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StunnaTue 13-Nov-07 06:16 PM
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#105, "RE: Ninja society..."


          

I know your hoping they are succesful.

Your process for staff development is not good.

I once contracted to a mortgage broker who wanted me to train is L.Os in basic salesmanship. The guy had a staff of four at the time, all on 100% commission. He wanted them to do well, obviously, because for every deal they brought in he was pocketing $3,500+ depending on the Y.S.P. However this guy was a horrible manager. His exact words to me were, "Our training program is great because it's sink or swim."

Basically he wasn't giving them any training in mortgage banking, and he was generally stand offish when they asked for help. He was really great at creating underwriting models that were very marketable. (He basically streamlined the whole re-fi your way out of chapter 13 thing.) Brilliant products, smart guy... but ultimatly he couldn't develop decent staff, and they always left in a matter of months.

If you want to keep staff it can never be sink or swim, and it's really not a good idea to just drop an area project on them. It's a lot of work, and feedback is slow. Now I know the people who can do the coding etc. are busy, that's not my point. It would probably be significantly better to give Lyristeon a team of three heroimms, let him project manage and have the team create an area. I'd imagine that would reduce burnout, and be more fun for everyone involved.

Staff should be nurtured along. I know you guys don't like that idea, but it's true. That's how you build a long time team. I tell people they need to treat their staff like younger siblings.

It's okay to challenge you're hero imms, but maybe you need to set up smaller steps of progress so that they can percieve their own achievment.

  

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HOT TopicA Proposal [View all] , Mekantos, Wed 14-Nov-07 11:44 AM
Reply Why I would be against this., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 09:45 AM, #45
Reply As for me (and other players), there is almost no candy..., Dervish, 14-Nov-07 09:54 AM, #47
Reply The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 06:20 AM, #39
Reply RE: The question from me!, Valguarnera, 14-Nov-07 07:21 AM, #41
     Reply RE: The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 07:38 AM, #42
          Reply RE: The question from me!, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 09:33 AM, #44
               Reply RE: The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 09:51 AM, #46
                    Reply Without going into specifics., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 11:44 AM, #49
Reply Not I., Valguarnera, 08-Nov-07 07:14 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Not I., Tahren, 08-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #2
     Reply Another angle, Mekantos, 08-Nov-07 03:25 PM, #3
     Reply I think you're missing the point., Cyradia, 12-Nov-07 05:24 PM, #5
          Reply You put the worst spin imaginable on my post, Mekantos, 12-Nov-07 07:51 PM, #6
          Reply You know what, forget it. This is not worth it. -nt-, Mekantos, 12-Nov-07 07:54 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Why areas?, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-07 07:43 AM, #8
          Reply Thank you for a good response -nt-, Mekantos, 13-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #12
          Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 13-Nov-07 04:13 PM, #17
               Reply RE: Why areas?, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:07 PM, #21
                    Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 13-Nov-07 05:28 PM, #24
                         Reply RE: Why areas?, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 11:45 AM, #50
                              Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 14-Nov-07 01:12 AM, #37
                              Reply Think systemic:, Valguarnera, 14-Nov-07 07:11 AM, #40
                                   Reply RE: Think systemic:, Isildur, 14-Nov-07 09:19 AM, #43
                                        Reply RE: Think systemic:, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 11:43 AM, #48
                                             Reply RE: Think systemic:, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:20 PM, #51
                              Reply The problem is that mortals cannot empower. nt, DurNominator, 14-Nov-07 05:44 AM, #38
          Reply RE: You put the worst spin imaginable on my post, Daevryn, 13-Nov-07 09:01 AM, #9
               Reply Thanks for a good response -nt-, Mekantos, 13-Nov-07 12:30 PM, #11
          Reply does the immortal staff use a system of continual impro..., laxman, 13-Nov-07 11:40 AM, #10
               Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 12:45 PM, #13
                    Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., laxman, 13-Nov-07 01:56 PM, #14
                         Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 02:16 PM, #15
                         Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Isildur, 13-Nov-07 04:25 PM, #18
                              Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:05 PM, #20
                         Reply Let me guess, just took a six sigma class? NT, Dragomir, 13-Nov-07 02:32 PM, #16
                         Reply actually I major in OEM nt, laxman, 13-Nov-07 05:07 PM, #22
                         Reply If you minus the snotty tone, and cocky ass attitude, I..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 05:02 PM, #19
                              Reply Ninja society..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:14 PM, #23
                                   Reply I would love., Dallevian, 13-Nov-07 05:44 PM, #25
                                   Reply There is a CF facebook group, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:48 PM, #26
                                        Reply No, thanks., Dallevian, 13-Nov-07 05:53 PM, #27
                                   Reply RE: Ninja society..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 06:16 PM #28
                                        Reply Re: generalizations, TheDude, 13-Nov-07 06:48 PM, #29
                                        Reply RE: Re: generalizations, Stunna, 13-Nov-07 07:18 PM, #30
                                        Reply RE: Re: generalizations, TheDude, 13-Nov-07 08:58 PM, #31
                                             Reply Good Post, Stunna, 13-Nov-07 08:59 PM, #32
                                        Reply RE: generalizations, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-07 09:14 PM, #33
                                             Reply Well, there goes me assuming again.., TheDude, 13-Nov-07 10:18 PM, #35
                                             Reply That's not the problem..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 10:23 PM, #36
                                        Reply One idea I really like..., Gryshilniar, 13-Nov-07 10:06 PM, #34
     Reply RE: Not I., colospgsbryan, 08-Nov-07 10:10 PM, #4
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