Another 15 minutes on part 3 (That's 1 hour & 15 minutes for those keeping score at home).

9:35 p.m.

>EXP PEN:
>Now I can understand how sickly this can be in "tweaking" ,
>balancing races and their perks/negs along with their xp cost
>isnt nothing easy. However I think that Some aspects need to
>be looked into, not only relevant to the races but how the
>whole game has affects on those races.
>
>Fore example: Most races have a vuln, some have two or more.
>There are many many items in the game that remove the bulk of
>those vulns, however there are still races that have vulns
>that cannot be covered. There is a arsenal of weapons for many
>damage types however there are a few vulns that there are few
>weapons for, why is this?

Because we haven't designed them.

>Is it a intentional inbalance, are
>you blissfully unaware of such inbalances.

It isn't intentional. I also don't think it's that big of a deal.

>Or is the staff
>lacking builders to create chessy items for said "gaps".

We don't see them as gaps like you do. There doesn't need to be at least one weapon of each type with every damage type. We build weapons that make sense with the area we've designed, not because the game needs an acidic bite polearm.

>Perks and vulns in reguards to xp pen:
>Personaly xp pen doesnt bother me one bit.

But you're willing to make a 30 line argument about it.

>I live purely for the pk ar hero range.
>It means that I dont plan to prowl for
>pk targets 8 levels below me . That aside, Yes I have to
>spend more time leveling, which is boring as hell.. but part
>of the game and it forces you to put yourself in a position to
>be pked (which is always good ). However I think that a
>review needs to be preformed on a few races in reguards to
>perks/vulns/inherents/stats and xp pen.

So much for not bothering you one bit.

>I do not think that
>stats should be changed (I think the imms have a nice balance,
>perhaps a tweak or two.)

Score a second point for the Immortals.

>But they sure as hell should be
>accounted for them when looking at the overall process. If
>there was a race with 25 str/dex/con, and a 250 xp pen, people
>would laugh, but if it had a 2500 xp pen, people might think
>differently.

I doubt you'll ever see a race or class with anything over 500 exp penalty. One of the reasons I don't see a big difference in the experiece penalties is that it really doesn't stop anyone from leveling or heroing. If that were the case there'd be all sorts of people stuck in the 20-40 range, and there isn't. The other thing is, the higher experience penalty races are some of the most popular races.

>With current stat influences, certain stats are twice as
>important as others.

To you it might be strength, to someone else it might be con, to someone else it might be int. I don't think any one stat is twice as important as any other stat.

>Certain vulns and perks are extremly
>relevant to these as well. Overall tho, these perks & pens
>have no direct link to the relevant xp pen at all.

They play some factor, but there is no magic formula we plug a racial profile in and come up with experience penalty, no.

>This is a
>oldie and probably will never be changed, but look at cloud
>giants. Vuln neg and holy.. Seriously ####ed up #### right
>there. 2 vulns that cannot be protected against for #### at
>the same time.

Uhm...they can be protected against. You obviously spent to much time figuring out warrior specs & legacies to go actually look for gear that would do this.

>The only bonus all giants have is wielding
>two-handed weapons in 1 hand..
>Which in itself is 100% useless.

100% bash
100% enhanced damage
inherent racial abilities
larger size than most other races
giant resistance

>There is no bonus at all for a weapon that is flaged
>as two_handed. A ave 31 6 6 axe weight 25 is as good as a ave
>31 6 6 weight 25 two-handed axe. Now if two-handed weapons
>gained a 50% bonus (seing as they normally require 2 hands)
>then sure being a giant for being able to wield two-handed
>weapons would be relevant.

Why would anyone gain a bonus to a weapon that is designed to be used in two hands, but they are using it in one hand? Two-handed dedicated storm giant paladins have to use their two-handed weapon in...that's right. Two hands. To get the use of it. Otherwise, it's just a slightly bigger/heavier sword.

>Giant resist is a joke, I mean a
>total joke. The weapon base on this mud is saturated with
>special/elemental damage types which just total negates the
>usefullness of giant resist.

And yet, most all of those are limited (much more so than any other type of weapon), and still lots of people don't have or use them.

>Personaly I think giant resist
>code should be overhauled from its ancient 1990's code to 2000
>and RESIST WEAPON should be exactly that, all melee damage
>should be filtered through it.

A possibility, but I've got other more interesting things to work on.

>Would this inturn require a
>alteraction to xp pen, or other perks.

I doubt it.

> Perhaps. Would this
>balance things up for having such a shocking low dex and int &
>wis that you have to piss hundreds of hours down the drain
>practicing skills... probably.

You have to piss away. Nobody is holding a gun to your head.

9:50 p.m.

>Moving on.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!