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shokaiFri 26-Mar-04 12:30 PM
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#4175, "RE: Good Killing Neutral"


  

          



There's a few things here I'm going to comment on.

Item 1 - Goods killing neutrals.

Personally, I don't see it as some huge horrible sin...as long as it's not a constant thing. It should also not be a thoughtless act IC. By this I mean, if I ever see a good whacking neutral mob after neutral mob just for...oh, I dunno, let's say copper...I'm going to intervene. Additionally, if I see a good who kills a ton of neutral mobs (or pc's) with no remorse at all...it's not a good thing. Steer this over to paladins and the edge becomes even more fine. A lot of people have commented on how horridly overpowered paladins are...welcome to the catch. Paladins are pretty highly scrutinized and pretty much every imm keeps an eye on them. Sure there have been some crappy ones here and there, but the ones who really stand out as powerful...well, they've earned the power. Not only is the code enforced, but we expect them to be pinacles of good...so there are some things that other goods can get away with that a paladin probably can't.

Item 2 - Gnomish serial killers.

There have been a good handful of neutrals who have found themselves suddenly evil through their actions. However, neutrals, by sheer definition of neutrality, have a far broader scope of things they can do within their rp than goods. (For those of you keeping score, neutral is exactly that...neutral. It's not someone who is both evil and good at times, nor is it someone who waffles back and forth...it's someone who is neither.) Additionally, Thera is not our reality, it's a hideously violent place. So anytime you start holding Theran neutrals to 'real world' morality...you've got a problem, since even the most noble of noble paladins would be locked away and given the lethal injection were they to exist in our world.

Item 3 - Hero range lately.

I can't quite express exactly how annoying it is to constantly have to hear people complain that the 'other side' is 'winning' because hero range is swamped with (good/evil/neutral/ragers/mages/imperials/maran/rabid man-apes with pink tutus) whatever the opposition tends to be. The balance is in constant flux, it always will be. I'm not so much pointing at you here, but anyone who feels the need to post that as an arguement, before you post...check histories and archives, see how many times people have complained about your side being in power. I assure you, the side that is up has been down, and the side that is down has been up. So spaketh the Floofi.

  

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HOT TopicGood Killing Neutral [View all] , Thelleneor, Fri 09-Apr-04 11:49 AM
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 13-Feb-07 11:14 AM, #50
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 13-Feb-07 11:14 AM, #51
Reply you crack me up, laxman, 13-Feb-07 02:58 PM, #52
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, ellen, 13-Feb-07 10:33 AM, #49
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Boldereth, 12-Apr-04 09:42 AM, #47
Reply The way I handle it..., Vladamir, 27-Mar-04 07:22 PM, #28
Reply I hope they change it so they just decline. nt, Cerunnir, 27-Mar-04 07:44 PM, #29
Reply Yeah because actually roleplaying it out is bad for the..., Vladamir, 27-Mar-04 08:09 PM, #30
     Reply It isnt roleplay wise good that Ludan attack you outrig..., Cerunnir, 27-Mar-04 07:53 PM, #31
          Reply Why not?, Vladamir, 27-Mar-04 08:08 PM, #32
               Reply What about. Dispose of his fool, elite dwarven guards. ..., Cerunnir, 27-Mar-04 08:12 PM, #33
Reply on the other hand, incognito, 27-Mar-04 10:21 PM, #34
     Reply Yes but as a paladin I felt obligated not to stereotype..., Vladamir, 28-Mar-04 04:23 PM, #35
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Sevarecan, 26-Mar-04 09:48 PM, #19
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 26-Mar-04 07:43 PM, #17
Reply Agreed (n/t), Valguarnera, 26-Mar-04 11:06 PM, #20
Reply Good to have you back, Isildur. (n/t), Little Timmy (Anonymous), 27-Mar-04 03:46 PM, #27
Reply In CF, the precedent means nothing...so stop using it a..., Wilhath, 26-Mar-04 03:20 PM, #6
Reply Seeking clarity., General_Malaise, 26-Mar-04 03:31 PM, #7
Reply RE: In CF, the precedent means nothing...so stop using ..., Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 05:43 PM, #9
     Reply I don't think playability is an issue., Wilhath, 26-Mar-04 06:22 PM, #10
          Reply RE: I don't think playability is an issue., Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:56 PM, #14
               Reply Generally, yes., Wilhath, 27-Mar-04 11:41 AM, #24
                    Reply RE: Covering wear slots:, Valguarnera, 27-Mar-04 03:16 PM, #26
Reply Beat me to it, here's what was gonna be my post. :P, General_Malaise, 26-Mar-04 02:56 PM, #5
Reply For what it's worth..., nepenthe, 06-Apr-04 09:20 PM, #38
     Reply Out of interest, how did your paladin come to wield, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 07-Apr-04 03:52 AM, #39
     Reply RE: Out of interest, how did your paladin come to wield, nepenthe, 07-Apr-04 05:16 PM, #41
     Reply Who cares?, Moridin, 07-Apr-04 07:36 AM, #43
          Reply Why was my answer deleted but his false accusation left..., Evil Genius (Anonymous), 08-Apr-04 03:25 AM, #44
               Reply Text enclosed., Valguarnera, 08-Apr-04 03:52 AM, #46
                    Reply RE: Text enclosed., Moridin, 14-Apr-04 03:52 PM, #48
     Reply How about requesting from neutrals?, General_Malaise, 07-Apr-04 09:15 AM, #40
          Reply RE: How about requesting from neutrals?, nepenthe, 07-Apr-04 05:33 PM, #42
               Reply That's all..., General_Malaise, 08-Apr-04 02:08 PM, #45
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Valguarnera, 26-Mar-04 12:56 PM, #3
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Beer, 26-Mar-04 02:47 PM, #4
Reply Quick question, General_Malaise, 26-Mar-04 03:36 PM, #8
Reply RE: Quick question, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:29 PM, #12
Reply RE: Elite dwarven guards., Valguarnera, 26-Mar-04 11:10 PM, #21
     Reply How about requesting from neutrals?, General_Malaise, 29-Mar-04 10:24 AM, #36
          Reply Why not have neutrals not attack, just evils?, Cassman, 29-Mar-04 04:48 PM, #37
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:27 PM, #11
     Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 27-Mar-04 12:27 AM, #22
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, incognito, 26-Mar-04 12:32 PM, #2
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, shokai, 26-Mar-04 12:30 PM #1
     Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:42 PM, #13
     Reply Play and evil character. Then come back to us., Cerunnir, 26-Mar-04 07:23 PM, #15
          Reply Playing Evil, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 07:40 PM, #16
               Reply Ok, paladins cant kill neutrals., Cerunnir, 26-Mar-04 09:08 PM, #18
               Reply balance and game mechanics are linked, incognito, 27-Mar-04 02:23 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 27-Mar-04 12:38 AM, #23
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