khratetch that I saw never level sat, unless I just plain never saw him, period, until he became chancellor. I will admit I was wondering just who the hell that person was

Do I think you and bonthos wont ever rank to hero ranks? Likely you will both delete before then, especially when all a sudden you will be level 40 being able to fight heroes, lose your weapon, and be in worse situations than you are now.
That applies mainly to you more than bonthos, since its much easier as a tribbie.

Mmm, I will be the first to say my a-p got to level 51 in 100 hours or so, he never got a great weapon because I made him when maran were kickass, this was I wanna say a year and a half ago. I had every control by 150 hours but the last. Go go gadget fire gian vuln mental and all the bards then owwie.
Its not a macho thing. I see myself as playing this game with a whole bunch of other people. I try to be a player worth playing against / playing with. I do have that standard. Then there are people who play like you, really not worth playing against or with, and yeah I would prefer just about anyone or anything to you. Then there are the people that play only for the modified slay command, made worse by attitudes of greatness. These people are beyond stupid in their playstyle, ability, and how pathetic they are, but it still ruins far and wide any want whim and will of any form of interaction with such chars or wants of being any part of this place.
Though yeah I can see why you call it a macho thing. Im a guy with hairy armpits, I am macho man!