Sertius | Fri 11-Dec-15 09:26 PM |
Member since 17th Nov 2008
360 posts
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#61908, "I'll bite"
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I've played around five serious hero chars in the past 12 months, all caballed, generally with 2k+ Imm xp (new style,) some noticeable, some not. What I did notice is the halving of edge exploration/observation did produce a grind effect to the edges no matter the class and the goals of the char.
While previously I have made no specific effort to produce 10-15K exp/obs by hero and was generally fine without having to grind it out or even think about it, now I do have to consciously keep the edges in mind. There are a set of edges that are pretty much "required" to compete on an even foot and/or make a build convenient and pleasing enough to play. While previously this came with no specific effort by hero, the current situation had an unfortunate Valg effect to it IMHO, i.e. nerfing.
I'm not talking about expecting to have everything out there the second I hit hero with all builds, but having ~1k Imm xp from 3-4 imms, ~1k role xp, ~10-15 obs/exp XP, plus reasonable (per build) PK record should IMHO allow me to pick the set of edges that allow that particular build to compete. For example, if I was gnome warrior, both the edges for gnome warrior, plus all the seasons (Owl) edges plus about two spec edges. And I probably would love to have enough left over to have a choice of extra training if I need it.
What's great about CF is the customization allowed and the edges in my view are a great addition. However, the current setup, especially for some classes (AP and druid for example) does not allow for enough the edges for the type of chars you might want to have around.
Also, examples like smoke and mirrors, seasons warrior edges, shield paladin edges, countless etc should be just rolled into the appropriate class (additional skill or level-based, up to you) since they're obviously a must-have and are probably taken by ~100% of players who understand how things work.
I would also think on expanding the skills in 44-51 range (much like orc skills) to promote less level-sitting, which gets old and does not promote RP (especially for AP and assassins).
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Is it just me?
[View all] , demon, Fri 11-Dec-15 06:12 PM
Any cons to age based edgepoint accumulation?,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 06:36 AM, #41
Just eliminate Obs/Explore already.,
lasentia,
16-Dec-15 08:08 AM, #42
No,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 10:50 AM, #43
There are much better reasons to explore than obs/exp X...,
Homard,
16-Dec-15 11:35 AM, #46
The problem is those incentives don't work that well,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 12:14 PM, #47
RE: No,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 12:31 PM, #48
You will hear a buzzer. When you hear the buzzer, stare...,
Murphy,
16-Dec-15 12:45 PM, #49
RE: No,
Isildur,
16-Dec-15 01:34 PM, #51
Your reasons are totally valid as well,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #52
You argue that everyone should be subject to the grind ...,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 02:42 PM, #53
I argue that obs/exp is a good incentive for new player...,
Kstatida,
17-Dec-15 09:21 AM, #55
Enjoy remaining average at best,
lasentia,
17-Dec-15 07:45 AM, #54
Skill>gear>preps>skill%s>edges,
Kstatida,
17-Dec-15 09:36 AM, #56
RE: Just eliminate Obs/Explore already.,
Isildur,
16-Dec-15 11:08 AM, #44
i use that exp to rank,
laxman,
16-Dec-15 11:20 AM, #45
RE: Is it just me?,
Borkahd,
13-Dec-15 03:18 PM, #31
RE: Is it just me?,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 06:50 AM, #10
Edges,
Saagkri,
12-Dec-15 09:26 AM, #12
RE: Edges,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 09:43 AM, #13
Oops. Speaking generic IMM re: the rewards, not directe...,
Saagkri,
12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #15
Nice cover-up attempt.,
TMNS,
12-Dec-15 10:18 PM, #28
Did I miss something as to who Destuvius is? NT,
Onewingedangel,
14-Dec-15 04:30 PM, #32
No, Sam is just being Sam. (nt),
Umiron,
14-Dec-15 05:05 PM, #33
Ah, figures. ,
Onewingedangel,
14-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #34
Well...who am I supposed to be? NT,
TMNS,
15-Dec-15 12:28 AM, #37
This.,
Murphy,
12-Dec-15 10:48 AM, #17
RE: Is it just me?,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #16
Edges are one of the stupidest CF ideas ever. NT,
TMNS,
12-Dec-15 02:00 AM, #6
RE: Is it just me?,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 12:32 AM, #5
Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
-flso,
12-Dec-15 07:49 AM, #11
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 10:22 AM, #14
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 12:25 PM, #18
Probably wants others to experience what he does so the...,
Lhydia,
12-Dec-15 12:56 PM, #19
Just for you...,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 01:02 PM, #20
Hey buddy..lets not bring facts into this argument. <3 ...,
Lhydia,
12-Dec-15 01:23 PM, #23
My bad..,
Destuvius,
13-Dec-15 12:15 PM, #29
RE: Probably wants others to experience what he does so...,
Umiron,
12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #22
Request and question:,
Iunna,
12-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #25
RE: Request and question:,
Umiron,
12-Dec-15 02:14 PM, #26
It's nowhere near consistent.,
Murphy,
12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #21
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 02:16 PM, #27
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 01:13 PM, #50
Not keen,
incognito,
12-Dec-15 01:39 PM, #24
RE: Is it just me?,
Umiron,
11-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #1
RE: Is it just me?,
demon,
11-Dec-15 07:10 PM, #2
I'll bite,
Sertius,
11-Dec-15 09:26 PM #3
Imo,
incognito,
12-Dec-15 03:38 AM, #7
Saying "must have",
incognito,
12-Dec-15 03:43 AM, #8
RE: I'll bite,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 06:43 AM, #9
My take on the Edge dilemma.,
Quixotic,
13-Dec-15 01:48 PM, #30
I think you are wrong in your assumptions,
-flso,
14-Dec-15 07:07 PM, #35
Cyradia's post introducing edges:,
Quixotic,
14-Dec-15 10:28 PM, #36
This wasn't the start of edges though...,
Elerosse,
15-Dec-15 08:45 PM, #38
This guy gets it. n/t,
Eskelian,
15-Dec-15 09:05 PM, #39
RE: I'll bite,
Eskelian,
15-Dec-15 09:07 PM, #40
What edges do you need to compete?,
laxman,
11-Dec-15 10:13 PM, #4
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