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EskelianMon 18-Sep-06 01:04 PM
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#453, "RE: That contradicts what you just said."
Edited on Mon 18-Sep-06 01:08 PM

          

Thats ridiculous.

~3000 people in the US are attributed, according to Valg's own statistics, to getting lung cancer from second hand smoke.

Out of 280 million people.

Think of that and reread his post, and tell me it doesn't come across as a serious over-exaggeration?

Just for giggles :

You're 5x more likely to be murdered.
You're 7x more likely to die to the flu.
You're 14x more likely to die in a car crash.

~500,000 people die of various forms of cancer every year (note - in other words, you're 165x more likely to die of something other than lung cancer as a non-smoker affected by second hand smoke...assuming their stats are legit).

~910,000 people die of heart attack every year (note - in other words, 97% of people who have heart attacks and die are not non-smoking second-hand victims).

The point I'm driving at? I'm not saying second hand smoke is harmless. I'm saying its nothing to wet your pants about.

My problem is more with the tone and assumptions (IE, get that smoke away from me or it'll kill me), its purely ignorant. You have a LOT more things to worry about. Second hand smoke is not the boogie-man, come to axe murder you in your sleep, that people make it out to be. Relatively speaking, Ronald McDonald is more 'Jason-esque' than second hand smoking. Additionally, you'll note the type of people that "frequently expose themselves to second hand smoke in bars" aren't the types of people that would shock me if they had a heart attack.

  

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HOT TopicWhat is everyone's pet peeve? [View all] , Shadowmaster, Fri 15-Sep-06 07:03 AM
Reply My short list., Quixotic, 18-Sep-06 08:55 PM, #91
Reply That's a good one., Eskelian, 19-Sep-06 05:10 AM, #93
     Reply RE: WalMart, Valguarnera, 19-Sep-06 09:01 AM, #94
          Reply RE: WalMart, Eskelian, 19-Sep-06 09:21 PM, #95
               Reply Do you mean white trash? nt, Tac, 19-Sep-06 10:39 PM, #96
                    Reply RE: Do you mean white trash? nt, Eskelian, 20-Sep-06 10:32 AM, #97
Reply Drama..., Saith, 16-Sep-06 01:06 PM, #46
Reply Lumps in my Cream of Wheat., Eshval, 14-Sep-06 09:41 PM, #21
Reply I'm an irritable guy, I guess.., Java, 14-Sep-06 09:43 PM, #20
Reply that was great!..., Saith, 16-Sep-06 01:00 PM, #45
Reply My List, Ysaloerye, 14-Sep-06 09:12 PM, #19
Reply RE: My List, Isildur, 15-Sep-06 12:16 AM, #23
     Reply Agree with pretty much all of Ysaloeryes and that one I..., Abernyte, 15-Sep-06 07:48 AM, #33
Reply rewriting the same code over and over an over and over, TheDude, 14-Sep-06 12:39 PM, #18
Reply Yeah, I revise my statement. My pet peeve is Sharepoint..., Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 04:33 AM, #28
Reply If it was easy to get "good" specs life would be too ea..., Mylinos, 15-Sep-06 10:27 AM, #34
     Reply bleh, sorry the attachment doesn't seem to open right. ..., Mylinos, 15-Sep-06 10:15 AM, #35
Reply Smoking in public, DurNominator, 13-Sep-06 02:32 PM, #6
Reply I hate other people breathing my air., Tac, 13-Sep-06 03:43 PM, #7
Reply RE: I hate other people breathing my air., Valkenar, 13-Sep-06 05:10 PM, #9
Reply RE: I hate other people breathing my air., Tac, 13-Sep-06 05:46 PM, #10
Reply RE: I hate other people breathing my air., Valkenar, 13-Sep-06 06:19 PM, #31
Reply Well said, DurNominator, 13-Sep-06 11:41 PM, #13
     Reply RE: Well said, Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 04:56 AM, #29
          Reply RE: Well said, DurNominator, 16-Sep-06 04:54 AM, #42
Reply Not to bring up evidence, but:, Valguarnera, 13-Sep-06 08:33 PM, #12
Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Tac, 14-Sep-06 09:11 AM, #15
Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Valguarnera, 14-Sep-06 10:33 AM, #16
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Sandello, 14-Sep-06 11:28 PM, #22
     Reply Remember that study,, Marcus_, 15-Sep-06 03:33 AM, #24
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 04:25 AM, #27
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Valguarnera, 15-Sep-06 07:02 AM, #30
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 05:53 PM, #37
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Isildur, 15-Sep-06 01:10 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 06:39 PM, #39
               Reply Better link, nebel, 16-Sep-06 02:53 AM, #41
     Reply Here's the thing..., TheLastMohican, 16-Sep-06 12:02 PM, #44
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, sksskn, 19-Sep-06 03:07 AM, #92
Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 04:21 AM, #26
Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Valguarnera, 15-Sep-06 07:22 AM, #32
     Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 06:19 PM, #38
          Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Valguarnera, 15-Sep-06 10:41 PM, #40
               Reply RE: Not to bring up evidence, but:, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 06:15 AM, #50
                    Reply RE: Faith-based smoking safety:, Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 08:34 AM, #51
                         Reply That contradicts what you just said., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 09:14 AM, #53
                         Reply RE: That contradicts what you just said., nepenthe, 18-Sep-06 10:17 AM, #60
                              Reply RE: That contradicts what you just said., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:08 PM #65
                                   Reply Incorrect, again., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 01:26 PM, #69
                                   Reply RE: Incorrect, again., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:38 PM, #71
                                   Reply To be fair., Shadowmaster, 18-Sep-06 01:53 PM, #77
                                        Reply RE: To be fair., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:54 PM, #78
                                             Reply My thoughts on this smoking thing., Shadowmaster, 18-Sep-06 02:09 PM, #80
                                                  Reply RE: My thoughts on this smoking thing., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 02:29 PM, #82
                                   Reply Is your job specifically air quality?, Shadowmaster, 18-Sep-06 01:52 PM, #75
                                        Reply Job-related, yes., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 02:13 PM, #81
                                             Reply RE: Job-related, yes., Isildur, 18-Sep-06 03:59 PM, #85
                                   Reply RE: That contradicts what you just said., nepenthe, 18-Sep-06 04:46 PM, #87
                                        Reply RE: That contradicts what you just said., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 07:28 PM, #89
                         Reply 25,000 +, Tac, 18-Sep-06 09:30 AM, #55
                              Reply RE: 25,000 +, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 09:35 AM, #56
                              Reply RE: 25,000 +, Tac, 18-Sep-06 09:37 AM, #57
                              Reply RE: 25,000 +, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 09:45 AM, #59
                                   Reply This is false., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 12:54 PM, #64
                                        Reply RE: This is false., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:10 PM, #66
                                             Reply Not a small number., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 01:31 PM, #70
                                                  Reply Stick with one set of stats., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:52 PM, #76
                              Reply Some numbers and sources., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 12:49 PM, #63
                                   Reply More comprehensive link, nebel, 18-Sep-06 01:46 PM, #72
                                        Reply Danke., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 01:51 PM, #74
Reply Got around to reading your study., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 09:41 AM, #58
     Reply RE: Got around to reading your study., Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 12:27 PM, #62
          Reply RE: Got around to reading your study., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:11 PM, #67
               Reply One example, of many:, Valguarnera, 18-Sep-06 01:47 PM, #73
                    Reply RE: One example, of many:, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 02:01 PM, #79
Reply RE: I hate other people breathing my air., Amaranthe, 17-Sep-06 10:36 AM, #47
     Reply RE: I hate other people breathing my air., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 09:22 AM, #54
          Reply Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Valkenar, 18-Sep-06 10:55 AM, #61
               Reply RE: Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 01:27 PM, #68
                    Reply RE: Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Valkenar, 18-Sep-06 02:52 PM, #83
                         Reply RE: Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 03:52 PM, #84
                              Reply RE: Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Valkenar, 18-Sep-06 04:22 PM, #86
                                   Reply RE: Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 07:14 PM, #88
                                        Reply RE: Most smokers I've seen are inconsiderate, Valkenar, 18-Sep-06 08:24 PM, #90
Reply Pet Peeves, Kastellyn, 14-Sep-06 11:52 AM, #17
Reply RE: What is everyone's pet peeve?, Razoul, 12-Sep-06 06:50 PM, #5
Reply RE: What is everyone's pet peeve?, Zulghinlour, 13-Sep-06 04:59 PM, #8
     Reply RE: What is everyone's pet peeve?, Razoul, 13-Sep-06 06:51 PM, #11
          Reply RE: What is everyone's pet peeve?, Zulghinlour, 14-Sep-06 12:46 AM, #14
Reply RE: What is everyone's pet peeve?, Isildur, 11-Sep-06 03:18 PM, #1
     Reply RE: What is everyone's pet peeve?, Eskelian, 12-Sep-06 12:43 AM, #2
     Reply Early morning.. good time for some venting, Marcus_, 12-Sep-06 01:44 AM, #3
          Reply Snow and you., Eskelian, 15-Sep-06 04:38 AM, #25
          Reply Don't you have winter tires in the US? It's enforced by..., Marcus_, 16-Sep-06 11:33 AM, #43
               Reply RE: Don't you have winter tires in the US? It's enforce..., Eskelian, 18-Sep-06 09:03 AM, #52
          Reply Shakira For You, Razoul, 17-Sep-06 05:42 PM, #48
          Reply I love Shakira., Crysseara, 17-Sep-06 06:43 PM, #49
     Reply Exit lane shenanigans, nebel, 12-Sep-06 02:41 AM, #4
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