Dur said about autoremoval...., Calion, 21-May-14 09:49 AM, #9
Reply Or..., Moligant, 21-May-14 10:48 AM, #10
     Reply It was taken away because imperials fulled their kills ..., DurNominator, 21-May-14 11:51 AM, #11
          Reply No, I don't think that was it., wareagle, 21-May-14 01:40 PM, #14
               Reply Also., wareagle, 21-May-14 01:41 PM, #15
                    Reply I remember summoning pete for the shadow dagger..., Vonzamir, 21-May-14 06:13 PM, #25
Reply I love the imperial tax idea., TMNS, 21-May-14 01:35 PM, #13
Reply Yea, this stems from Niji telling me if I had my donati..., Sarien, 21-May-14 03:15 PM, #20
Reply RE: I love the imperial tax idea. +1, Ekaerok (Anonymous), 21-May-14 03:45 PM, #23
     Reply Minimum, Tsunami, 21-May-14 03:59 PM, #24
Reply Yeah, thats never going to happen, Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:36 PM, #27
     Reply Treasure items should def. be allowed., Calion, 22-May-14 09:14 AM, #38
     Reply Promoting people is somewhat of a pain., TMNS, 22-May-14 01:42 PM, #40
          Reply The point of it was., wareagle, 22-May-14 03:41 PM, #41
               Reply I was told it was at least 100 gold to promote. NT, TMNS, 22-May-14 03:44 PM, #43
                    Reply Re: I was told, wareagle, 22-May-14 04:51 PM, #45
                         Reply I did play an imperial recently., TMNS, 22-May-14 05:05 PM, #46
                              Reply Did you promote anyone?, wareagle, 22-May-14 05:18 PM, #47
                                   Reply Some answers., TMNS, 22-May-14 06:12 PM, #52
                                        Reply You were misinformed, Twist, 22-May-14 08:08 PM, #55
                                             Reply RE: You were misinformed, wareagle, 22-May-14 08:42 PM, #57
                                             Reply I never said I didn't want to try., TMNS, 22-May-14 09:57 PM, #62
                                             Reply Thanks! I may try another imperial in like 9 months :)..., TMNS, 22-May-14 10:00 PM, #63
Reply It would be nice if Imperials of lower echelons didn't ..., DurNominator, 21-May-14 07:38 AM, #6
Reply Sorry, no dice, Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:38 PM, #28
     Reply Why do you need autoboot when autodelete is already tak..., DurNominator, 23-May-14 03:24 AM, #67
          Reply RE: Why do you need autoboot when autodelete is already..., Destuvius, 23-May-14 05:34 AM, #69
Reply Sent you a long rambling email not to long ago but..., Vonzamir, 21-May-14 02:48 AM, #5
Reply RE: Sent you a long rambling email not to long ago but...., Destuvius, 21-May-14 06:40 PM, #29
Reply Where is the information posted to read to comment on?, CD, 20-May-14 09:33 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Where is the information posted to read to comment ..., Destuvius, 20-May-14 09:36 PM, #2
          Reply It should be posted someplace so we can read it, CD, 20-May-14 09:53 PM, #3
          Reply Log into the game. Then you can read it., Tac, 20-May-14 10:28 PM, #4
               Reply Logging in is one thing, atanek, 21-May-14 02:12 PM, #17
          Reply That isn't very helpful., atanek, 21-May-14 02:28 PM, #16
          Reply WHY?!?!, Tsunami, 21-May-14 03:20 PM, #21
          Reply Light bulb., Tsunami, 21-May-14 03:25 PM, #22
          Reply Perhaps put some if not all the information within the ..., SPN, 21-May-14 02:20 PM, #18
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