Valkenar | Fri 29-Jun-07 03:54 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#18228, "Well, I disagree"
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>warrior/thief/ranger/whatever. Does the average mage without >ABS have all the tools it needs to defeat the average warrior, >of equal skill, 50% of the time? I think it does.
And I would say no. A mage like that is absolutely dependant on opportunism. A warrior isn't. Sure, a mage *could* go 50/50 or even win 100% by being extra cautious, but that's not the question. In my experience, with mages and non-mages, is that mages without at least some extra protections are too fragile to be scary (unless you have no saves and get surprised and slept). I mean, as a *bard* with a nightwalker in the daytime, a couple of times I out-melleed a hero transmuter with a/b/s who froze me, but failed to soften/decalc me before he got wittled down. And I had crappy saves. Now imagine if I was a warrior with decent saves and he had no a/b/s... he wouldn't stand a chance.
Do you think Lightmage is just an idiot, because he has said that you need a/b/s as a shifter. Overall I think that while there certainly are a number of different cases where mages can win without a/b/s, they can't get in there and mix it up, and absolutely must rely on opportunism. By contrast, most melee classes can accept a wider variety of fights and have a pretty even chance. A full a/b/s mage is probably more on the overpowered side, and that's why they shouldn't be given a/b/s all the time. But without at least something they are definitely lacking.
Lastly, you're forgetting that anyone can pretty easily prepare to fight a mage by gearing for svs, which can really ruin the mage's chances.
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Does the current wand system encourage more cheating?
[View all] , jasmin, Thu 21-Jun-07 12:36 PM
RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin...,
Rade,
02-Aug-07 11:34 AM, #71
No, for I don't bother to make a list of wands that mig...,
DurNominator,
27-Jun-07 11:39 PM, #36
RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin...,
Doge,
22-Jun-07 11:15 AM, #11
RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin...,
Gabe,
22-Jun-07 08:12 PM, #20
Heh, in the last RS incarnation,
Tac,
25-Jun-07 08:26 AM, #29
I'm not sure what the point is, but this is a lie. nt,
Nightshade,
25-Jun-07 10:32 AM, #30
RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin...,
Zulghinlour,
21-Jun-07 01:09 PM, #1
A little spoon for the newbies,
Mekantos,
21-Jun-07 02:07 PM, #2
Sleeks have been an endless source of frustration,
astaroth,
22-Jun-07 02:04 AM, #3
I hear you,
Torak,
22-Jun-07 05:37 PM, #17
RE: I hear you,
incognito,
24-Jun-07 03:48 PM, #24
RE: I hear you,
Torak,
24-Jun-07 10:35 PM, #28
RE: I hear you,
Isildur,
24-Jun-07 04:51 PM, #26
RE: I hear you,
Torak,
24-Jun-07 10:33 PM, #27
RE: I hear you,
Thrakburzug,
26-Jun-07 12:53 PM, #32
RE: I hear you,
Torak,
27-Jun-07 10:31 PM, #34
Your posts are almost not worth reading.,
vargal,
27-Jun-07 11:16 PM, #35
RE: Your posts are almost not worth reading.,
Gromkonk,
28-Jun-07 05:18 AM, #40
As Enarn's #1 Lackey...,
Aodh,
26-Jun-07 06:55 PM, #33
Khar,
Kastellyn,
29-Jun-07 12:23 PM, #56
RE: I hear you,
Karel,
04-Jul-07 01:32 AM, #69
RE: Sleeks have been an endless source of frustration,
incognito,
24-Jun-07 03:49 PM, #25
RE: Sleeks have been an endless source of frustration,
Eskelian,
28-Jun-07 12:20 AM, #37
RE: A little spoon for the newbies,
Rade,
29-Jul-07 03:55 PM, #70
and here it is.,
Odrirg,
22-Jun-07 07:35 AM, #4
I couldn't have said it better myself. nt,
Vladamir,
22-Jun-07 07:42 AM, #5
Sleek Wand Finding,
Twist,
22-Jun-07 08:36 AM, #7
Nepenthe-ism must be contagious. ~,
_Magus_,
22-Jun-07 06:09 PM, #19
Yup. Tedium is so 1994.,
Valkenar,
22-Jun-07 10:31 AM, #8
RE: Yup. Tedium is so 1994.,
Isildur,
22-Jun-07 02:34 PM, #14
I don't have to play mages,
Valkenar,
22-Jun-07 04:04 PM, #16
RE: and here it is.,
Zulghinlour,
22-Jun-07 02:12 PM, #13
Quick question,
_Magus_,
23-Jun-07 07:15 PM, #22
RE: Quick question,
Zulghinlour,
23-Jun-07 11:00 PM, #23
RE: and here it is.,
Sandello,
25-Jun-07 03:09 PM, #31
What I don't like.,
Vladamir,
22-Jun-07 07:52 AM, #6
A few points/opinions,
Gromkonk,
22-Jun-07 10:40 AM, #9
RE: A few points/opinions,
Kastellyn,
22-Jun-07 11:07 AM, #10
An idea,
Valkenar,
22-Jun-07 12:16 PM, #12
RE: An idea,
Isildur,
22-Jun-07 02:37 PM, #15
Yeah!,
Gromkonk,
22-Jun-07 05:41 PM, #18
I like these ideas a lot.,
Vladamir,
23-Jun-07 11:44 AM, #21
RE: I like these ideas a lot.,
Eskelian,
28-Jun-07 12:29 AM, #38
Eh.,
Daevryn,
28-Jun-07 12:50 AM, #39
So which is this?,
Valkenar,
28-Jun-07 10:38 AM, #41
You don't get it.,
vargal,
28-Jun-07 11:47 AM, #42
RE: You don't get it.,
Eskelian,
28-Jun-07 02:44 PM, #44
Kharia had one aura wand that I knew of...,
Twist,
28-Jun-07 03:48 PM, #47
No offense (+vargal response),
Valkenar,
28-Jun-07 04:26 PM, #49
RE: Kharia had one aura wand that I knew of...,
Eskelian,
29-Jun-07 10:33 AM, #52
Keep in mind that 2/1 wasn't a ratio...,
Twist,
29-Jun-07 11:37 AM, #53
RE: Keep in mind that 2/1 wasn't a ratio...,
Eskelian,
29-Jun-07 01:21 PM, #59
RE: Kharia had one aura wand that I knew of...,
Adhelard,
29-Jun-07 12:10 PM, #55
Fine, replace Hunsobo with "Any Village Berserker". n/...,
Eskelian,
29-Jun-07 01:15 PM, #58
Well, I disagree,
Valkenar,
29-Jun-07 03:54 PM #60
RE: Well, I disagree,
Daevryn,
29-Jun-07 04:32 PM, #61
RE: Well, I disagree,
Eskelian,
29-Jun-07 04:42 PM, #62
RE: Well, I disagree,
Daevryn,
29-Jun-07 07:32 PM, #63
RE: Well, I disagree,
Torak,
29-Jun-07 09:26 PM, #64
RE: Well, I disagree,
Daevryn,
29-Jun-07 10:55 PM, #65
But, there I'm already getting off the point...,
Daevryn,
29-Jun-07 10:59 PM, #66
That's true,
Valkenar,
30-Jun-07 12:55 PM, #67
RE: Well, I disagree,
Eskelian,
02-Jul-07 12:06 PM, #68
RE: So which is this?,
Daevryn,
28-Jun-07 02:41 PM, #43
RE: So which is this?,
Eskelian,
28-Jun-07 02:51 PM, #45
RE: So which is this?,
Daevryn,
28-Jun-07 03:07 PM, #46
RE: So which is this?,
Eskelian,
29-Jun-07 10:22 AM, #51
I endorse this post. n/t,
Sandello,
29-Jun-07 12:02 PM, #54
Some feeback,
Valkenar,
28-Jun-07 04:11 PM, #48
oops,
Valkenar,
28-Jun-07 10:37 PM, #50
Suggestion for an addition to the current system.,
Sandello,
29-Jun-07 12:42 PM, #57
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