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IsildurThu 19-Apr-07 08:22 PM
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#1095, "RE: Their information goes into more detail but..."
Edited on Thu 19-Apr-07 08:25 PM

          

>One question: FairTax is 23% of the sales price that does not
>include the tax, right?

Actually that figure is misleading. It annoys me that all the FairTax material continues to use it. The truth is that the FairTax is "comparable to a 23% tax on income". In other words it's actually closer to a 30% sales tax.

The important thing that (imho) people fail to take into account when evaluating the FairTax are all the *regressive* flat taxes they already pay.

SS is currently 6.2% plus an equal employer match. That's a 12.4% flat tax (i.e. regressive) everyone pays, before income taxes even come into play.

Medicare is 2.9% split evenly between employee and employer. The two together amount to 15.3%. Worse yet (for the non-wealthy) these taxes only apply to the first $76k earned.

Added to these are federal and state unemployment tax. FUTA is 6.2% but you can take credit for any SUTA you pay. In another jab at the non-wealthy, this tax is only levied on the first $7k.

Bottom line: there's a crapload of taxes I (we) pay before even filing our income taxes.

> What's so groundbreaking about this FairTax anyway? Isn't it just a normal VAT?

It's a VAT that replaces a bunch of other taxes. It would replace the federal personal income tax, corporate taxes, capital gains tax, and estate tax. It also incorporates a "prebate" system where every adult gets a periodic payment equal to the amount someone at the poverty level would expect to pay in sales tax. The thought is that if you're *at* the poverty level then you pay no federal tax.

  

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TopicFairTax [View all] , Tac, Thu 19-Apr-07 09:24 AM
Reply RE: FairTax, Isildur, 29-Apr-07 05:07 PM, #17
Reply Has anyone tried this?, Valguarnera, 19-Apr-07 10:22 AM, #1
     Reply Their information goes into more detail but..., Tac, 19-Apr-07 10:43 AM, #2
     Reply RE: Their information goes into more detail but..., DurNominator, 19-Apr-07 01:25 PM, #4
     Reply Not quite., Tac, 19-Apr-07 02:27 PM, #5
     Reply I can already explain it now you've said the percentage, DurNominator, 21-Apr-07 01:23 AM, #13
          Reply I'm lazy and so are you, but..., Tac, 26-Apr-07 10:50 AM, #16
     Reply RE: Their information goes into more detail but..., Isildur, 19-Apr-07 08:25 PM #8
          Reply RE: Their information goes into more detail but..., DurNominator, 21-Apr-07 03:28 AM, #14
               Reply RE: Their information goes into more detail but..., Isildur, 21-Apr-07 09:37 AM, #15
     Reply RE: Their information goes into more detail but..., Isildur, 19-Apr-07 08:11 PM, #7
     Reply Re: Battle tested income tax, Tac, 19-Apr-07 12:02 PM, #3
     Reply RE: Has anyone tried this?, Isildur, 19-Apr-07 08:08 PM, #6
     Reply Pretty much., GinGa, 20-Apr-07 05:58 PM, #10
          Reply RE: Pretty much., Isildur, 20-Apr-07 06:35 PM, #11
     Reply As opposed to.., Razoul, 20-Apr-07 12:22 PM, #9
          Reply RE: As opposed to.., Isildur, 20-Apr-07 06:43 PM, #12
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