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DaevrynFri 10-Jan-14 08:10 PM
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#53623, "RE: Shapeshifters"


          

>Shapeshift (spell):
>
>I don't know why ANYONE would ever use this once you get
>shapeshift skill. The spell costs WAY more mana, has WAY more
>lag, both in casting and reverting from, and can only be done
>outside of combat, whereas the skill has very low mana cost,
>pretty short lag in using, and virtually no lag reverting
>from, and it can be done mid-combat. There have been several
>times when I knew I had a really good group and had already
>spent some time gathering a large pile of offensive wands,
>that I just skipped right over practicing shapeshift spell and
>just used horns of the bull and offensive wands (or a marble
>statue piece) right up to level 28.
>
>Benefit for skipping shapeshift spell:
>
>Conserve 1 or 2 practice sessions (depending on int)
>No chance of level skill gains going into shapeshift spell
>where they'll be a complete waste 14 levels later.
>

You're absolutely correct. Zulg made it very skippable when he left shifters have shapeshift skill and the controls without needing it.

I will certainly address this.

  

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HOT TopicFor discussion: abilities that stop being good [View all] , Daevryn, Thu 09-Jan-14 11:10 AM
Reply RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good, Want2Shift. (Anonymous), 27-Jan-14 11:04 PM, #99
Reply How about a discussion for edges that are not worth it., Eskelian, 27-Jan-14 04:02 PM, #96
Reply RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth..., Illanthos, 27-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #97
Reply RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth..., Daevryn, 27-Jan-14 08:28 PM, #98
     Reply Did nothing for me when I took it, KaguMaru, 28-Jan-14 05:32 AM, #100
     Reply RE: Did nothing for me when I took it, Daevryn, 28-Jan-14 08:54 AM, #102
     Reply Opportunity cost., Eskelian, 28-Jan-14 08:38 AM, #101
Reply Chromatic fire. Though it is never good., Tesline, 27-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #95
Reply rallyforces, Ex Orc Chief (Anonymous), 18-Jan-14 10:50 AM, #93
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Reply RE: Few conjurer spells, Drag0nSt0rm, 11-Jan-14 08:24 PM, #79
     Reply RE: Few conjurer spells, Eskelian, 11-Jan-14 11:50 PM, #81
     Reply Flash is fine..., Scrimbul, 12-Jan-14 10:45 AM, #83
          Reply RE: Flash is fine..., Daevryn, 12-Jan-14 12:18 PM, #84
               Reply Interesting., Scrimbul, 12-Jan-14 02:17 PM, #85
               Reply RE: Interesting., Eskelian, 13-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #88
                    Reply Your going to do it, CD, 13-Jan-14 12:30 AM, #89
                         Reply Maybe, if there's ever a time goodies aren't overwhelmi..., Eskelian, 13-Jan-14 03:34 AM, #90
               Reply Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you over s..., CD, 12-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #86
                    Reply RE: Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you ov..., Daevryn, 12-Jan-14 08:15 PM, #87
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Reply Shapeshifters, Klaak, 10-Jan-14 05:44 PM, #58
Reply Just deleted a shapeshifter and got a ton of mileage fr..., TMNS, 10-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #59
Reply RE: Shapeshifters, Daevryn, 10-Jan-14 08:10 PM #61
     Reply RE: Shapeshifters, Zephon, 10-Jan-14 09:05 PM, #64
Reply Leverage kick and poison darts n/t, Hopelessdwarf, 10-Jan-14 11:43 AM, #51
Reply I like poison darts., Homard, 10-Jan-14 01:25 PM, #55
Reply RE: Leverage kick and poison darts n/t, Daevryn, 10-Jan-14 08:11 PM, #63
Reply predator's stance, Dallevian, 10-Jan-14 11:35 AM, #50
Reply RE: predator's stance, Daevryn, 10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #62
     Reply Perhaps a further bonus to "animal" attacks, Murphy, 11-Jan-14 12:28 AM, #71
     Reply some sort of auto strike or auto defend, Dallevian, 11-Jan-14 07:52 PM, #78
Reply tame, Dallevian, 10-Jan-14 11:08 AM, #46
Reply bramblepit, Dallevian, 10-Jan-14 11:05 AM, #45
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          Reply Plainsrunning, Kalageadon, 10-Jan-14 07:05 PM, #60
          Reply RE: yes. it did an *edited*, Daevryn, 10-Jan-14 09:57 PM, #65
               Reply RE: yes. it did an *edited*, kolb, 10-Jan-14 10:07 PM, #66
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Reply Haven-, Faenral (Anonymous), 10-Jan-14 10:42 AM, #42
Reply RE: Haven-, Daevryn, 10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #44
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Reply Ranger things, -flso, 09-Jan-14 07:37 PM, #31
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Reply Charge + Pierce, vargal, 09-Jan-14 05:10 PM, #22
Reply RE: Charge + Pierce, Daevryn, 09-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #26
     Reply RE: Charge, vargal, 10-Jan-14 12:05 PM, #52
Reply Piercing Dissonance nt, TJHuron, 09-Jan-14 04:28 PM, #18
Reply RE: Piercing Dissonance nt, Illanthos, 09-Jan-14 07:51 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Piercing Dissonance nt, TJHuron, 09-Jan-14 11:11 PM, #39
          Reply RE: Piercing Dissonance nt, lasentia, 10-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #53
Reply not all of these are ever useful, laxman, 09-Jan-14 02:34 PM, #11
Reply RE: not all of these are ever useful, Ekaerok (Anonymous), 09-Jan-14 02:58 PM, #13
Reply RE: not all of these are ever useful, Daevryn, 09-Jan-14 07:17 PM, #27
     Reply I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things..., TMNS, 09-Jan-14 10:35 PM, #38
          Reply expansion on ideas for partials, laxman, 10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #43
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          Reply RE: I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things..., Daevryn, 10-Jan-14 11:21 PM, #68
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Reply RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good, Moligant, 09-Jan-14 01:12 PM, #7
Reply RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good, Daevryn, 09-Jan-14 07:20 PM, #28
Reply Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc, Sarien, 09-Jan-14 01:10 PM, #6
Reply RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?, Calion, 09-Jan-14 02:27 PM, #10
Reply RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?, Eskelian, 09-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #12
Reply Yeah, that would be useless, figured it has to be somet..., Calion, 09-Jan-14 03:06 PM, #15
Reply RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?, Ekaerok (Anonymous), 09-Jan-14 03:03 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?, Calion, 09-Jan-14 03:13 PM, #16
Reply RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc, Daevryn, 09-Jan-14 07:23 PM, #29
     Reply Could you elaborate a bit?, Calion, 13-Jan-14 04:13 PM, #91
Reply Few early abilities for shamans and APs, Torak, 09-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #5
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     Reply Some notes, Torak, 09-Jan-14 04:59 PM, #20
          Reply Polearm is there so you can defend from it. nt, Artificial, 09-Jan-14 10:01 PM, #37
Reply armor spell for rangers, morocco, 09-Jan-14 12:13 PM, #4
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Reply Dervish dance is ftw n/t, Destuvius, 09-Jan-14 04:50 PM, #19
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     Reply RE: Assassin kicks, Eskelian, 09-Jan-14 11:49 AM, #3
     Reply RE: Assassin kicks, Daevryn, 09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Assassin kicks, Moligant, 10-Jan-14 11:13 AM, #47
          Reply RE: Assassin kicks, Isildur, 11-Jan-14 09:24 AM, #74
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     Reply throw, Malakhi, 09-Jan-14 06:38 PM, #24
          Reply Fwiw, I would still use throw on a gnome., Zephon, 09-Jan-14 07:00 PM, #25
          Reply RE: throw, Daevryn, 09-Jan-14 07:27 PM, #30
          Reply RE: throw, Elerosse, 09-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #33
          Reply RE: throw, Illanthos, 09-Jan-14 07:57 PM, #34
          Reply RE: throw, Eskelian, 09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #35
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          Reply RE: throw, Marcus_, 15-Jan-14 10:18 AM, #92
          Reply RE: throw, Isildur, 11-Jan-14 09:26 AM, #75
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