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LyristeonSun 09-Nov-08 08:11 AM
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#73935, "Some insight."


          

>I don't know if you'd remember me, because at least according
>to the logs I've seen you do this kind of thing all the time,
>but I'd like at least a little insight to a specific
>incident.
>
>I, was an evil chaotic ranger. I don't believe I had any (grey
>aura) stuff on, but I might be wrong there. In fact, I was
>planning on apping to outlander and thus needing to talk to
>you as nightreaver for an interview. However, while I was
>ranking on the elves in the past with one other fellow (also
>evil, I believe chaotic, certainly not orderly anyway) a
>non-outlander-hunted race (arial) and definately not
>affiliated with tribunal in any way shape or form. You came up
>to us, and without a word, threat, warning, etc, started
>summoning more elves to us, and plagueing the ones we were
>fighting.
>No word of explaination, no declaration of holy anger from
>your god, and as far as I could tell abolutely no reason to be
>doing this to us other than wanting to grief lowbies.

The enemies of the Nightreaver side of Outlander are many. They don't really have any allies. Tribunal isn't the only enemy. Empire, Scion and Fortress are definitely going to be your enemies. Since Nexus is going to attack you when the balance is shifted, an evil Outlander isn't going to forgive them and will probably attack them even when they would be an ally. Ragers are full of dwarves and duergar, so they become enemies. Not all of them are, but, by then, an evil Outlander may start attacking them on sight. Heralds live in a civilized establishment that caters to folks from civilization. They even think of the Harbinger and Sunwarden branches of Outlander as "future food". They use them to advance, protect the fetish etc. So, who are their allies? Basically any evil outcast from society who may or may not be another evil Outlander.

>
>You can imagine that after that I was hesitant to *want* to
>join outlander if that was the kind of thing the *nightreaver*
>was doing, and even more hesitant to want to talk to YOU after
>having you do that to my character.
>
> I'm usually the guy who shouts "Hey, don't condemn him! You
>don't know his RP, maybe only HE is allowed to kill elves!"
>But in this situation my character and I as the player could
>not see any explaination for your actions, nor would you offer
>one up. This left me with few options, this character was
>created to join outlander and now the nightreaver comes and
>####s with me.
>
>How should I of roleplayed this? I couldn't justify my evil
>vengeful dude just forgetting this incident and trying to suck
>up to Aunk anyway, and I also couldn't justify as a *player*
>trying to level to hero to try to kill the guy who could get
>me into the cabal I rolled this character to join in the first
>place.

This isn't empire. You don't forget and suck it up. Aunkdunell inducted evil folks that were right for the cabal. If you are playing a subservient evil trying to impress a Nightreaver, all you are going to do is piss him off. At least that's what I would expect my Nightreaver to do.

>
>Though I wouldn't say this incident was the soul reason I lost
>interest in this character, it definately was a contributing
>factor.
>So I'd just like a little explaination to try to find any
>actual reason you did this, and want to let you know your
>behavior *IS* in fact helping to drive what little playerbase
>we still have away from this game.

Meh. The numbers don't really support the above statement. Numbers aren't what they were 10 years ago. We all know it. But, I see the daily numbers hitting the 60's during peak hours all the time. People get older, find other things to do and move on. That is the largest factor of lower numbers in the playerbase.

  

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HOT Locked Topic(DELETED) [OUTLANDER] Aunkdunell the Vile Primordial Oo... [View all] , Death_Angel, Fri 14-Nov-08 03:01 PM
Reply Really Like Aunk..., Greh (Guest), 11-Nov-08 06:30 AM, #100
Reply Some goodbyes, lots of ramblings., Rogue, 09-Nov-08 11:01 PM, #72
Reply small addendum, Rogue, 09-Nov-08 11:08 PM, #73
Reply RE: small addendum, Sionel, 10-Nov-08 11:11 AM, #85
Reply RE: small addendum, Rogue, 11-Nov-08 08:41 AM, #102
Reply RE: small addendum, Tlingit (Guest), 10-Nov-08 12:47 PM, #86
Reply In regards to looting/saccing, Tlingit (Guest), 10-Nov-08 03:17 PM, #88
Reply RE: small addendum, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 07:22 PM, #90
Reply Yo dude, Beer, 13-Nov-08 06:39 PM, #108
     Reply I dont think so, Rogue guest (Guest), 14-Nov-08 06:59 AM, #109
          Reply RE: I dont think so, Beer, 14-Nov-08 02:39 PM, #110
               Reply What about the time, Shifter (Guest), 14-Nov-08 05:19 PM, #112
Reply Roll a mute paladin next time, please. NT, TheManNamedSam (Guest), 10-Nov-08 12:35 AM, #78
Reply Thanks for the induct..., Savastano (Guest), 10-Nov-08 08:40 AM, #84
Reply Very welcome, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 07:28 PM, #92
Reply Cool char., Lightmaged (Guest), 10-Nov-08 03:27 PM, #89
     Reply Thanks bro, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 07:25 PM, #91
Reply RE: (DELETED) [OUTLANDER] Aunkdunell the Vile Primordia..., Ruhktanshi, 09-Nov-08 04:03 PM, #34
Reply RE: (DELETED) [OUTLANDER] Aunkdunell the Vile Primordia..., Rogue, 09-Nov-08 11:30 PM, #76
     Reply RE: (DELETED) [OUTLANDER] Aunkdunell the Vile Primordia..., Eleia (Guest), 10-Nov-08 04:40 AM, #81
          Reply There's a good reason you fail to see why, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 07:01 AM, #83
          Reply Fun times, lesikinilt (Guest), 10-Nov-08 02:40 PM, #87
               Reply We had some good ones, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 07:32 PM, #93
          Reply Interesting conclusion about bards, Seyriannia (Guest), 11-Nov-08 05:55 PM, #104
               Reply RE: Interesting conclusion about bards, Eleia (Guest), 13-Nov-08 05:15 PM, #106
                    Reply I'd say I mostly agree with this statement. NT, TheManNamedSam (Guest), 13-Nov-08 06:19 PM, #107
Reply This one is for Nep and Lyr, Torak, 09-Nov-08 03:45 PM, #28
Reply RE: This one is for Nep and Lyr, Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 04:07 PM, #37
     Reply If you really want to be picky, you would need times, Torak, 09-Nov-08 04:12 PM, #39
     Reply Numbers., Forsakenz (Guest), 09-Nov-08 05:10 PM, #49
          Reply Addendum., Forsakenz (Guest), 09-Nov-08 05:14 PM, #50
          Reply RE: Addendum., Daevryn, 09-Nov-08 05:57 PM, #53
          Reply Just out of curiosity.., Java, 09-Nov-08 06:12 PM, #57
               Reply I think I had about 500 hours of bitching going my way ..., Seyriannia (Guest), 09-Nov-08 06:45 PM, #59
          Reply RE: Addendum., Erylaina (Guest), 11-Nov-08 12:02 PM, #103
          Reply Nice stats, thanks for the info, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 09:05 PM, #96
          Reply RE: Numbers., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 05:38 PM, #111
               Reply Except..., Forsakenz (Guest), 09-Nov-08 05:56 PM, #52
               Reply RE: Numbers., incognito, 09-Nov-08 05:59 PM, #54
                    Reply RE: Numbers., Isildur, 09-Nov-08 06:33 PM, #58
                    Reply My method for this, Mek (Guest), 09-Nov-08 07:10 PM, #61
                    Reply RE: Numbers., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 08:36 PM, #67
Reply RE: (DELETED) [OUTLANDER] Aunkdunell the Vile Primordia..., Lierieng (Guest), 09-Nov-08 03:40 AM, #9
Reply I'd like a little explaination, Travyse (Guest), 08-Nov-08 06:42 PM, #7
Reply Some insight., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 08:11 AM #10
Reply Declining player base is the Godwin's law of CF forums, Theerkla, 09-Nov-08 09:30 AM, #12
Reply Its like you refuse to see, Guy (Guest), 09-Nov-08 11:39 AM, #13
Reply There is, Daevryn, 09-Nov-08 11:57 AM, #21
Reply You pretty much ignored his entire point..., Java, 09-Nov-08 11:55 AM, #14
Reply You should..., ExNightreaver (Guest), 09-Nov-08 09:10 AM, #11
Reply As a Nightreaver.., Java, 09-Nov-08 11:57 AM, #15
     Reply RE: As a Nightreaver.., ExNightreaver (Guest), 09-Nov-08 12:22 PM, #16
          Reply More to the point..., ExNightreaver (Guest), 09-Nov-08 12:26 PM, #17
               Reply Except.., Java, 09-Nov-08 12:49 PM, #18
               Reply Now that his PBF is out..., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 01:05 PM, #19
                    Reply Well..., Java, 09-Nov-08 01:32 PM, #20
                         Reply I agree...to a point., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 02:48 PM, #22
                              Reply This is pretty terrible, AXera, 09-Nov-08 03:19 PM, #24
                              Reply RE: This is pretty terrible, Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 03:37 PM, #26
                                   Reply I am quickly losing faith in you.., Java, 09-Nov-08 03:48 PM, #29
                                   Reply He was not rewarded for it., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 03:54 PM, #31
                                   Reply I actually got about the same.., Java, 09-Nov-08 04:03 PM, #35
                                        Reply RE: I actually got about the same.., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 04:14 PM, #40
                                             Reply Fine, but.., Java, 09-Nov-08 04:17 PM, #41
                                                  Reply RE: Fine, but.., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 04:28 PM, #43
                                                       Reply I think the point's been missed..., Interjection (Guest), 09-Nov-08 04:37 PM, #44
                                                       Reply My character was better for the game., Java, 09-Nov-08 04:38 PM, #46
                                                            Reply This is where we are going to disagree., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 05:08 PM, #47
                                                            Reply But what you're missing..., Java, 09-Nov-08 06:03 PM, #55
                                   Reply RE: I am quickly losing faith in you.., Daevryn, 09-Nov-08 05:55 PM, #51
                                        Reply I can actually buy that.., Java, 09-Nov-08 06:07 PM, #56
                                             Reply Maybe you're focusing on the bad., Balrahd. (Guest), 09-Nov-08 07:24 PM, #62
                                                  Reply RE: Maybe you're focusing on the bad., Balrahd. (Guest), 09-Nov-08 07:25 PM, #63
                                                       Reply Cosign., Marcus_, 11-Nov-08 08:20 AM, #101
                                   Reply Doing the same thing is not getting even, incognito, 09-Nov-08 04:03 PM, #33
                                        Reply I see your point, but..., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 05:01 PM, #48
                                             Reply A suggestion, incognito, 09-Nov-08 06:59 PM, #60
                                                  Reply RE: A suggestion, Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 08:26 PM, #66
                              Reply As I said before, incognito, 09-Nov-08 03:59 PM, #32
                              Reply What must be said though, incognito, 09-Nov-08 04:23 PM, #42
                              Reply Small snippet from a recent death of his., Alietrius, 09-Nov-08 07:54 PM, #64
                                   Reply RE: Small snippet from a recent death of his., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 08:41 PM, #69
               Reply Yet all of Rogue's characters have 'Nightreaver' licens..., TheManNamedSam (Guest), 09-Nov-08 02:56 PM, #23
                    Reply Rewarding him?, Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 03:21 PM, #25
                         Reply Yes, those are all rewards., Java, 09-Nov-08 03:38 PM, #27
                         Reply RE: Yes, those are all rewards., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 03:53 PM, #30
                         Reply Leadership is a reward in itself, not an excuse to hide..., Java, 09-Nov-08 04:06 PM, #36
                         Reply *snicker*, amusedobserver (Guest), 10-Nov-08 05:17 AM, #82
                              Reply I think you miss the point, incognito, 11-Nov-08 05:01 AM, #99
                         Reply Rewards, incognito, 09-Nov-08 04:08 PM, #38
                         Reply Heh...Victoria rocked...here's the proof., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 04:38 PM, #45
                              Reply I'm still trying to figure out what this statement mean..., CraftedD (Guest), 09-Nov-08 08:02 PM, #65
                                   Reply Apparently.., Java, 09-Nov-08 08:37 PM, #68
                                        Reply That's not fair at all., Lyristeon, 09-Nov-08 08:45 PM, #70
                                        Reply Apparently, you are being purposefully obtuse., Nivek1, 09-Nov-08 09:00 PM, #71
                         Reply Heh, I'm actually just using Rogue's words., TheManNamedSam (Guest), 10-Nov-08 12:33 AM, #77
                              Reply Right, and Burork was just outstanding, wasn't he?, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 12:52 AM, #79
                                   Reply When did I ever say RobDarken knew how to RP?, TheManNamedSam (Guest), 10-Nov-08 04:05 AM, #80
                                        Reply RE: When did I ever say RobDarken knew how to RP?, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 07:51 PM, #94
                                             Reply What?, TheManNamedSam (Guest), 10-Nov-08 08:27 PM, #95
                                             Reply Ahh,. sorry, Rogue, 10-Nov-08 09:29 PM, #97
                                             Reply You say a lot of profoundly, amazingly stupid ####.~, Aodh, 11-Nov-08 01:38 AM, #98
                                             Reply This is just wrong., GinGa, 12-Nov-08 11:35 AM, #105
Reply Hmm, Rogue, 09-Nov-08 11:24 PM, #75
Reply That's too bad., Alzinghul (Guest), 08-Nov-08 12:39 PM, #4
Reply RE: (DELETED) [OUTLANDER] Aunkdunell the Vile Primordia..., Baiahlan (Guest), 07-Nov-08 10:27 PM, #3
Reply Say goodnight to the Bad Guy, Rogue guest (Guest), 08-Nov-08 08:00 AM, #6
     Reply :) You are my hero, Lowbie looter (Guest), 08-Nov-08 12:45 PM, #5
     Reply Sounds buggy, incognito, 08-Nov-08 07:54 PM, #8
Reply I assume it was too much flaming..., Zefta (Guest), 07-Nov-08 03:50 PM, #1
     Reply RE: I assume it was too much flaming..., Bajula, 07-Nov-08 08:03 PM, #2
     Reply You were tough very young, Rogue, 09-Nov-08 11:17 PM, #74
          Reply Try healers, gotta love healers! Even the fluffy ones!, Zefta (Guest), 14-Nov-08 07:32 PM, #113
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