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DaevrynSat 20-Oct-07 10:20 AM
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#19569, "RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ideas"


          


>all specs can choose the drive-lag legecy (although relying on
>this for perma lag, I hear, is a BIG mistake)

As a warrior, bash is the only ability available that can lag your opponent indefinitely. (That is, always has a chance to be doable again before they get a command.)

>I really dislike it. for a number of reasons, I'll outline two
>of them.
>
>one, either a mage class is balanced without a/b/s, then
>because a/b/s is so much of an insane boost to dam redux, any
>mage class balanced without it is overpowered with it. Or...a
>mage class is balanced for a/b/s. Then, by the same token,
>they are way way underpowered without it.

Or, they're balanced to have it sometimes, and not have it sometimes.

>a second reason, is that I don't buy that the whole argument
>the imms have given in the past for the existance of abs is
>the optimal solution.

What you describe is a reason; it's not the only reason. You're too black and white.

Something else to consider is that other classes often benefit from other kind of gear more than, say, an invoker does. Cool mace? Well, either my mace warrior or my invoker could wield it, but which one's probably getting more mileage out of it? In similar vein, for many different builds of warriors I can make arguments for gearing for damage, hitroll, hit points, saves, str, dex, even armor quality, etc... pretty much anything but mana. Mage gearing is typically much more limited in the number of different things that are a good idea, so in a sense, A/B/S helps equal out their exploring value.

  

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HOT Locked TopicSo who besides me thinks game balance is a laughable jo... [View all] , trewyn, Fri 19-Oct-07 04:50 PM
Reply Occams Razor says this thread is done, Zulghinlour, 21-Oct-07 08:49 PM, #49
Reply RE: So who besides me thinks game balance is a laughabl..., DurNominator, 21-Oct-07 01:08 PM, #38
Reply Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong., Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 07:24 AM, #30
Reply Yeah but, geez..., Theerkla, 21-Oct-07 08:14 AM, #34
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., trewyn, 21-Oct-07 01:04 PM, #37
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 04:23 PM, #43
Reply Grapevine says Q is nep aka overpowered, nerf plz nt, snowlauncher, 21-Oct-07 05:10 PM, #46
     Reply RE: Grapevine says Q is nep aka overpowered, nerf plz n..., Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 06:15 PM, #47
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., Daevryn, 21-Oct-07 04:28 PM, #45
Reply RE: Some recent players and their stats prove you wrong..., Valguarnera, 21-Oct-07 07:03 PM, #48
Reply And similar stats for top magi are? nt, DurNominator, 21-Oct-07 01:09 PM, #39
     Reply RE: And similar stats for top magi are? nt, Lyristeon, 21-Oct-07 04:06 PM, #42
Reply Super prepped., Cerunnir, 20-Oct-07 10:41 AM, #15
Reply Their preps are generally harder to get than sleeks, Dervish, 21-Oct-07 03:48 AM, #28
Reply Not I!, Valguarnera, 20-Oct-07 10:17 AM, #13
Reply RE: Not I!, Isildur, 20-Oct-07 03:14 PM, #17
     Reply Present characters only., Valguarnera, 20-Oct-07 03:25 PM, #18
          Reply Do you have an all-time deadliest list?, Lightmage, 21-Oct-07 03:07 PM, #40
Reply this is strange, and what I think are some good ideas, Odrirg, 20-Oct-07 10:03 AM, #12
Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 10:20 AM #14
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., _Magus_, 20-Oct-07 12:00 PM, #16
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 11:50 PM, #23
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Zulghinlour, 21-Oct-07 12:03 AM, #26
     Reply RE: this is strange, and what I think are some good ide..., Odrirg, 20-Oct-07 04:34 PM, #19
          Reply You're thinking about this in a very limited fashion, A2, 20-Oct-07 06:17 PM, #20
               Reply Yeah, on that note:, Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 11:53 PM, #24
Reply I should note, incognito, 20-Oct-07 09:16 AM, #9
Reply RE: So who besides me thinks game balance is a laughabl..., incognito, 20-Oct-07 09:04 AM, #8
Reply Short version:, Daevryn, 19-Oct-07 10:38 PM, #4
Reply I dunno..., trewyn, 19-Oct-07 10:55 PM, #6
Reply Not that I agree with the OP, Theerkla, 20-Oct-07 09:53 AM, #10
     Reply RE: Not that I agree with the OP, Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 10:01 AM, #11
     Reply Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Xenoroyal, 20-Oct-07 10:30 PM, #21
          Reply RE: Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 11:45 PM, #22
               Reply RE: Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Xenoroyal, 21-Oct-07 01:39 AM, #27
               Reply RE: Yeah, but with mael + META BOOSTED EVADE..., Valguarnera, 21-Oct-07 07:36 AM, #31
                    Reply Is this from someone that looked at and knows the code?, Theerkla, 21-Oct-07 08:10 AM, #33
                         Reply Yes., Sebeok, 21-Oct-07 10:07 AM, #35
                              Reply You know, that really was an honest question, Theerkla, 21-Oct-07 11:08 AM, #36
                                   Reply Hey Mr. Black and White, trewyn, 21-Oct-07 03:44 PM, #41
                                        Reply RE: Hey Mr. Black and White, Daevryn, 21-Oct-07 04:25 PM, #44
               Reply Lvl difference vs. neuro save.., TheDude, 21-Oct-07 04:00 AM, #29
                    Reply RE: Lvl difference vs. neuro save.., Valguarnera, 21-Oct-07 07:40 AM, #32
     Reply On this vein from what I've seen as both the muter and ..., Drag0nSt0rm, 20-Oct-07 11:54 PM, #25
Reply As someone who plays a lot of different classes, A2, 19-Oct-07 06:41 PM, #2
Reply RE: As someone who plays a lot of different classes, Daevryn, 19-Oct-07 10:30 PM, #3
Reply I'm gonna go ahead and bite on this one., Kadsuane, 19-Oct-07 05:55 PM, #1
     Reply RE: I'm gonna go ahead and bite on this one., trewyn, 19-Oct-07 10:46 PM, #5
          Reply RE: I'm gonna go ahead and bite on this one., Daevryn, 20-Oct-07 12:05 AM, #7
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