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Susu (Guest)Thu 18-Jun-09 12:22 PM

  
#81655, "RE: - an addendum"


          

You're not getting it, and I don't know why, so I'll try a last time, in short.

The character thror did nothing wrong.

The player did. Why? Because you're not, in fact, omniscient, and not, in fact, online 24/7. Just like you said in the Tabius thread, imms dont actually see everything, know everything, aren't online 24/7. The decision to go visible and act as the character is an ooc decision. If you hadn't been online, it wouldn't have happened. It's not as though "Thror" would have done this no matter what. It only happened because you happened to be online, and decided to make yourself visible, and do what you did. That's purely ooc, purely a player decision.

The ooc fact of you're being online, and the ooc choice to go from wizi and unknown to the players to visible and known to the players was yours, not "thror"'s, and that's what I'm talking about. The theory that imm's are omniscient is all well and good in-game but we know better, and it's a choice by each imm-player when to use that knowledge or even try to get it. And of course it's also driven by when you're actually on-line or not, an ooc thing. And you decided that you were going to interrupt a 2 hour event created by a mortal to tell the players to do what they always did anyway, and that would be done for months to come. Just doesn't make sense.

  

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HOT Locked Topic(AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift Strok... [View all] , Death_Angel, Tue 16-Jun-09 04:11 PM
Reply Locking this for both Thror and Graach's benefit nt, Rayihn, 18-Jun-09 12:40 PM, #96
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., NotaHater (Guest), 18-Jun-09 03:20 AM, #89
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:26 PM, #95
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., HammerSong, 16-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #52
Reply I still maintain,, Forsakenz (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:35 PM, #53
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 17-Jun-09 12:17 AM, #57
     Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., HammerSong, 17-Jun-09 02:12 PM, #67
     Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 17-Jun-09 11:41 PM, #76
          Reply ####in' wow. Wow. -nt-, Mek (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:30 AM, #88
          Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., HammerSong, 18-Jun-09 08:18 AM, #90
          Reply - an addendum, HammerSong, 18-Jun-09 09:36 AM, #91
          Reply RE: - an addendum, Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:22 PM #94
          Reply how do you write the same thing over and over again, Jhyrbian, 18-Jun-09 10:27 AM, #92
               Reply Winner winner chicken dinner. (nt)., Iunna, 18-Jun-09 10:30 AM, #93
     Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Iunna, 17-Jun-09 05:54 PM, #74
Reply All I can say is, well done, to hell with the haters, Rogue, 16-Jun-09 08:32 PM, #36
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susubienko, 16-Jun-09 08:26 PM, #35
Reply Ain't nuthin' but a G thing baby., Iunna, 16-Jun-09 08:44 PM, #37
Reply RE: Ain't nuthin' but a G thing baby., Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:23 PM, #44
     Reply Wow, don't bother talking to him Iunna, dude belongs in..., N b M (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:26 PM, #46
     Reply You are just an idiot, sir. n/t, Elhe (Guest), 17-Jun-09 04:12 AM, #61
          Reply go back to Eastern Road.~, Aodh, 17-Jun-09 12:16 PM, #65
     Reply RE: Ain't nuthin' but a G thing baby., Iunna, 16-Jun-09 09:59 PM, #51
          Reply No need to be ambiguous, Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:45 PM, #55
               Reply Not to fan any flames, Mek (Guest), 17-Jun-09 12:20 AM, #58
               Reply RE: Not to fan any flames, Susu (Guest), 17-Jun-09 12:26 AM, #59
               Reply RE: Not to fan any flames, Splntrd, 17-Jun-09 05:18 PM, #72
               Reply RE: Not to fan any flames, Daevryn, 17-Jun-09 05:24 PM, #73
                    Reply RE: Not to fan any flames, Susu (Guest), 17-Jun-09 11:47 PM, #77
                    Reply One other thing, Susu (Guest), 17-Jun-09 11:49 PM, #78
               Reply Yea, I agree with this post, for what it's worth. nt, Stunna1 (Guest), 17-Jun-09 06:21 PM, #75
               Reply RE: No need to be ambiguous, Nacklewig (Guest), 17-Jun-09 12:17 PM, #66
               Reply Response, Ghrummin (Guest), 17-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #69
               Reply Incidentally, this wasn't the convo I was talking about..., Iunna, 17-Jun-09 01:22 PM, #68
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., N b M (Guest), 16-Jun-09 08:47 PM, #38
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:21 PM, #43
     Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., N b M (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:24 PM, #45
Reply Just wow, Lobo!! Man you used to be the Bane of nexus, ..., Rogue, 16-Jun-09 08:49 PM, #39
Reply WTF Graatch, how as a working did you play this much?, Aeinrez (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:04 PM, #40
Reply RE: WTF Graatch, how as a working did you play this muc..., Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:18 PM, #42
Reply Good luck with the new job, man., Aeinrez (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:27 PM, #47
Reply RE: Good luck with the new job, man., Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:33 PM, #48
Reply RE: Good luck with the new job, man., Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:34 PM, #49
Reply sociopath meets angstyteen = susubienko vs tabius, mageplayer (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:37 PM, #50
Reply Quiter, Kjrorh (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:38 PM, #54
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Yean, 17-Jun-09 12:40 AM, #60
Reply This is exactly why I try to avoid him, N b M (Guest), 17-Jun-09 11:50 AM, #64
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:00 AM, #80
Reply I liked Susu for being a rager that people were worried..., Abernytee (Guest), 17-Jun-09 06:25 AM, #62
Reply Question for you, Onlooker (Guest), 17-Jun-09 11:49 AM, #63
Reply While my interactions with you are limited, Taichabel (Guest), 17-Jun-09 01:59 PM, #70
Reply RE: While my interactions with you are limited, Susu (Guest), 17-Jun-09 11:51 PM, #79
Reply Eh, no big deal., Khalla (Guest), 17-Jun-09 04:47 PM, #71
     Reply RE: Eh, no big deal., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:04 AM, #81
Reply No, sir. I don't like it., smashtroo (Guest), 16-Jun-09 06:48 PM, #33
Reply sorry about the complaint, Elenia (Guest), 16-Jun-09 06:01 PM, #32
Reply RE: sorry about the complaint, Susu (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:18 PM, #41
Reply Skilled at assassinate, Gahdak (Guest), 16-Jun-09 04:16 PM, #30
Reply That was a great fight., Malakhi (Guest), 16-Jun-09 04:30 PM, #31
Reply Please do not waste our time with useless trolls on thi..., Rayihn, 16-Jun-09 04:12 PM, #29
Reply Nt - means No Text - and you, Beront (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:47 PM, #56
Reply Bleh!, Nacklewig (Guest), 16-Jun-09 01:32 PM, #28
Reply It was, Ahtieli2 (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:45 AM, #24
Reply You complete me. NT, Evgeni Malkin (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:47 AM, #25
Reply Just because no one else has expounded on it yet., Raewol (Guest), 16-Jun-09 11:39 AM, #23
Reply RE: Just because no one else has expounded on it yet., Daevryn, 16-Jun-09 01:03 PM, #27
Reply A couple things:, Iunna, 16-Jun-09 07:06 PM, #34
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Lohik (Guest), 16-Jun-09 10:02 AM, #22
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:06 AM, #82
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Bartis (Guest), 16-Jun-09 09:31 AM, #21
Reply Oh, and I forgot I found the Hammerhand comments pretty..., Bartis (Guest), 16-Jun-09 12:00 PM, #26
Reply grats, Aodh, 16-Jun-09 08:39 AM, #20
Reply Because I can't help myself..., Aeinrez (Guest), 16-Jun-09 04:47 AM, #18
Reply This character's PBF inspires morbid curiousity in me....., Aeinrez (Guest), 16-Jun-09 04:54 AM, #19
Reply I won't lie, I didn't like you., Cimere (Guest), 16-Jun-09 03:39 AM, #17
Reply RE: I won't lie, I didn't like you., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:09 AM, #83
Reply The little bird with the nasty beak..., Arrna (Guest), 16-Jun-09 03:05 AM, #15
Reply RE: The little bird with the nasty beak..., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:12 AM, #84
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., mageplayer (Guest), 16-Jun-09 02:24 AM, #14
Reply What can I say., Malakhi (Guest), 16-Jun-09 12:22 AM, #9
Reply Ahh, Su-su-subienko.., Khalla (Guest), 16-Jun-09 01:20 AM, #10
     Reply I need to learn how to reply to the right message appar..., Khalla (Guest), 16-Jun-09 01:25 AM, #11
Reply Makes me feel good I was your first pk death., Thrallin (Guest), 16-Jun-09 12:11 AM, #7
Reply Engurd has no talent, CD (Guest), 16-Jun-09 12:16 AM, #8
Reply Yhorian?, Aeinrez (Guest), 15-Jun-09 10:55 PM, #5
Reply RP wasn't good enough to be Yhorian. nt, Forsakenz (Guest), 15-Jun-09 11:38 PM, #6
Reply I'm sorry I thought this was you, Yhorian., Aeinrez (Guest), 16-Jun-09 02:14 AM, #12
     Reply I take back anything good I had to say about this char...., Aeinrez (Guest), 16-Jun-09 02:15 AM, #13
          Reply Relax, look at his pk ratio, he sucked badly, Beront (Guest), 16-Jun-09 03:10 AM, #16
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Kalderseg (Guest), 15-Jun-09 10:53 PM, #4
Reply Sqwakbeak!, Ghrummin (Guest), 15-Jun-09 08:52 PM, #3
Reply RE: Sqwakbeak!, Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:16 AM, #85
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Vythigor (Guest), 15-Jun-09 07:59 PM, #2
Reply RE: (AGE DEATH) [BATTLE] Susubienko Glomska the Swift S..., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:22 AM, #86
Reply Deadly. Good Villager., Woldrun (Guest), 15-Jun-09 07:53 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Deadly. Good Villager., Susu (Guest), 18-Jun-09 12:25 AM, #87
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