Amaranthe | Sun 22-Feb-04 08:38 PM |
Member since 17th Mar 2003
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#3949, "Discussions like these..."
Edited on Sun 22-Feb-04 03:54 PM
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Discussions like these can go on forever. The truth is, the cabal could be designed to have forbidden svirfnebli and permitted necromancers, if someone wanted to design it that way.
The cabal has been designed as it has been for a variety of reasons, both roleplaying oriented and with game balance considerations in mind.
But for the sake of it, I can also add that there are hundreds of burrowing animals in the wild that live harmoniously with nature. Just because a svirfneblin uses a pickaxe instead of claws doesn't make it an unharmonious way to live, any more than a tribal hunter using a bow and arrow to take down prey is.
We've offered you our explainations. You can forever say "but, but, there are svirfneblin mobs that use pick-axes! And humans build huge cities so they are the worst offenders! And felar were created by magic so they should be seen as aberrations like minotaurs and liches!"
Trust me when I say that just about any perspective you'll come up with has already been rehashed in gory detail by the imms in the very long period of time this cabal has been in development. Decisions were made based on a lot of discussion and some general consensus, for a variety of reasons.
If you want to roleplay a character that believes svirfnebli are earth-rapists, hey, feel free! We're just telling you what the IC Outlander perspective is and why, and what the belief system characters who become Outlanders are expected to embrace. I can make devil's advocate arguments for logical loopholes in every single cabal concept out there, if I wanted to. But what's the point? There wouldn't be much room for interesting roleplaying conflict if every cabal concept was so logically air-tight that there was no room for logical opposition from the "other side" anyways.
The Outlander cabal concept isn't going to change right now, and I've already conceeded the point that the races are they are portrayed in areas/helpfiles have some inconsistencies and that the development of race into unique CF cultures is a work in progress. What more are you looking for?
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Another racial helpfile change or an Outlander oversig...
[View all] , Phaistus, Mon 23-Feb-04 01:45 AM
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Valguarnera,
25-Feb-04 02:26 PM, #30
I've always thought of Svirfs as the sylvans of the und...,
Vecna,
18-Feb-04 10:01 AM, #10
So why they all got pick-axes? n/t,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
21-Feb-04 12:57 PM, #16
Answer enclosed:,
Valguarnera,
21-Feb-04 05:31 PM, #17
RE: Answer enclosed:,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
21-Feb-04 07:05 PM, #18
RE: Answer enclosed:,
Lyristeon,
21-Feb-04 10:19 PM, #19
RE: Answer enclosed:,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
22-Feb-04 01:52 PM, #20
Discussions like these...,
Amaranthe,
22-Feb-04 03:54 PM #21
Oh my...,
Narissa,
22-Feb-04 10:12 PM, #22
RE: Oh my...,
Jhyrbian,
23-Feb-04 12:09 AM, #23
My post vanished?,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
23-Feb-04 07:58 AM, #25
RE: My post vanished?,
Amaranthe,
23-Feb-04 11:32 AM, #26
RE: My post vanished?,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
24-Feb-04 07:26 AM, #27
RE: My post vanished?,
thornheart,
25-Feb-04 04:33 AM, #28
RE: My post vanished?,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
25-Feb-04 08:15 AM, #29
Svirfnebli,
Amaranthe,
15-Feb-04 11:14 PM, #2
RE: Svirfnebli,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
17-Feb-04 07:16 AM, #4
The Tale of Dwarven Origin,
Amaranthe,
17-Feb-04 11:56 AM, #5
RE: The Tale of Dwarven Origin,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
17-Feb-04 09:12 PM, #6
On svirfs and other underdark races in relation to Outl...,
Zefarah,
17-Feb-04 11:49 PM, #7
RE: helpfile,
Sevarecan,
18-Feb-04 12:04 AM, #8
Right, OUTLANDER, not OUTLAW.. sorry. nt,
Zefarah,
18-Feb-04 12:46 AM, #9
RE: On svirfs and other underdark races in relation to ...,
Amaranthe,
18-Feb-04 04:54 PM, #11
Thank Goodness.,
Zefarah,
18-Feb-04 08:29 PM, #12
RE: Thank Goodness.,
Amaranthe,
19-Feb-04 01:45 AM, #13
RE: On svirfs and other underdark races in relation to ...,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
21-Feb-04 12:50 PM, #15
RE: On svirfs and other underdark races in relation to ...,
Zefarah,
23-Feb-04 04:31 AM, #24
There is a whole big book on it in the lycium too tho n...,
dwimmerling,
20-Feb-04 07:32 PM, #14
On that note.,
permanewbie,
15-Feb-04 11:13 PM, #1
RE: On that note.,
Amaranthe,
15-Feb-04 11:19 PM, #3
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