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IsildurSat 27-Mar-04 12:27 AM
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#4200, "RE: Good Killing Neutral"


          

>I can't think of any +1 hit +1 dam bracers that a good aligned
>can get at level 10 other than bracers.

Need the replacement be exactly the same? There are some bracers a first-level character can get that, if I remember correctly, are +2 hit. There are some that are +1str and 5hp. There are some just like charred that are often on the ground in one of the cities.

>The purpose of raising the tarus bracers is not
>to defend the bracers specifically, but to raise the argument
>that there is plenty of "standard" equipment out there that's
>on neutral mobs which good players need.

Let's see. Charred bracers. Elemental mantles and maces. Jewelled broadswords. Black steel gauntlets. Felar chief stuff. (He's a bandit - I could justify popping him.) Forest-colored cloak. Mantle of stars. Umm...cloak w/ patches? I could play a good-aligned character of any class, never use any of those, and not consider myself "heavily disadvantaged". It would only really be annoying if I were a felar.

>I'm making a general point, not on the butler specifically.

But so is he. *In general* it is not the case that neutral = "off limits for goodies".

>Do I like the fact that as a paladin, to make my equipment
>competitive, I have to kill neutrals to do it?

Uhh. What particular equipment does your paladin need *in order to be competitive* that's held by neutral mobs?

>But I please deal with putting on more
>alternatives, or making more mobs evil, before you place this
>burden on people who enjoy good aligned classes.

Here I can agree with you: there are some mobs that should probably be evil that currently aren't.

  

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HOT TopicGood Killing Neutral [View all] , Thelleneor, Fri 09-Apr-04 11:49 AM
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 13-Feb-07 11:14 AM, #50
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 13-Feb-07 11:14 AM, #51
Reply you crack me up, laxman, 13-Feb-07 02:58 PM, #52
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, ellen, 13-Feb-07 10:33 AM, #49
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Boldereth, 12-Apr-04 09:42 AM, #47
Reply The way I handle it..., Vladamir, 27-Mar-04 07:22 PM, #28
Reply I hope they change it so they just decline. nt, Cerunnir, 27-Mar-04 07:44 PM, #29
Reply Yeah because actually roleplaying it out is bad for the..., Vladamir, 27-Mar-04 08:09 PM, #30
     Reply It isnt roleplay wise good that Ludan attack you outrig..., Cerunnir, 27-Mar-04 07:53 PM, #31
          Reply Why not?, Vladamir, 27-Mar-04 08:08 PM, #32
               Reply What about. Dispose of his fool, elite dwarven guards. ..., Cerunnir, 27-Mar-04 08:12 PM, #33
Reply on the other hand, incognito, 27-Mar-04 10:21 PM, #34
     Reply Yes but as a paladin I felt obligated not to stereotype..., Vladamir, 28-Mar-04 04:23 PM, #35
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Sevarecan, 26-Mar-04 09:48 PM, #19
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 26-Mar-04 07:43 PM, #17
Reply Agreed (n/t), Valguarnera, 26-Mar-04 11:06 PM, #20
Reply Good to have you back, Isildur. (n/t), Little Timmy (Anonymous), 27-Mar-04 03:46 PM, #27
Reply In CF, the precedent means nothing...so stop using it a..., Wilhath, 26-Mar-04 03:20 PM, #6
Reply Seeking clarity., General_Malaise, 26-Mar-04 03:31 PM, #7
Reply RE: In CF, the precedent means nothing...so stop using ..., Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 05:43 PM, #9
     Reply I don't think playability is an issue., Wilhath, 26-Mar-04 06:22 PM, #10
          Reply RE: I don't think playability is an issue., Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:56 PM, #14
               Reply Generally, yes., Wilhath, 27-Mar-04 11:41 AM, #24
                    Reply RE: Covering wear slots:, Valguarnera, 27-Mar-04 03:16 PM, #26
Reply Beat me to it, here's what was gonna be my post. :P, General_Malaise, 26-Mar-04 02:56 PM, #5
Reply For what it's worth..., nepenthe, 06-Apr-04 09:20 PM, #38
     Reply Out of interest, how did your paladin come to wield, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 07-Apr-04 03:52 AM, #39
     Reply RE: Out of interest, how did your paladin come to wield, nepenthe, 07-Apr-04 05:16 PM, #41
     Reply Who cares?, Moridin, 07-Apr-04 07:36 AM, #43
          Reply Why was my answer deleted but his false accusation left..., Evil Genius (Anonymous), 08-Apr-04 03:25 AM, #44
               Reply Text enclosed., Valguarnera, 08-Apr-04 03:52 AM, #46
                    Reply RE: Text enclosed., Moridin, 14-Apr-04 03:52 PM, #48
     Reply How about requesting from neutrals?, General_Malaise, 07-Apr-04 09:15 AM, #40
          Reply RE: How about requesting from neutrals?, nepenthe, 07-Apr-04 05:33 PM, #42
               Reply That's all..., General_Malaise, 08-Apr-04 02:08 PM, #45
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Valguarnera, 26-Mar-04 12:56 PM, #3
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Beer, 26-Mar-04 02:47 PM, #4
Reply Quick question, General_Malaise, 26-Mar-04 03:36 PM, #8
Reply RE: Quick question, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:29 PM, #12
Reply RE: Elite dwarven guards., Valguarnera, 26-Mar-04 11:10 PM, #21
     Reply How about requesting from neutrals?, General_Malaise, 29-Mar-04 10:24 AM, #36
          Reply Why not have neutrals not attack, just evils?, Cassman, 29-Mar-04 04:48 PM, #37
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:27 PM, #11
     Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 27-Mar-04 12:27 AM #22
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, incognito, 26-Mar-04 12:32 PM, #2
Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, shokai, 26-Mar-04 12:30 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 06:42 PM, #13
     Reply Play and evil character. Then come back to us., Cerunnir, 26-Mar-04 07:23 PM, #15
          Reply Playing Evil, Thelleneor, 26-Mar-04 07:40 PM, #16
               Reply Ok, paladins cant kill neutrals., Cerunnir, 26-Mar-04 09:08 PM, #18
               Reply balance and game mechanics are linked, incognito, 27-Mar-04 02:23 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Good Killing Neutral, Isildur, 27-Mar-04 12:38 AM, #23
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