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#9275, "My comments"
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I have played four hero ranged conjurers so I will throw in my few cents.
Demons,
I would use the harmentia and mors-gravis about 50:50. The harmentia is very useful for fighting certain kinds of mobs, mors is for rest of the time.
I would not use the morosa even if the chain was reduced. Any hp loss from my demon is unacceptable. I would also not use the chally, why would you pick a demon that could turn? It just aint going to happen.
Devils,
I don’t know why people complain, devils are decent, it is no excuse to say that fights are too short, you should bring your own resistances to the fight. Conjurers need longer fights. I would actually like to see barrier and aura scrapped from devils and replaced with something that can complement your existing barrier and aura wands. And I would however like to see the % chance of top devil vs weak devil improved. The black abashi is virtually useless. In contrast the weak archon is still decent.
Pk balance,
I consider evil conjurers to be balanced in terms of pking. They simply require a bit more skill to pull off, but are great if you do it.
Mob deaths,
This is the annoying part. Any other mage I can place many trains in to hp, but conjurers you need to save for con. The only way to completely avoid mob deaths is to overbind all the time which is not feasible. The second problem is the window of flee and return is very small. To early and the mob re-attacks, too late and your mobs leave. It is very easy to gain a mob death if you get a little lazy or just take a very bad round. This is why the harmentia is good, but it’s limited to align, I would like to see another demon attack evil mobs.
Regen,
My previous conjurers relied on the twilight and the troll which made playing a conjurer very enjoyable. Now the easy access slow wand makes conjurers acceptable. The moment that wand is not in the game, conjurers are not feasible. I am not sure that the feasibility of a class should rely totally on the presence of 1 item.
Familiars,
Evil Conjurer needs the raven, I will only play a conjurer that has the raven. Nightgaunt is a big part of the evil conjurers pking style and you need the raven to rule out cabal presence. I would like to try other familiars but the only way it will be worth it is if nightgaunt is changed.
Nightgaunt,
This is well balanced and I like the succumb option. However, to fix the problem above, I’d like either cabals/across continent not to protect them. I think only under water and explore areas should have protection.
Clairvoyance/clairaud
That is good that you have made this easier. This was certain death to the solo evil conjurer.
Elementals
Cheers to making elementals better for levelling.
Overall
I think evil conjurers are decent characters, but not for the beginners. I also think a lot of pro’s don’t play conjurers because they are limited. Scarabaeus is brilliant at coming up with ideas, but lacks the fighting mechanics. By this I mean conjurers have limited choices in fights, missile, lash, murder, dispel, zap. However, all the other chars have many choices so I think it is fine to have this unique class. Just pointing out a reason why some people don’t play them.
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Conjurer Summer Cleaning!
[View all] , nepenthe, Thu 23-Jun-05 12:55 AM
im curious,,
rulanit,
25-Aug-05 02:09 AM, #78
RE: im curious,,
nepenthe,
25-Aug-05 07:10 AM, #79
Another conjie idea.,
Pocomax,
07-Aug-05 12:04 PM, #77
I was thinking...,
rulanit,
02-Aug-05 12:47 PM, #76
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Isengrim,
16-Jul-05 11:07 PM, #72
Demons and devils and mongoose, oh my!,
nepenthe,
17-Jul-05 10:33 PM, #73
Crazy ideas.,
Mekantos,
15-Jul-05 04:12 PM, #65
You've got some seriously good points,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:18 PM, #66
Woah, wait, I just had an epiphany,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:23 PM, #67
Erm..,
Valguarnera,
15-Jul-05 05:29 PM, #68
Thought they were summoned.,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:37 PM, #71
Oooh, ooh!,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 05:36 PM, #70
RE: Crazy ideas.,
nepenthe,
15-Jul-05 05:33 PM, #69
I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor make a...,
incognito,
13-Jul-05 02:13 PM, #49
RE: I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor ma...,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 02:28 PM, #50
I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts,
incognito,
13-Jul-05 07:57 PM, #52
RE: I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts,
SPN,
14-Jul-05 12:02 AM, #53
They worked well for me,
incognito,
14-Jul-05 02:30 AM, #56
you know what kills me?,
rulanit,
14-Jul-05 01:09 AM, #55
Alternatively..,
Balrahd,
14-Jul-05 11:30 AM, #57
What I always wondered...,
Aodh,
14-Jul-05 03:09 PM, #58
RE: What I always wondered...,
nepenthe,
14-Jul-05 03:18 PM, #59
The capricious expert abductors,
SPN,
14-Jul-05 11:53 PM, #61
Cool... so lets make...,
GinGa,
15-Jul-05 02:43 PM, #63
RE: What I always wondered...,
nebel,
14-Jul-05 04:19 PM, #60
bit of both, but,
incognito,
15-Jul-05 01:48 AM, #62
You seriously think nightgaunts are overpowered for goo...,
KoeKhaos,
15-Jul-05 02:49 PM, #64
Try playing an ap, and not being gaunted when you are a...,
incognito,
18-Jul-05 04:13 AM, #74
Totally agree,
Narissa,
18-Jul-05 05:40 AM, #75
My comments,
Perma Evil Mage,
30-Jun-05 11:29 PM #46
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Jhyrbian,
30-Jun-05 09:12 PM, #45
Any chance of getting your familiar earlier?,
Wilhath,
30-Jun-05 06:03 PM, #43
Ideas for Angels,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #41
Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:,
nepenthe,
29-Jun-05 10:58 PM, #31
Morosa, because...,
GinGa,
30-Jun-05 05:19 AM, #34
Morosa, Mors Gravis,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 11:14 AM, #35
RE: Morosa, Mors Gravis,
nepenthe,
30-Jun-05 12:23 PM, #38
RE: Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:,
Brian S,
30-Jun-05 12:07 PM, #36
Lots of codeing for the Harmentia, but I like it. nt,
SPN,
30-Jun-05 12:15 PM, #37
Just my pros and cons list.,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 12:53 PM, #39
RE: Just my pros and cons list.,
Mekantos,
30-Jun-05 05:44 PM, #42
I agree and a note.,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 08:29 PM, #44
I agree totally, this has kept me from playing higher t...,
rulanit,
14-Jul-05 01:00 AM, #54
Challegha Demon Idea & My Answer,
wretchedmongrel,
01-Jul-05 12:01 AM, #47
Some more:,
nepenthe,
27-Jun-05 10:23 AM, #26
Marry me, Neppy? (~),
vargal,
27-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #27
RE: Some more:,
Splntrd,
27-Jun-05 02:34 PM, #28
RE: Some more:,
Isildur,
29-Jun-05 11:52 PM, #32
RE: Some more:,
nepenthe,
30-Jun-05 12:44 AM, #33
A buggish thing I've been meaning to report on this cla...,
jasmin,
26-Jun-05 06:04 PM, #25
One more cosmetic request for Nepenthe,
jasmin,
25-Jun-05 09:35 PM, #23
Great job.,
Alhambra,
23-Jun-05 07:51 PM, #15
RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!,
Isildur,
23-Jun-05 04:12 PM, #11
Thank you.,
Aiekooso,
23-Jun-05 03:49 PM, #9
Devils,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #10
Maybe one extra spell to give people a *chance*,
jasmin,
23-Jun-05 05:37 PM, #12
A Devil Idea...,
wretchedmongrel,
23-Jun-05 06:21 PM, #13
RE: Devils,
Aiekooso,
23-Jun-05 08:33 PM, #16
Whoops.,
Aiekooso,
24-Jun-05 06:23 PM, #18
RE: Devils,
vargal,
24-Jun-05 06:45 PM, #19
RE: Devils,
DurNominator,
25-Jun-05 04:55 AM, #22
FYI:,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 01:27 PM, #48
Angels!,
nepenthe,
13-Jul-05 02:34 PM, #51
Your the man!,
jasmin,
23-Jun-05 09:02 AM, #4
Sounds hard to fix...,
GinGa,
23-Jun-05 09:04 AM, #5
I hereby declare bouncers someone else's problem.,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 09:31 AM, #6
For coding excellence, I award Nepenthe Miss Carrionfie...,
GinGa,
25-Jun-05 04:39 AM, #21
Nep is a guy :-) n/t,
Sandello,
29-Jun-05 03:35 PM, #29
This is true, but,
nepenthe,
29-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #30
Do you sense a blackjack or summon/sleep coming on or w...,
Tharena,
27-Aug-05 09:10 AM, #80
I like the limitations on conjurers in the Inn. nt,
Splntrd,
24-Jun-05 04:49 PM, #17
If that was all, I would agree.,
jasmin,
24-Jun-05 11:02 PM, #20
Ah, I didn't realize.,
Splntrd,
26-Jun-05 12:12 AM, #24
Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
GinGa,
23-Jun-05 09:01 AM, #3
RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
nepenthe,
23-Jun-05 09:32 AM, #7
yes, they are that hard to beat,
incognito,
23-Jun-05 10:16 AM, #8
Those vampires are bitches.,
wretchedmongrel,
23-Jun-05 06:26 PM, #14
RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?,
Eskelian,
30-Jun-05 01:01 PM, #40
Thumbs UP,
ORB,
23-Jun-05 01:07 AM, #1
Totally second-ed,
Narissa,
23-Jun-05 02:21 AM, #2
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