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#34707, "RE: Summary."
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A couple things:
I don't necessarily understand why, from a purely IC perspective, an (IC) Immortal would come on somehow for this. Based on how you described things, I get the feeling this is a staff member using IC mechanisms to punish them for something that YOU think is lame (hoarding), but isn't necessarily bad RP and is not, as far as I can tell, against the rules.
So, as I understand it, it went down like this: 1) You notice a guy hoarding eq. It's not against the rules and the character has no role entries or other virtues that would make hoarding "bad RP" AFAIK.
2) You don't like this. Maybe other Imms don't like it. You use IC mechanisms to bust his chops.
3) Dude takes it the wrong way and it becomes an issue. Nasty mess ensues.
I certainly realize it isn't the player base's prerogative to tell you guys how to do your jobs and that WE shouldn't dictate policy. That said, it seems like a pattern is developing, which is the transition from #2 to #3.
So... I'm simply going to throw out there as calmly and politely as I can the idea that the staff consider how well #2 has been working out for them lately and how much lame #3 it leads to and think about maybe working on that.
Perhaps you could introduce some helpfiles that elaborate on some of the "not quite against the rules, but still problematic" issues, or maybe just pull these people aside and talk to them face-to-face instead of trying to handle it with (let's face it, negative) RP, which commonly upsets people.
You'd be absolutely right if you said you shouldn't have to do that or that those people are a minority and just aren't "worth it", but at the end of the day, addressing the fact that the aforementioned scenario seems to go poorly often enouogh, there might be some PR value in reevaluating how that's handled. It's not that you're not right, you probably are in the right, but if situations like this can be avoided by making an adjustment that is within your control to do, maybe that's worth it if it means less drama llamas.
I REALLY hope this doesn't come off as a rant, because that isn't my intention.
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RE: Locked Threads
[View all] , Splntrd, Wed 18-Aug-10 10:50 PM
Bottom line,
Hopelessdwarf,
18-Aug-10 07:21 PM, #79
Summary.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 03:46 PM, #48
Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 04:04 PM, #49
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:10 PM, #50
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 04:37 PM, #56
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:48 PM, #59
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 04:52 PM, #60
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 05:00 PM, #62
What you guys should do in this situation..,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 05:06 PM, #64
RE: What you guys should do in this situation..,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 06:01 PM, #70
I don't feel thats entirely accurate.,
Gaplemo,
18-Aug-10 06:42 PM, #73
You're not allowed to enter into this thread.,
sleepy,
19-Aug-10 12:42 AM, #84
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Elerosse,
18-Aug-10 06:34 PM, #72
RE: Summary.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 04:13 PM #51
Well thought out response, I will return mine in kind.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:24 PM, #52
Thuul,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 05:46 PM, #66
RE: Thuul,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 05:52 PM, #67
My point,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 06:00 PM, #69
I'm pretty sure you already ranted about Thuul,
sleepy,
19-Aug-10 12:44 AM, #85
That wasn't the consensus. n/t,
Pro,
19-Aug-10 03:57 AM, #89
RE: That wasn't the consensus. n/t,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:04 AM, #92
No it wasn't and still isn't. n/t,
Pro,
19-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #99
RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki...,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 04:41 PM, #83
RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki...,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #58
Just to point something out...,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:06 AM, #86
I actually had no idea about the title until afterwards...,
TMNS,
18-Aug-10 07:07 PM, #76
RE: Summary.,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 04:36 PM, #55
RE: Summary.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:58 PM, #61
RE: Summary.,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 05:13 PM, #63
RE: Summary.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 05:58 PM, #68
RE: Summary.,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 06:07 PM, #71
RE: Summary.,
Hutto,
19-Aug-10 02:28 PM, #97
we're all human and we all make mistakes,
MoetEtChandon,
18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #57
FWIW, I didn't lock it and don't know who did. nt,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:54 PM, #81
To be honest, you're a great IMM but a god-awful poster...,
TMNS,
18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #78
RE: Summary.,
HammerSong,
18-Aug-10 07:29 PM, #80
Speaking as a newbie...,
defrost,
18-Aug-10 04:20 AM, #22
Define newbie, restraint, polite behavior. n/t,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 10:50 AM, #32
RE: Locked Threads,
Malakhi,
18-Aug-10 03:29 AM, #20
My reasonable alternative:,
Bubthegreat,
18-Aug-10 03:59 AM, #21
... No.,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 09:52 AM, #31
RE: ... No.,
Bubthegreat,
18-Aug-10 02:04 PM, #40
On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested.,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 08:08 AM, #23
This. nt,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 09:19 AM, #28
FATALITY n/t,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 01:09 PM, #38
Agreement?,
Malakhi,
18-Aug-10 01:45 PM, #39
RE: Agreement?,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 02:17 PM, #42
RE: Agreement?,
Isildur,
18-Aug-10 10:33 PM, #82
RE: Agreement?,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:13 AM, #87
RE: Agreement?,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:03 AM, #91
I can't believe how much I don't agree with you these d...,
Pro,
19-Aug-10 03:50 AM, #88
RE: I can't believe how much I don't agree with you the...,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:02 AM, #90
Can't believe I'm defending Pro.,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 08:39 AM, #93
RE: Can't believe I'm defending Pro.,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 09:43 AM, #95
RE: Agreement?,
Malakhi,
19-Aug-10 02:42 PM, #98
RE: On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested.,
Isildur,
18-Aug-10 03:21 PM, #43
Think about this also,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #46
RE: Locked Threads,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 08:29 AM, #24
RE: Locked Threads,
Malakhi,
18-Aug-10 02:09 PM, #41
RE: Locked Threads,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #47
Quick thought.,
TMNS,
18-Aug-10 07:00 PM, #75
RE: Locked Threads,
Hutto,
19-Aug-10 02:19 PM, #96
At this point its like a bad marriage..,
Kadsuane,
17-Aug-10 08:38 PM, #17
Bring all the lawyers you want...I'll still get custody...,
Zulghinlour,
18-Aug-10 03:26 PM, #44
Le sigh n/t ,
Kadsuane,
18-Aug-10 05:39 PM, #65
RE: Locked Threads,
Isildur,
17-Aug-10 03:33 PM, #10
Correct on both accounts (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
18-Aug-10 03:27 PM, #45
Fine we'll go start our own with Hookers and Blackjack!...,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 04:30 PM, #54
Hookers and Blackjack eh?,
Zulghinlour,
18-Aug-10 06:54 PM, #74
RE: Locked Threads,
Nnaeshuk,
17-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #9
Some people just have long toes,
MoetEtChandon,
17-Aug-10 04:47 PM, #12
Totally.,
Guilo,
17-Aug-10 05:22 PM, #13
So duper duper cosign.,
TMNS,
17-Aug-10 07:13 PM, #16
Agreed,
Torak,
17-Aug-10 10:44 PM, #18
RE: Locked Threads,
Hutto,
17-Aug-10 02:29 PM, #8
RE: Locked Threads,
wareagle,
17-Aug-10 01:43 PM, #7
I'm all for locked threads,
incognito,
17-Aug-10 01:29 PM, #5
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Splntrd,
17-Aug-10 01:37 PM, #6
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
17-Aug-10 05:37 PM, #14
You could just have said it was my posts,
Torak,
17-Aug-10 11:29 PM, #19
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 08:33 AM, #25
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 09:01 AM, #27
You're on crack.,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 09:39 AM, #29
I didn't think it'd be too much trouble...,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 09:49 AM, #30
In retrospect...,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 10:55 AM, #33
You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes.,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 11:13 AM, #34
You're not helping.,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 11:16 AM, #35
RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes...,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #77
RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes...,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 08:55 AM, #94
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #37
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 08:34 AM, #26
The term 'Champion' is poorly chosen,
MoetEtChandon,
18-Aug-10 04:25 PM, #53
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Pendragon_Surtr,
17-Aug-10 03:43 PM, #11
RE: Locked Threads,
ORB,
17-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #3
RE: Locked Threads,
HammerSong,
17-Aug-10 06:24 PM, #15
RE: Locked Threads,
flatline,
17-Aug-10 12:27 PM, #1
RE: Locked Threads,
sorlag (Anonymous),
17-Aug-10 12:37 PM, #2
Lyr's response to you was unwarranted.,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 12:49 PM, #36
RE: Locked Threads,
Splntrd,
17-Aug-10 01:19 PM, #4
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