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SaagkriTue 06-Jan-15 07:33 AM
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#57673, "Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive"
Edited on Tue 06-Jan-15 08:02 AM

          

I may be wrong, but I assume this was prompted by my log on Dioxide's where Knyst got docked Immxp for reusing a desc.

Like I said in the log, I don't fault the IMM for enforcing the rules and it was a stupid mistake to re-use Gergan's desc. I posted the log because I was second-guessing deleting Kynst.

Also, as someone pointed out, I was still violating the rules by re-using what I thought was the desc from an old low-level char I deleted (even if it hadn't been Gergan).

Every case is different, but I want to clear up some speculation in this case, none of which are meant to excuse the violation nor invalidate the punishment:

1) Gergan was my char and I wrote the desc.
2) I did not intentionally break a rule, but was ignorant of it.
3) I've been playing CF since before the purge and have many hundreds of files with descriptions, roles, maps, logs, etc.
3) My intention was to roll a char, use an old desc no one would remember, and write a new desc/role once I decided to keep the char bevause I thought re-using a desc I put some effort into would be better than walking around with poor desc and I was feeling lazy.

I accepted the punishment politely and just decided that I didn't want to have to overcome the stigma of a rule violation and an IMMxp hole with an 18 hour old char with no role. I wasn't frustrated or angry, just making a reasonable decision based on the following:

1) In my opinion, a competative thief need devious versatility for a wide veriety of enemies. 2XDevious versatility even better for hero range.
2) My best recollection is that my last two caballed chars, Gergan being one, have gotten misc. IMMxp (not counting leadership, tattoo, role, etc.) 3 times in about 700 hours of play (a good raid defense, helping newbies, having a good desc) for a combined total of about 500 IMMxp. So, this is what I was weighing the -250 against.

I think the positive from all this is that people now know the consequence for recycling descriptions and that should seriously curb the behavior.

After reading the responses by the IMMs, I don't see the punishment as excessive. I had no idea people were stealing IP and I would not be happy if someone stole mine. If the IMM can't tell that it was your char, then everyone has to be punished as if it wasn't to discourage the practice. I consider the consequence I bore to be my sacrifice/contribution to this worthy effort.

My only concern is the us v. them mentality that I see throughout this thread. And it goes both ways. We're part of a unique comminuty and I think we all have the perpetuation of CF, while preserving it's essence, as our primary goal, even when we disagree on how to best achieve it. Sometimes I think we lose sight of the big picture.

So, see you in the fields. I mean now. Please log on and sit at Market Square.

Thanks,
Saagkri the Hero of Alteration, Arbiter Lord


p.s. The first time you go to the foreman for payment, he pays you double!

  

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HOT TopicPSA: Descriptions [View all] , Akresius, Mon 05-Jan-15 10:38 PM
Reply Had you never docked imm exp this would never have beco..., TJHuron, 06-Jan-15 01:04 PM, #52
Reply Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive, Saagkri, 06-Jan-15 08:02 AM #46
Reply RE: Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive, Demos, 06-Jan-15 08:06 AM, #47
Reply Good post n/t, TJHuron, 06-Jan-15 12:46 PM, #51
Reply Fine, incognito, 06-Jan-15 05:10 AM, #45
Reply To the players below (let's try a different approach he..., Mendos, 06-Jan-15 02:24 AM, #42
Reply Reward originality., ibuki, 06-Jan-15 03:35 AM, #43
Reply In case it isn't (broadly) known, originality is alread..., Mendos, 06-Jan-15 03:50 AM, #44
Reply Don't look now, Ysaloerye, 06-Jan-15 11:27 AM, #50
Reply RE: To the players below (let's try a different approac..., Tac, 06-Jan-15 09:08 AM, #48
Reply I want to feel bad for you (because you're cool) but I ..., TMNS, 05-Jan-15 09:18 PM, #31
Reply What "arms race" do you refer to?, Mendos, 06-Jan-15 02:21 AM, #41
     Reply Long/short of it.., TMNS, 06-Jan-15 01:24 PM, #53
Reply Descriptions, Umiron, 05-Jan-15 08:24 PM, #30
Reply RE: Descriptions, Tac, 05-Jan-15 08:46 PM, #39
     Reply I don't think your post here is helpful, Humbert, 05-Jan-15 09:37 PM, #32
     Reply RE: I don't think your post here is helpful, Tac, 05-Jan-15 10:01 PM, #34
     Reply RE: I don't think your post here is helpful, Humbert, 05-Jan-15 10:11 PM, #35
     Reply Ineffective., Valguarnera, 05-Jan-15 10:22 PM, #37
          Reply RE: Ineffective., Humbert, 05-Jan-15 10:26 PM, #38
     Reply You guys need to stop, Knac, 05-Jan-15 09:48 PM, #33
          Reply Exactly this. , Humbert, 05-Jan-15 10:21 PM, #36
Reply Immortals are Doing a Great Job, Amora, 05-Jan-15 06:11 PM, #23
Reply Personally..., TheBluestThumb, 05-Jan-15 05:50 PM, #16
Reply I've agreed with every word you've posted in this threa..., Artificial, 05-Jan-15 05:40 PM, #13
Reply Of course you do., Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:13 PM, #24
Reply Over reactions, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 05:37 PM, #11
Reply RE: Over reactions, Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:47 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Over reactions, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:01 PM, #20
Reply It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'enforc..., Lhydia, 05-Jan-15 04:44 PM, #3
Reply RE: It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'en..., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:19 PM, #6
Reply No. And I'd say sorry you're so jaded but the attitude ..., Lhydia, 05-Jan-15 05:19 PM, #9
Reply Rotd & description room, Demos, 05-Jan-15 11:42 PM, #40
Reply RE: It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'en..., Deaer (Anonymous), 05-Jan-15 05:17 PM, #8
Reply Caldysias and Baelen weren't a perma dude. NT, TMNS, 05-Jan-15 05:31 PM, #10
     Reply I didn't catch everyone., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:51 PM, #18
Reply is the juice worth the squeeze, laxman, 05-Jan-15 04:25 PM, #1
     Reply Removing multicharing and permagrouping rules would sav..., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 04:31 PM, #2
          Reply That doesn't really answer the question., Tac, 05-Jan-15 04:51 PM, #4
          Reply I wouldn't think those are good comparisons, laxman, 05-Jan-15 05:01 PM, #5
               Reply An easy way to hand out xp is for solid descriptions., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:15 PM, #7
                    Reply Consequence, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 05:40 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Consequence, Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:49 PM, #15
                         Reply It's not?, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:06 PM, #21
                              Reply There's the disconnect., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 06:22 PM, #25
                                   Reply Not really., Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:34 PM, #26
                                        Reply RE: Not really., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 06:43 PM, #28
                                             Reply For sure., Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 08:14 PM, #29
                    Reply RE: An easy way to hand out xp is for solid description..., Knac, 05-Jan-15 05:50 PM, #17
                    Reply RE: An easy way to hand out xp is for solid description..., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:55 PM, #19
                    Reply To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much., Deaer (Anonymous), 05-Jan-15 06:10 PM, #22
                         Reply RE: To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much., Knac, 05-Jan-15 06:34 PM, #27
                    Reply This is rather relevatory, laxman, 06-Jan-15 10:41 AM, #49
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