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nepentheThu 23-Jun-05 12:55 AM
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#9154, "Conjurer Summer Cleaning!"


          

I'm tossing this here for the moment rather than announcements because it's still a work in progress and I anticipate a certain amount of discussion. How jackassed this discussion becomes probably will determine if I repeat this experiment soon.

I've been doing some conjurer tweaking tonight, which will be showing up in a crash/reboot near you sometime soon. Here's the gist of it:

1) Familiars. The familiars that should be out and with the conjurer in dangerous situations have been improved slightly more with respect to how much of a beating they can take. Saves against faerie dragon faeriefog and imp impcurse are a little harder than they used to be. I'm toying with the idea of letting familiars in the room with their master share protective spells cast upon him for free, but I don't know that this is all that necessary.

2) Elementals. A new elem command available to all four kinds of elementals, noarea, will let you tell your elemental that you don't want it using its area attack spell-like ability anymore. This is not a toggle (once you tell it noarea, it's done for the life of the elemental), and it won't execute other special attacks in the place of the earthquakes it's not doing, etc. This is another option for conjurers; you certainly don't need to take it if you don't think this is a good option.

I want to evaluate the balance effects of elementals not 100% predictably getting themselves killed by area'ing in certain situations before I consider taking this any further, and I've learned the hard way it's easier to give a little and then a little more later than to give a lot and need to take some of it back later.

3) Morosa demons. Their chain lightning should be a little less obnoxious.

4) Challegha demons. These demons, if pleased with their masters, will be less (note: that's 'less', not 'not') inclined to attack their master or his allies if they are wounded.



That's where it sits right now. Also on my list and more likely to be a more gradual project is tweaking devil AI. The spells they cast won't likely change; their strategy for picking them likely will, making them more effective in some situations and perhaps less in others (nothing's perfect, and we've all watched an archon do something dumb rather than save a conjurer's life on occasion). As one particular example, I don't feel that devils do enough for an orderly neutral conjurer, for whom binding a devil should be one of his top choices, all things being equal (which they never are, but let's pretend.)

Other changes of grander scope, such as splitting angels to work and be chosen like demons, are beyond the time I intend to divert from a somewhat bigger project right now.

  

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HOT TopicConjurer Summer Cleaning! [View all] , nepenthe, Thu 23-Jun-05 12:55 AM
Reply im curious,, rulanit, 25-Aug-05 02:09 AM, #78
Reply RE: im curious,, nepenthe, 25-Aug-05 07:10 AM, #79
Reply Another conjie idea., Pocomax, 07-Aug-05 12:04 PM, #77
Reply I was thinking..., rulanit, 02-Aug-05 12:47 PM, #76
Reply RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!, Isengrim, 16-Jul-05 11:07 PM, #72
Reply Demons and devils and mongoose, oh my!, nepenthe, 17-Jul-05 10:33 PM, #73
Reply Crazy ideas., Mekantos, 15-Jul-05 04:12 PM, #65
Reply You've got some seriously good points, GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:18 PM, #66
Reply Woah, wait, I just had an epiphany, GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:23 PM, #67
     Reply Erm.., Valguarnera, 15-Jul-05 05:29 PM, #68
     Reply Thought they were summoned., GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:37 PM, #71
     Reply Oooh, ooh!, GinGa, 15-Jul-05 05:36 PM, #70
Reply RE: Crazy ideas., nepenthe, 15-Jul-05 05:33 PM, #69
Reply I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor make a..., incognito, 13-Jul-05 02:13 PM, #49
Reply RE: I'd like to see each calling of an evil servitor ma..., nepenthe, 13-Jul-05 02:28 PM, #50
Reply I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts, incognito, 13-Jul-05 07:57 PM, #52
Reply RE: I was primarily thinking of nightgaunts, SPN, 14-Jul-05 12:02 AM, #53
     Reply They worked well for me, incognito, 14-Jul-05 02:30 AM, #56
Reply you know what kills me?, rulanit, 14-Jul-05 01:09 AM, #55
Reply Alternatively.., Balrahd, 14-Jul-05 11:30 AM, #57
     Reply What I always wondered..., Aodh, 14-Jul-05 03:09 PM, #58
     Reply RE: What I always wondered..., nepenthe, 14-Jul-05 03:18 PM, #59
     Reply The capricious expert abductors, SPN, 14-Jul-05 11:53 PM, #61
          Reply Cool... so lets make..., GinGa, 15-Jul-05 02:43 PM, #63
     Reply RE: What I always wondered..., nebel, 14-Jul-05 04:19 PM, #60
     Reply bit of both, but, incognito, 15-Jul-05 01:48 AM, #62
          Reply You seriously think nightgaunts are overpowered for goo..., KoeKhaos, 15-Jul-05 02:49 PM, #64
               Reply Try playing an ap, and not being gaunted when you are a..., incognito, 18-Jul-05 04:13 AM, #74
                    Reply Totally agree, Narissa, 18-Jul-05 05:40 AM, #75
Reply My comments, Perma Evil Mage, 30-Jun-05 11:29 PM, #46
Reply RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!, Jhyrbian, 30-Jun-05 09:12 PM, #45
Reply Any chance of getting your familiar earlier?, Wilhath, 30-Jun-05 06:03 PM, #43
Reply Ideas for Angels, SPN, 30-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #41
Reply Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:, nepenthe, 29-Jun-05 10:58 PM, #31
Reply Morosa, because..., GinGa, 30-Jun-05 05:19 AM, #34
Reply Morosa, Mors Gravis, SPN, 30-Jun-05 11:14 AM, #35
Reply RE: Morosa, Mors Gravis, nepenthe, 30-Jun-05 12:23 PM, #38
Reply RE: Demon Question for Conjurer Vets:, Brian S, 30-Jun-05 12:07 PM, #36
Reply Lots of codeing for the Harmentia, but I like it. nt, SPN, 30-Jun-05 12:15 PM, #37
Reply Just my pros and cons list., Eskelian, 30-Jun-05 12:53 PM, #39
Reply RE: Just my pros and cons list., Mekantos, 30-Jun-05 05:44 PM, #42
     Reply I agree and a note., Eskelian, 30-Jun-05 08:29 PM, #44
     Reply I agree totally, this has kept me from playing higher t..., rulanit, 14-Jul-05 01:00 AM, #54
Reply Challegha Demon Idea & My Answer, wretchedmongrel, 01-Jul-05 12:01 AM, #47
Reply Some more:, nepenthe, 27-Jun-05 10:23 AM, #26
Reply Marry me, Neppy? (~), vargal, 27-Jun-05 01:07 PM, #27
Reply RE: Some more:, Splntrd, 27-Jun-05 02:34 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Some more:, Isildur, 29-Jun-05 11:52 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Some more:, nepenthe, 30-Jun-05 12:44 AM, #33
Reply A buggish thing I've been meaning to report on this cla..., jasmin, 26-Jun-05 06:04 PM, #25
Reply One more cosmetic request for Nepenthe, jasmin, 25-Jun-05 09:35 PM, #23
Reply Great job., Alhambra, 23-Jun-05 07:51 PM, #15
Reply RE: Conjurer Summer Cleaning!, Isildur, 23-Jun-05 04:12 PM, #11
Reply Thank you., Aiekooso, 23-Jun-05 03:49 PM, #9
Reply Devils, nepenthe, 23-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #10
     Reply Maybe one extra spell to give people a *chance*, jasmin, 23-Jun-05 05:37 PM, #12
     Reply A Devil Idea..., wretchedmongrel, 23-Jun-05 06:21 PM, #13
     Reply RE: Devils, Aiekooso, 23-Jun-05 08:33 PM, #16
     Reply Whoops., Aiekooso, 24-Jun-05 06:23 PM, #18
     Reply RE: Devils, vargal, 24-Jun-05 06:45 PM, #19
     Reply RE: Devils, DurNominator, 25-Jun-05 04:55 AM, #22
     Reply FYI:, nepenthe, 13-Jul-05 01:27 PM, #48
          Reply Angels!, nepenthe, 13-Jul-05 02:34 PM, #51
Reply Your the man!, jasmin, 23-Jun-05 09:02 AM, #4
Reply Sounds hard to fix..., GinGa, 23-Jun-05 09:04 AM, #5
Reply I hereby declare bouncers someone else's problem., nepenthe, 23-Jun-05 09:31 AM, #6
Reply For coding excellence, I award Nepenthe Miss Carrionfie..., GinGa, 25-Jun-05 04:39 AM, #21
     Reply Nep is a guy :-) n/t, Sandello, 29-Jun-05 03:35 PM, #29
          Reply This is true, but, nepenthe, 29-Jun-05 03:58 PM, #30
               Reply Do you sense a blackjack or summon/sleep coming on or w..., Tharena, 27-Aug-05 09:10 AM, #80
Reply I like the limitations on conjurers in the Inn. nt, Splntrd, 24-Jun-05 04:49 PM, #17
     Reply If that was all, I would agree., jasmin, 24-Jun-05 11:02 PM, #20
          Reply Ah, I didn't realize., Splntrd, 26-Jun-05 12:12 AM, #24
Reply Got a tweak for those damned vampires?, GinGa, 23-Jun-05 09:01 AM, #3
Reply RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?, nepenthe, 23-Jun-05 09:32 AM, #7
     Reply yes, they are that hard to beat, incognito, 23-Jun-05 10:16 AM, #8
     Reply Those vampires are bitches., wretchedmongrel, 23-Jun-05 06:26 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Got a tweak for those damned vampires?, Eskelian, 30-Jun-05 01:01 PM, #40
Reply Thumbs UP, ORB, 23-Jun-05 01:07 AM, #1
     Reply Totally second-ed, Narissa, 23-Jun-05 02:21 AM, #2
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