Umiron | Tue 12-Jul-16 01:55 PM |
Member since 29th May 2017
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#64048, "RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards."
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>I just don't get why, when a majority of people come with >ideas they are all shot down because YOU or the IMMs aren't a >fan of the ideas. I mean votes, polls, are non existent? >Considering that it is something for the player base which we >all see is dwindling. I don't know why it's always an >iron-fist with IMM's about anything being changed or looked >at.
Dallevian isn't wrong. We're all chasing fun. For players, that means choosing whether to play CF or something else, managing the expectations, and others things. For the staff, it (usually) means balancing other people's fun with their own because oftentimes their fun is derived from that of others. Which is to say that most of us enjoy CF more when, and perhaps only if, it has enough (some subjective amount of) players. On the other hand, we have to also prioritize our own happiness in working on CF otherwise it doesn't make sense to do it at all, which means no CF. Because CF isn't a product and we're not getting paid, the only motivation to contribute is fun, and building someone else's vision when that vision doesn't match one's own is probably not fun. For 22 years now the proposition hasn't changed: we build the kind of game that appeals to us and hope other people enjoy it too. It's a little more complicated than that, but sans the sugarcoating that's basically the crux of it.
So there's that.
Also, you're taking one example and using it as a foundation to assert that we unilaterally ignore players and their feedback, which isn't true. We've changed or implemented a lot of things based on player-submitted ideas and feedback, include some very favorable changes to skill learning and experience. IIRC, the item search (and later upping it's level ceiling) was a player idea, and I'm sure I could come up with many more without even dipping into Santa Zulg.
If a dozen players demanded we let them start at level 51 or allow them to load equipment citing that it would "reduce the grind" or make the game more fun we would say no over and over, no matter how many times they asked. If your assertion is that somehow means we're tyrannical or unreadable then I guess I'll have to get used to your disappointment.
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Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards.
[View all] , Sarien, Tue 12-Jul-16 12:11 PM
The nice things are strictly rationed in today's CF.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 01:41 AM, #23
RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards.,
Umiron,
12-Jul-16 12:54 PM, #1
RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards.,
LoverofCF (Anonymous),
12-Jul-16 01:12 PM, #2
who does the work?,
Dallevian,
12-Jul-16 01:23 PM, #3
I'd do it. n/t,
Saagkri,
12-Jul-16 01:48 PM, #6
You know how/where to apply to the staff nt,
Destuvius,
12-Jul-16 05:12 PM, #10
I'd do it.,
Murphy,
12-Jul-16 06:46 PM, #11
RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards.,
Umiron,
12-Jul-16 01:55 PM #7
RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards.,
LoverofCF (Anonymous),
12-Jul-16 02:59 PM, #9
It's not just player ideas.,
Jormyr,
12-Jul-16 10:55 PM, #15
Start passing the hat around for a new keyboard. ,
Demos,
12-Jul-16 10:28 PM, #18
Followup - Your cookie cutter comment.,
Sarien,
12-Jul-16 01:25 PM, #4
RE: Followup - Your cookie cutter comment.,
Umiron,
12-Jul-16 01:36 PM, #5
RE: Followup - Your cookie cutter comment.,
TJHuron,
12-Jul-16 02:06 PM, #8
Bards are no longer my favorite class,
Murphy,
12-Jul-16 06:50 PM, #12
That was actually the one class I had in mind when maki...,
TJHuron,
12-Jul-16 07:40 PM, #13
Bards still are my fav. class,
lasentia,
13-Jul-16 07:05 AM, #25
I'm not revealing any of my secrets.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 07:58 AM, #26
I would trade every edge I could get for bash protectio...,
lasentia,
13-Jul-16 10:08 AM, #29
Dude, you don't understand Murph. He needs at least 15...,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 06:52 PM, #38
You know nothing, Same.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 07:44 PM, #47
Play a centaur bard.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 08:47 PM, #53
I think you need to know the bard type to answer this,
TJHuron,
13-Jul-16 08:10 AM, #28
RE: I think you need to know the bard type to answer th...,
lasentia,
13-Jul-16 10:35 AM, #30
Well, one can make your argument for any class and edge...,
TJHuron,
13-Jul-16 11:16 AM, #31
I think we do agree,
lasentia,
13-Jul-16 02:57 PM, #32
RE: I think we do agree,
stlucian1992,
13-Jul-16 03:59 PM, #35
Honestly, Perfect Pitch was the only "must have".,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 06:53 PM, #39
Perfect pitch is not required,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 08:21 PM, #52
Ironically, I go entirely the other way.,
Jormyr,
12-Jul-16 07:53 PM, #14
I found a few like that.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 01:38 AM, #22
RE: Ironically, I go entirely the other way.,
Saagkri,
13-Jul-16 08:08 AM, #27
RE: Followup - Your cookie cutter comment.,
Umiron,
12-Jul-16 09:05 PM, #16
Armchair balancing.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 01:38 AM, #21
RE: Armchair balancing.,
Umiron,
13-Jul-16 05:42 PM, #36
This is why I've never applied. =) n/t,
Lhydia,
13-Jul-16 06:43 PM, #37
Not for nothing, but remember Murph is ESL.,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 06:56 PM, #40
"Has ESL", not "is ESL".,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 08:51 PM, #54
ESL = English Speaking Louse,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 09:32 PM, #55
You stinking RLB.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 11:21 PM, #57
Oh I understand,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 07:48 PM, #44
RE: Oh I understand,
Umiron,
13-Jul-16 07:46 PM, #48
One caveat here,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 08:00 PM, #49
RE: One caveat here,
Umiron,
13-Jul-16 08:09 PM, #50
I judge from my own experience,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 08:16 PM, #51
This made my night!,
SPN,
12-Jul-16 11:06 PM, #19
In practice, there are huge gamechanger edges,
Sertius,
13-Jul-16 03:21 PM, #33
Buki edges are super cheap.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 03:29 PM, #34
Hey! I came up with that regen in forest's better edge...,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 06:57 PM, #41
RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards.,
Bemused,
12-Jul-16 09:17 PM, #17
Plenty of edge points is what allows one to NOT min-max...,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 01:35 AM, #20
No, your ass broke it with your 32 edged-character. FF...,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 06:59 PM, #42
31-edged.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 07:42 PM, #45
Edge popularity doesn't measure strength or usefulness.,
KaguMaru,
13-Jul-16 05:40 AM, #24
They've been scarce for all of 6 months or so.,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 07:01 PM, #43
30 edges is fine and it never hurt the game.,
Murphy,
13-Jul-16 07:43 PM, #46
My funstick disagrees.,
TMNS,
13-Jul-16 09:33 PM, #56
RC rewards:,
Iunna,
14-Jul-16 03:16 PM, #61
Nah, throw them a minor power.,
TMNS,
14-Jul-16 06:21 PM, #62
Yeah but that sounds boring.,
Iunna,
14-Jul-16 06:40 PM, #63
RE: Yeah but that sounds boring.,
Umiron,
14-Jul-16 06:47 PM, #64
The fact that you actually had 7 legacies makes it sort...,
Lhydia,
14-Jul-16 09:18 PM, #65
They were scarce before and experimenting with uknown e...,
KaguMaru,
16-Jul-16 05:02 AM, #67
Two ideas.,
Shapa,
14-Jul-16 01:44 AM, #58
RE: Two ideas.,
Umiron,
14-Jul-16 06:35 AM, #59
I have a counter suggestion,
Kstatida,
14-Jul-16 07:54 AM, #60
RE: I have a counter suggestion,
Shapa,
14-Jul-16 09:36 PM, #66
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