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#99596, "RE: A caveat"
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I see your point but ultimately any rogue that steals anything from anyone is considered a griefer by a vast majority of the playerbase. In fact, if you use steal at all, you are being a griefer.
All I know is this. I did not clear out people's inventories, I did not steal and run, I stole to fight. I left most of the inventory intact, if not all, if it didn't affect the outcome of the PK. But sometimes yes I stole that really shiny sword I could use. I'm a thief, I'm guilty of that.
My reputation was ultimately born on the forums with a huge amount of misinformation and false claims.
To combat that, I would have had to come to the forums and defend, which always ends up poorly, so the vocal minority, Artifical comes to mind, continued on a rampage with assumptions and out of context claims that apparently won the populous over. The stacking trap effects post was hilarious. Completely false, but so many people bought into it and used it as a club over the heads of immortals and Flaaayin.
Another prime example of this is Zorg. I kill him in Udgaard. I take one ring to lore it and return it. There is an orc and a thief there lower level. I am corpse guarding his corpse. Lowbies keep trying to take things, I keep blocking them. Keller, who Zorg called in, arrives late to help him survive. He comes after me. I have to break corpse guard to deal with him. Orc and rogue loot almost all the things. Zorg goes bitch happy on me then puts me on ignore before I can even explain. To Zorg I am a full looting asshole. Completely wrong, but oh well. How am I to combat that? I have someone doing an OOC blow up on me, saying their piece, and then putting me on ignore.
In game, I continued to treat most of my enemies with respect. I did not full loot those that completely full looted me, and I returned things as needed. No, not all the time, I was not a beautiful and wonderful snowflake, but ultimately I was extremely nice. Orb mentions that on some points I did take non-magical containers, I certainly did, and usually from repeat assholes who constantly screamed at me in OOC ways. And even they sometimes got things returned to them, or put them in a place for them to get. Those that survived didn't even want to be near me so usually didn't want the containers anyway out of paranoia.
So ultimately I could not do anything about the image because it was born on the boards. In game, if that is my reputation, what would you do to combat that? I wasn't griefing and the silent majority knew that. Am I supposed to be extra nice and Dawn like? Blah. I still had a roleplay to continue and proactively going out and being super nice to change that reputation doesn't fit at all the roleplay of a chaotic evil Drillmaster that doesn't ultimately care about other peoples' opinions anyway.
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(AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated by De...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Sun 05-Jun-11 10:04 AM
Very well done,
Mharlndarn (Anonymous),
26-May-11 02:42 PM, #117
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
HammerSong,
26-May-11 11:21 PM, #107
There are instances when sportsmanship clearly contradi...,
Shapa,
27-May-11 06:05 AM, #109
RE: There are instances when sportsmanship clearly cont...,
HammerSong,
27-May-11 07:58 AM, #110
One more example of that deception based roleplay.,
Shapa,
27-May-11 10:25 AM, #111
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Stunna,
27-May-11 11:48 AM, #112
Therans rejoice!,
Chulun (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:34 PM, #93
I really like the player of Flaaayin,
Tsunami,
25-May-11 02:41 PM, #79
A caveat,
MoetEtChandon,
25-May-11 04:09 PM, #83
RE: A caveat,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 04:35 PM #84
I suck at not posting I guess.,
Artificial,
25-May-11 04:59 PM, #85
I apologize then.,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 05:05 PM, #86
Sorry,
Nevaelle (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:07 PM, #91
FEH!,
Norington (Anonymous),
26-May-11 07:23 AM, #97
Yeah, I don't pretend to know the answer myself,
MoetEtChandon,
25-May-11 05:15 PM, #87
For what it's worth,
Keller (Anonymous),
25-May-11 06:14 PM, #88
This post made me laugh.,
Allysia (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:27 PM, #92
RE: A caveat,
HammerSong,
28-May-11 09:20 AM, #113
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Aliathius (Anonymous),
25-May-11 07:52 AM, #32
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Drasdan (Anonymous),
25-May-11 06:50 AM, #27
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:24 AM, #38
Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
24-May-11 11:26 PM, #17
You were awesome.,
Tac,
24-May-11 11:48 PM, #18
great spin,
Artificial,
24-May-11 11:49 PM, #19
We get it.,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
25-May-11 06:35 AM, #26
Hes got another 20+ crying at Dios about Flaaayin too,
Oldril,
25-May-11 08:32 AM, #35
Last one, no vitriol,
Artificial,
25-May-11 12:34 PM, #69
Every class can maledict,
Oldril,
25-May-11 12:36 PM, #70
Not for the role I was playing. nt,
Artificial,
25-May-11 12:39 PM, #71
Fair enough,
Oldril,
25-May-11 01:15 PM, #74
I can agree with that.nt,
Artificial,
25-May-11 01:18 PM, #75
Whether or not I agree with you, I think you have the w...,
Batman (Anonymous),
25-May-11 06:45 PM, #89
RE: great spin,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:25 AM, #39
RE: great spin,
ORB,
25-May-11 02:04 PM, #78
He's right about the post, though.,
DurNominator,
26-May-11 01:32 PM, #103
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Borkahd,
25-May-11 12:03 AM, #20
Respect.,
Hralpelk (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:05 AM, #21
RE: Respect.,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:33 AM, #42
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Rhone (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:32 AM, #22
Hah! According to this you think I'm a skilled player! ...,
Sarto (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:39 AM, #23
RE: Hah! According to this you think I'm a skilled play...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:35 AM, #43
Man, did I hate you with passion!,
Murphy,
25-May-11 02:28 AM, #24
Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few things,
Abernyte,
25-May-11 03:36 AM, #25
RE: Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few th...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:31 AM, #41
As I said, I have no hate for you or the character,
Abernyte,
26-May-11 03:25 AM, #96
RE: Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few th...,
Graatch,
26-May-11 11:26 AM, #98
This attitude is why the village gets owned,
Oldril,
26-May-11 11:39 AM, #99
May be so, but thems the rules,
Tsunami,
26-May-11 12:05 PM, #100
Villagers own people all the time.,
lasentia,
26-May-11 01:03 PM, #102
RE: This attitude is why the village gets owned,
Graatch,
26-May-11 07:01 PM, #105
RE: Not hate but felt you were very lucky with a few th...,
Isildur,
26-May-11 12:59 PM, #101
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Bajula,
25-May-11 07:19 AM, #28
Wow,
Zeikal,
04-Jun-11 02:05 PM, #114
RE: Wow,
Bajula,
05-Jun-11 05:21 AM, #115
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Kariya (Anonymous),
25-May-11 07:26 AM, #29
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:37 AM, #44
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Kariya (Anonymous),
25-May-11 11:18 AM, #58
Good spin but...,
ORB,
25-May-11 07:39 AM, #30
RE: Good spin but...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:44 AM, #45
sad to see the one of the only 2 villagers worthy of a ...,
Smoberti (Anonymous),
25-May-11 07:47 AM, #31
RE: sad to see the one of the only 2 villagers worthy o...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:53 AM, #46
No big hate,
Nevaelle (Anonymous),
25-May-11 07:58 AM, #33
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
25-May-11 08:14 AM, #34
You will be greatly missed Drillmaster.,
Olum (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:20 AM, #36
It's always fun having characters like this around...,
Nnaeshuk,
25-May-11 09:20 AM, #37
From many perspectives...,
Twist,
25-May-11 09:26 AM, #40
RE: From many perspectives...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:14 AM, #47
Yeah I should quantify...,
Twist,
25-May-11 10:49 AM, #54
One more thing :),
TMNS,
25-May-11 11:33 AM, #60
RE: Yeah I should quantify...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 11:58 AM, #63
Oh and one other thing to keep in mind...,
Twist,
25-May-11 12:13 PM, #68
I agree with most of this. Just one thing...,
TMNS,
25-May-11 10:33 AM, #51
Roleplaying vs Sportsmanship,
Nevaelle (Anonymous),
25-May-11 02:01 PM, #77
No. You need to grow up,
Bavorlian (Anonymous),
25-May-11 03:46 PM, #81
Not always, exactly for the reason you mentioned yourse...,
MoetEtChandon,
25-May-11 03:58 PM, #82
As an aged-deathed drillmaster on the pillar,
Hyshrawr (Anonymous),
27-May-11 03:31 AM, #108
For Flaaayin. My favorite moment of us.,
TMNS,
25-May-11 10:22 AM, #49
And right after that...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:10 PM, #66
Yeah it was like 250 gold lol.,
TMNS,
26-May-11 10:04 PM, #106
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Volker (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:45 AM, #52
Think he may have been talking about Volkov!,
TMNS,
25-May-11 11:36 AM, #62
Great Character,
Hopelessdwarf,
25-May-11 10:45 AM, #53
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Sivyh (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:57 AM, #55
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:06 PM, #64
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Aelozzosot (Anonymous),
25-May-11 01:28 PM, #76
You sure could fubar groups and individuals.,
Quixotic,
25-May-11 10:59 AM, #56
See under Sivyh post above n/t,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:06 PM, #65
Don't mind the haters. Good char. nt,
Marcus_,
25-May-11 11:30 AM, #59
Still, that's exactly what I thought about the characte...,
MoetEtChandon,
25-May-11 11:41 AM, #61
Awesome,
Sikkak (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:40 PM, #72
RE: Awesome,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 12:57 PM, #73
My most deadly enemy,
Bavorlian (Anonymous),
25-May-11 03:19 PM, #80
I found you incredibly frustrating,
Oringus (Anonymous),
25-May-11 09:20 PM, #90
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Gryshilniar,
26-May-11 12:22 AM, #94
RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game? Fat chance...,
Ghurn (Anonymous),
26-May-11 01:33 AM, #95
I actually liked Flaaayin...,
Irelia,
26-May-11 06:14 PM, #104
Great char!,
Oldril,
24-May-11 09:29 PM, #15
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!,
Tesline,
24-May-11 09:17 PM, #14
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Zun (Anonymous),
24-May-11 08:49 PM, #13
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Volker (Anonymous),
24-May-11 08:47 PM, #12
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Murphy,
24-May-11 09:35 PM, #67
I gotta be honest, it was a pain, but,
Sarto (Anonymous),
24-May-11 08:46 PM, #11
Flaaayin was the worst character I ever interacted with...,
ibuki,
24-May-11 07:44 PM, #8
RE: Flaaayin was the worst character I ever interacted ...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:18 AM, #48
Whew, about time.,
Aelozzosot (Anonymous),
24-May-11 07:41 PM, #7
I always said time was the only thing that would kill y...,
Allysia (Anonymous),
24-May-11 07:37 PM, #6
RE: I always said time was the only thing that would ki...,
Flaaayin (Anonymous),
25-May-11 10:27 AM, #50
RE: I always said time was the only thing that would ki...,
Allysia (Anonymous),
25-May-11 11:15 AM, #57
It was an honor playing alongside you.,
Homard,
24-May-11 07:35 PM, #5
"feared" is sort of an awkward word to use.,
Artificial,
24-May-11 08:04 PM, #9
Ok that made me laugh...n/t,
Lightmage,
24-May-11 08:13 PM, #10
Nice analogy. nt,
Stunna,
24-May-11 11:03 PM, #16
Dude, you fear the racoon and his leet squirrel friends...,
wikataw,
05-Jun-11 09:24 AM, #116
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Zorg (Anonymous),
24-May-11 06:05 PM, #3
Rantings of a mage,
witness (Anonymous),
24-May-11 06:31 PM, #4
RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Flaaayin the Harlequin Hated b...,
Woe be Battle n/t (Anonymous),
24-May-11 05:28 PM, #2
Just a superb job.,
TMNS,
24-May-11 05:22 PM, #1
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