Malakhi | Fri 13-Jan-12 02:35 PM |
Member since 12th Dec 2009
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#42519, "RE: Fine, I'll do another outcast just to help the little people of Thera."
Edited on Fri 13-Jan-12 02:44 PM
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That's kind of how the conversation goes in my head, too, only I add in a little commentary about giving svirfs a grab-bag of resists, too (like fistlaw mentions below) just to make sure people will play them
So I guess I wasn't clear but I was agreeing with you that inherent sskin is by far the main factor that makes svirf a playable/desirable rager race. Otherwise everyone would just play dwarves. I couldn't wait to use that line about the crack Fortie and nexus outcast team and that may have obscured my point.
The only part where I diverge is that I think all that crap is given to svirfs because without it, they are a sucky mediocre race that no one will play. I have a feeling stoneskin benefiting Ragers was just an afterthought balancing consideration where the designers said, "oh what the hell, it's not a gamebreaker.". In fact, I remember the first time svirfs got the inherent there was a debate over whether it was magical. And over time I think PK counts have shown that svirfs, while competitive, are not the deadliest option. My guess is that's because of their size and inability to efficiently lag in most cases (i.e., enlarge yourself and remove a vast majority of the ways a rager svirf can finish you).
And the fact that Ragers can't otherwise get stoneskin and every other player can buy it for 200 coppers is why there are sooooooooo many more svirf Ragers than svirf anything else (again what I was discussing with fistlaw below) - stoneskin is a goldmine to a rager, but not that valuable to the rest of the game which means non-rager svirfs are devalued.
Sorry for the long-windedness I just think they're a funny, committee-design race.
Eta: damn autocorrect.
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Battle applicant ala Svirf and Assassins...
[View all] , Alston, Tue 10-Jan-12 03:46 PM
elf/dark-elf invokers,
Tsunami,
09-Jan-12 12:05 PM, #12
Unless the App is a tool and doesn't use the "Where" co...,
Alston,
09-Jan-12 10:18 PM, #20
Please pay attention before you post.,
Straklaw,
09-Jan-12 10:34 PM, #21
Pleaes pay attention before you post,
Tsunami,
09-Jan-12 11:39 PM, #23
RE: Please pay attention before you post.,
Illanthos,
13-Jan-12 07:44 PM, #46
The trick is....,
Tsunami,
09-Jan-12 11:38 PM, #22
I instantly though of imp invis...where would be useles...,
Dirt,
12-Jan-12 09:47 PM, #35
Why you are mistaken...,
Homard,
08-Jan-12 11:49 PM, #6
I agree about the assassins,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-12 05:28 PM, #16
do you think they don't have to work for it?,
laxman,
08-Jan-12 02:33 PM, #1
Not like those who can't see invis,
incognito,
08-Jan-12 02:42 PM, #2
by that logic so should giant warriors,
laxman,
08-Jan-12 03:32 PM, #3
Only if you ignore,
incognito,
09-Jan-12 03:35 AM, #7
like I said its a mixed bag,
laxman,
09-Jan-12 09:11 AM, #9
I look at it differently,
Vortex Magus,
12-Jan-12 03:27 PM, #31
You think applicant status is the worst part? ROFL,
TMNS,
12-Jan-12 04:19 PM, #32
yeah, but as a svirpert let me tell you a few things,
laxman,
12-Jan-12 05:45 PM, #33
According to Quas,
Artificial,
12-Jan-12 06:59 PM, #34
I always saw the main perk of svirf vilagers as stonesk...,
lasentia,
13-Jan-12 09:58 AM, #40
Put it this way:,
Malakhi,
13-Jan-12 11:10 AM, #41
Fine, I'll do another outcast just to help the little p...,
lasentia,
13-Jan-12 01:12 PM, #42
RE: Fine, I'll do another outcast just to help the litt...,
Malakhi,
13-Jan-12 02:44 PM #43
Svirf stats are well suited for warriors.,
DurNominator,
13-Jan-12 03:23 PM, #44
You just defined mediocrity :P,
Malakhi,
13-Jan-12 10:53 PM, #47
No way is vuln_blunt worse than the metal vulns. nt,
Artificial,
13-Jan-12 11:44 PM, #48
Depends:,
Daevryn,
15-Jan-12 09:42 AM, #56
Wood-elf and half-elf warriors are less popular than gn...,
DurNominator,
14-Jan-12 04:11 PM, #53
I don't kill the mage, the mage kills me. n/t,
Alston,
14-Jan-12 07:54 AM, #49
RE: Only if you ignore,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-12 09:38 AM, #10
Absolutely. I quaff return/tele/invis every time. NT,
Batman (Anonymous),
09-Jan-12 11:46 AM, #11
Why don't you have a look at Wretchag's record,
Oldril,
09-Jan-12 04:27 PM, #13
RE: Why don't you have a look at Wretchag's record,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-12 04:57 PM, #14
I've played a few.....,
Akresius,
09-Jan-12 05:27 PM, #15
Eat me.,
TMNS,
09-Jan-12 05:38 PM, #17
touche :),
Oldril,
09-Jan-12 09:05 PM, #18
I played Volker..,
Humbert,
10-Jan-12 12:50 AM, #24
Me too nt,
incognito,
10-Jan-12 03:54 AM, #25
I played one,
Thrakburzug,
14-Jan-12 08:41 AM, #50
"OK",
Rayihn,
14-Jan-12 09:46 AM, #51
Me too. Only Tat I ever got. Did that tat do anything?,
Alston,
14-Jan-12 12:48 PM, #52
RE: Me too. Only Tat I ever got. Did that tat do anythi...,
Thrakburzug,
15-Jan-12 08:04 AM, #55
lets just say if you got the munchies hardcore you migh...,
laxman,
15-Jan-12 02:14 PM, #57
I miss Palmer. NT,
TMNS,
14-Jan-12 04:25 PM, #54
Not very good.,
robdarken_,
10-Jan-12 09:30 AM, #26
Until you run into a player who has played Fire Giant l...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-12 04:33 PM, #27
I recall you were too noob to loot my coveted breadz.,
robdarken_,
11-Jan-12 03:33 AM, #28
Totally agree about necros re: spells.,
TMNS,
11-Jan-12 01:48 PM, #30
Kind of a tangent here, but...,
fist-law,
12-Jan-12 11:55 PM, #36
RE: Kind of a tangent here, but...,
Malakhi,
13-Jan-12 12:40 AM, #37
Easy,
fist-law,
13-Jan-12 03:55 AM, #38
what cruise control?,
laxman,
13-Jan-12 07:31 AM, #39
You must be kidding.,
fist-law,
13-Jan-12 03:41 PM, #45
RE: Not like those who can't see invis,
Malakhi,
08-Jan-12 03:32 PM, #4
Yeah, getting app status sucks with a bard.,
lasentia,
08-Jan-12 04:01 PM, #5
If you can get enough edge points for feign weakness,
incognito,
09-Jan-12 03:36 AM, #8
I agree, Ruhktanshi...,
I agree.. (Anonymous),
09-Jan-12 10:06 PM, #19
Yeah, Dusatoit got his at 32 when I found a conjurer co...,
Abernyte,
11-Jan-12 04:04 AM, #29
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