>Yeah, I gotta say, I think this was a ####ish move. You've
>been a good guy over the years and I don't think it's a game
>changer, but really, it was total crap. Let's be honest, it
>was *not* an ic thing.
>
>- How was is it not an IC thing for the God of Battle to not
>want a Lich dead? Please try to justify why it wouldn't be in
>my interest to see it happen.

Come on, don't play games. You were online but wizi. You were 100% ooc, being staff, not being "Thror". Nobody knew you were around, you didn't have to say or do anything ic. It was a choice you made. You decided to vis and say something. Nothing forced you to do that, it was you the player deciding that you wanted people to do something, so you went vis, went ic, and made them do it. *That's* the ooc decision, and that's what matters. The question is, why did you do it?

Obviously every rager and every rager imm always wants every mage dead all the time. There is never a time you wouldn't want mages dead. But everyone knows that's not possible. You have to sleep. You have to eat. You have to train. Etc. This was exactly that.

What makes it worse is that you chose this one unique night to do it. The lich has been around what, six months? A year? And it's a lich, it can't age die. And it's not in any jeopardy of con dying. So why was that one particular night the night you felt you needed to vis and go ic and do what you did? There was no reason. It was an event being held specifically to make them better fighters, it was an rp event, and it was a one time only thing. You chose to step in and ruin the second half of it. Yes, of course "Thror" wants a lich dead. But no more than everyone else. And you, the player, decided to assume that role and go vis and enforce that desire. There was no need to, and it was a bad decision.

Please don't try to justify it as some ic decision. If that were the case, where were Yean and Kastelyn and Ysal and any other battle god? They want the same thing as much as anyone. But they didn't step in and call off the event midway through. Why? Because either they didn't think it was a good idea to do so, or because they weren't there. I'm guessing the latter. A purely ooc thing. Just like you're decision to go from wizi imm to vis thror was a pure ooc decision. You could have waited until it was over and then said something like "Well, finally, I'm glad you're done with all that, now go use what you learned and bring me that lich's bony head!" or something like that. But instead you chose to interrupt and mess up a player driven event. Bad form.

>- I was around for the Drill but not visible. I felt like
>doing so would warrant a 'reward' of sorts from you and I
>guess my gut feeling was right.
>

So you're saying you stayed wizi, a decision you made before it even started, because you wanted to make sure you wouldn't give the character some sort of reward? Really? Don't you think that's petty? And let's be clear, when I said people usually get some sort of reward, I specifically said it was trivial, a pat on the head. A statement from the imm saying "Good job" or literally 1xp. Nothing that actually benefits the character, but just conveys the thought. And you didn't even want to do that. Way to inspire and encourage people to try and create rp and activities for the mud.

>So why this one night, the one unique night when a player had
>organized and sponsored an event, did you choose to make a
>point of saying people should hunt the lich?
>
>- I had actually been online for roughly every night in the
>past two weeks at the same time. The same members of Battle
>people had been online every night prior to this drill with
>absolutely no competition. The night that you held the drill
>held about 6 transmuters, and a lich to deal with. There sat
>the village, playing pattie-cake while casters ran around
>uncontested. From an OOC perspective, I felt like I shouldn't
>interrupt but from an IC perspective that just wasn't
>acceptable.
>

See, you knew it was wrong, but you did it anyway. YOU aren't Thror, you're a game administrator. You knew what you were doing was wrong and going to ruin a player activity, and really not for any good reason. Everyone hunts the lich and the mages all the time. These two game hours weren't going to change anything. Except by either encouraging or discouraging player driven rp. You sadly chose the latter.

>And as an aside, if you look at pbf's, you'll see that anyone
>who ever sponsors and runs an event gets some imm love for it,
>even if it's just a minute 20 xp, just a pat on the head to
>say hey, good job, thanks for doing it. Susu got nothing.
>
>- I don't think people should feel entitled to rewards. I'm
>still very old school and you have to do something that really
>impresses me to get any form of a reward. Is this wrong?
>Probably. I still have a lot of Imm culture to catch up to.

See my point above. We're not talking about getting anything actually useful, like an edge or real immxp or any of that. We're talking about something that simply conveys the "Hey, cool, thanks for doing it, way to be proactive and bring more rp and action to the mud without having to wait for imm driven events."

In any event, like I said in my first post, I like you and I think you were a good imm back then and I'm sure you'll continue in that. This was one bad decision. I go through it now because I think it's something to consider for the future. If this were another player, a newer one perhaps, I imagine he or she would be much more turned off to the mud, feeling like he or she'd been flipped off for doing what they thought was something the staff wanted. That's all I guess.