Saagkri | Tue 06-Jan-15 07:33 AM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#57673, "Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive"
Edited on Tue 06-Jan-15 08:02 AM
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I may be wrong, but I assume this was prompted by my log on Dioxide's where Knyst got docked Immxp for reusing a desc.
Like I said in the log, I don't fault the IMM for enforcing the rules and it was a stupid mistake to re-use Gergan's desc. I posted the log because I was second-guessing deleting Kynst.
Also, as someone pointed out, I was still violating the rules by re-using what I thought was the desc from an old low-level char I deleted (even if it hadn't been Gergan).
Every case is different, but I want to clear up some speculation in this case, none of which are meant to excuse the violation nor invalidate the punishment:
1) Gergan was my char and I wrote the desc. 2) I did not intentionally break a rule, but was ignorant of it. 3) I've been playing CF since before the purge and have many hundreds of files with descriptions, roles, maps, logs, etc. 3) My intention was to roll a char, use an old desc no one would remember, and write a new desc/role once I decided to keep the char bevause I thought re-using a desc I put some effort into would be better than walking around with poor desc and I was feeling lazy.
I accepted the punishment politely and just decided that I didn't want to have to overcome the stigma of a rule violation and an IMMxp hole with an 18 hour old char with no role. I wasn't frustrated or angry, just making a reasonable decision based on the following:
1) In my opinion, a competative thief need devious versatility for a wide veriety of enemies. 2XDevious versatility even better for hero range. 2) My best recollection is that my last two caballed chars, Gergan being one, have gotten misc. IMMxp (not counting leadership, tattoo, role, etc.) 3 times in about 700 hours of play (a good raid defense, helping newbies, having a good desc) for a combined total of about 500 IMMxp. So, this is what I was weighing the -250 against.
I think the positive from all this is that people now know the consequence for recycling descriptions and that should seriously curb the behavior.
After reading the responses by the IMMs, I don't see the punishment as excessive. I had no idea people were stealing IP and I would not be happy if someone stole mine. If the IMM can't tell that it was your char, then everyone has to be punished as if it wasn't to discourage the practice. I consider the consequence I bore to be my sacrifice/contribution to this worthy effort.
My only concern is the us v. them mentality that I see throughout this thread. And it goes both ways. We're part of a unique comminuty and I think we all have the perpetuation of CF, while preserving it's essence, as our primary goal, even when we disagree on how to best achieve it. Sometimes I think we lose sight of the big picture.
So, see you in the fields. I mean now. Please log on and sit at Market Square.
Thanks, Saagkri the Hero of Alteration, Arbiter Lord
p.s. The first time you go to the foreman for payment, he pays you double!
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PSA: Descriptions
[View all] , Akresius, Mon 05-Jan-15 10:38 PM
Had you never docked imm exp this would never have beco...,
TJHuron,
06-Jan-15 01:04 PM, #52
Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive,
Saagkri,
06-Jan-15 08:02 AM #46
RE: Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive,
Demos,
06-Jan-15 08:06 AM, #47
Good post n/t,
TJHuron,
06-Jan-15 12:46 PM, #51
Fine,
incognito,
06-Jan-15 05:10 AM, #45
To the players below (let's try a different approach he...,
Mendos,
06-Jan-15 02:24 AM, #42
Reward originality.,
ibuki,
06-Jan-15 03:35 AM, #43
In case it isn't (broadly) known, originality is alread...,
Mendos,
06-Jan-15 03:50 AM, #44
Don't look now,
Ysaloerye,
06-Jan-15 11:27 AM, #50
RE: To the players below (let's try a different approac...,
Tac,
06-Jan-15 09:08 AM, #48
I want to feel bad for you (because you're cool) but I ...,
TMNS,
05-Jan-15 09:18 PM, #31
What "arms race" do you refer to?,
Mendos,
06-Jan-15 02:21 AM, #41
Long/short of it..,
TMNS,
06-Jan-15 01:24 PM, #53
Descriptions,
Umiron,
05-Jan-15 08:24 PM, #30
RE: Descriptions,
Tac,
05-Jan-15 08:46 PM, #39
I don't think your post here is helpful,
Humbert,
05-Jan-15 09:37 PM, #32
RE: I don't think your post here is helpful,
Tac,
05-Jan-15 10:01 PM, #34
RE: I don't think your post here is helpful,
Humbert,
05-Jan-15 10:11 PM, #35
Ineffective.,
Valguarnera,
05-Jan-15 10:22 PM, #37
RE: Ineffective.,
Humbert,
05-Jan-15 10:26 PM, #38
You guys need to stop,
Knac,
05-Jan-15 09:48 PM, #33
Exactly this. ,
Humbert,
05-Jan-15 10:21 PM, #36
Immortals are Doing a Great Job,
Amora,
05-Jan-15 06:11 PM, #23
Personally...,
TheBluestThumb,
05-Jan-15 05:50 PM, #16
I've agreed with every word you've posted in this threa...,
Artificial,
05-Jan-15 05:40 PM, #13
Of course you do.,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 06:13 PM, #24
Over reactions,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 05:37 PM, #11
RE: Over reactions,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 05:47 PM, #14
RE: Over reactions,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 06:01 PM, #20
It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'enforc...,
Lhydia,
05-Jan-15 04:44 PM, #3
RE: It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'en...,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 05:19 PM, #6
No. And I'd say sorry you're so jaded but the attitude ...,
Lhydia,
05-Jan-15 05:19 PM, #9
Rotd & description room,
Demos,
05-Jan-15 11:42 PM, #40
RE: It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'en...,
Deaer (Anonymous),
05-Jan-15 05:17 PM, #8
Caldysias and Baelen weren't a perma dude. NT,
TMNS,
05-Jan-15 05:31 PM, #10
I didn't catch everyone.,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 05:51 PM, #18
is the juice worth the squeeze,
laxman,
05-Jan-15 04:25 PM, #1
Removing multicharing and permagrouping rules would sav...,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 04:31 PM, #2
That doesn't really answer the question.,
Tac,
05-Jan-15 04:51 PM, #4
I wouldn't think those are good comparisons,
laxman,
05-Jan-15 05:01 PM, #5
An easy way to hand out xp is for solid descriptions.,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 05:15 PM, #7
Consequence,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 05:40 PM, #12
RE: Consequence,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 05:49 PM, #15
It's not?,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 06:06 PM, #21
There's the disconnect.,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 06:22 PM, #25
Not really.,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 06:34 PM, #26
RE: Not really.,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 06:43 PM, #28
For sure.,
Tsunami,
05-Jan-15 08:14 PM, #29
RE: An easy way to hand out xp is for solid description...,
Knac,
05-Jan-15 05:50 PM, #17
RE: An easy way to hand out xp is for solid description...,
Akresius,
05-Jan-15 05:55 PM, #19
To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much.,
Deaer (Anonymous),
05-Jan-15 06:10 PM, #22
RE: To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much.,
Knac,
05-Jan-15 06:34 PM, #27
This is rather relevatory,
laxman,
06-Jan-15 10:41 AM, #49
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