Dwoggurd | Sun 04-May-08 05:23 PM |
Member since 20th Jan 2004
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#21290, "Just to point out"
Edited on Sun 04-May-08 05:29 PM
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Looking at raw pk score isn't very accurate way to estimate the balance. Well, it's accurate if you are trying to balance number of kills/deaths and only for this. But a large part of pk is left out of this window. In general, str builds are much better at nailing kills, so if a stsf elf has the same number of kills/deaths as a fire/avalance/sword that usually means he won (killed or made his foe to run) many more fights that the giant.
While many don't consider making an opponent to flee as an achievement, I would argue about it, because it could mean that: 1) You lose your cabal item. 2) You failed to retrieve. 3) You escaped leaving your group to die. 4) etc. For example, a necromancer usually has more kills than a paladin (and probably less loses too), still I don't necessary agree that paladins are weak. If you will balance the number of kills for a necromancer and a paladin, then probably paladins will become too beastly. Using this analogy: if a stsf elf and avalache giant have the same number of kills, that doesn't necessary means that they are somewhat balanced in power.
Also, raw pk score doesn't reflect many other factors like: cabal, alignment, ganging, additinal powers, current set of foes, style, rp restirictions at killing, etc. So when you look only at people with large number of wins and small number of losses you are at risk of gathering inofrmation only about a portion of players that have similarly favorable set of factors for their current character, leaving any other build/cabal/style combinations out of the review.
Not that I have a detailed methodology ready So your short observation is still better than nothing. Just pointing out the limitations of it.
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A message supporting dex builds
[View all] , Valkenar, Wed 30-Apr-08 02:01 PM
I disagree,
Greddarh,
30-Apr-08 11:15 PM, #1
RE: I disagree,
Daevryn,
30-Apr-08 11:50 PM, #2
Yea. Question to you inside,
Greddarh,
01-May-08 12:06 AM, #3
RE: Yea. Question to you inside,
Daevryn,
01-May-08 12:04 AM, #4
ouch,
Greddarh,
01-May-08 12:10 AM, #5
Elf Shadows Warrior bashing fire giant AP,
JMCC,
01-May-08 01:58 AM, #6
RE: Elf Shadows Warrior bashing fire giant AP,
Valguarnera,
01-May-08 06:32 AM, #7
I've been told by several players,
Dwoggurd,
01-May-08 03:07 PM, #8
RE: I've been told by several players,
Valguarnera,
01-May-08 05:26 PM, #10
Honestly, since I know you are the best with this type ...,
TheLastMohican,
01-May-08 07:01 PM, #12
I really didn't want to say anything but...,
Kalageadon,
05-May-08 11:00 AM, #43
I don't have access to the code,
JMCC,
01-May-08 05:14 PM, #9
RE: I don't have access to the code,
Daevryn,
01-May-08 06:01 PM, #11
This is the complete opposite of what I had always been...,
TheLastMohican,
01-May-08 07:20 PM, #13
RE: This is the complete opposite of what I had always ...,
Daevryn,
01-May-08 08:23 PM, #14
RE: I disagree,
Valkenar,
02-May-08 01:19 PM, #15
I'm sorry to say that but you are teaching wrong person,
Greddarh,
02-May-08 08:39 PM, #16
Come on,
Valkenar,
02-May-08 09:33 PM, #17
Since you obviously don't know what you are talking abo...,
TheLastMohican,
03-May-08 01:33 PM, #18
RE: Since you obviously don't know what you are talking...,
Daevryn,
04-May-08 12:59 AM, #24
Wherein I concede you have made a very good point...,
TheLastMohican,
04-May-08 03:14 AM, #25
Elf/drow aren't that bad.,
Dwoggurd,
04-May-08 01:08 PM, #28
What?,
Eskelian,
05-May-08 02:43 AM, #38
RE: What?,
Isildur,
05-May-08 11:23 AM, #44
Theorycrafting!,
Daevryn,
05-May-08 08:01 PM, #45
RE: Elf/drow aren't that bad.,
Daevryn,
05-May-08 03:02 AM, #41
Except that is not balance,
RobDarken,
03-May-08 04:12 PM, #19
Yea but,
Greddarh,
03-May-08 05:34 PM, #20
Well, should low int be a bigger penalty than simply ta...,
Theerkla,
03-May-08 07:37 PM, #21
WTF? I never said the dex changes were alright.,
RobDarken,
03-May-08 07:46 PM, #22
RE: Except that is not balance,
Isildur,
03-May-08 08:00 PM, #23
RE: Except that is not balance,
Eskelian,
04-May-08 09:46 AM, #26
Uh dude.,
RobDarken,
04-May-08 12:18 PM, #27
I've played what? Two hero warriors in the last 10 year...,
Eskelian,
04-May-08 02:55 PM, #29
RE: Uh dude.,
Valguarnera,
04-May-08 05:02 PM, #30
Just to point out,
Dwoggurd,
04-May-08 05:29 PM #31
RE: Just to point out,
Eskelian,
05-May-08 02:48 AM, #39
Shameless horn tooting,
Mekantos,
04-May-08 07:21 PM, #32
Just another face in the crowd, bro.,
Dallevian,
04-May-08 09:51 PM, #33
Not to taunt you or anything, but...,
Daevryn,
04-May-08 10:11 PM, #34
You're kinda biased about Iramath since he raped your f...,
TheLastMohican,
04-May-08 10:55 PM, #35
RE: You're kinda biased about Iramath since he raped yo...,
Daevryn,
05-May-08 02:56 AM, #40
You could be right. I just thought you were the badass...,
TheLastMohican,
05-May-08 03:26 AM, #42
QHCF.nets uber rankings state otherwise....,
GinGa,
05-May-08 12:17 AM, #36
No worries,
Mekantos,
05-May-08 12:29 AM, #37
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