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#44400, "I know I'm sort of an outsider to this but I'd like to ..."
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Thera is a world where by being born a fire giant, dark elf, duergar, or studying the practice of intrinsically evil magics (necromancer/AP stuff) you are evil. There will be a handful of these types that seek redemption, and they will generally be left alone. This leaves us to the vast majority of remaining evils. The vast majority of evils archetypes are those that will hurt others, leaving out the slothful, lazy evils . Marans want to save the innocents of the world that are harmed by these evil beings, and their way of doing it is eradicating them. Should they change? Maybe. We can try to separate evils in to various types, like so:
Redemption-Seeking Evil: These are the evils described above. These evils are actively seeking to be turned neutral or even good. Marans should have absolutely no problems with them other than possibly discomfort from being around them.
#### Evils: These are the 'I picked an evil race/class but I never do anything evil why do you attack me!!' evils. This -may- be what your fire giant was. These characters are like RL people who claim to be satan worshippers, but when you ask them what do they sacrifice in their rituals they say things like 'Oh no, we just have monthly bake sales, nature hikes, and discuss different ways to dress in black.' PC's who follow this pattern should be turned neutral if they go too far w/ their goodness, and Marans if they come across one who truly exhibits '#### Evil' aspects should then (1) push them to seek full redemption; (2) watch over them to see if they are doing anything to harm the Fort, directly or indirectly, or to assist evil causes; and (3) punish them if they find they are truly acting evil. Marans should keep a list for probationary "####" evils, and check it twice, like Santa!
Predisposed Evils: Predisposed evils are those that do have evil tendencies, but due to various circumstances, either the evil tendencies have very little or no chance of inflicting damage on others, or they may actually assist "the forces of good" and the people more than they hurt them. This may have also been your fire giant. Since the idea behind well RP'd evils is that they should always be inclined to self-serve, and the idea behind evil entities is to grant self serving and often destructive power in return for cruel deeds, you never know when this sort of evil will end up taking a hell trip, be enticed by a demon to perform favors for favors, and eventually become a burden to the Maran, and thus should have been destroyed in the first place. The only time a Maran should really consider allowing these types to exist is if they feel that these types are too harmless, stupid, or well- controlled by a non-evil force, to be a threat. Evil villagers fall under the third part (well-controlled) very often simply because their ideals are too rigid to allow much outside- harming evil acts, and they constantly fight Scion and Empire.
Back to my other point... I agree in general that it feels weird that Empire and Fortress essentially operate in the same way, PK-wise and structure-wise, but I do not think its like some sort of bad RP in the same way as in World War II you had the Axis and Allied powers, both with militiaries whose objective is to eliminate the enemy. This doesn't mean the American military was evil, it was defending itself and its allies which weren't the aggressors (At least that's what my teacher told me!).
It would be neat if Maran were more independent loners, but in return they'd have to have greater powers else you're just basically asking for a handicap. In the reverse, I could also see potential in making an evil, super-powerful loner PC - the vampire that stalks the cities hunting citizens, which the Maran need to hunt, subdue, go to their lair/Plane of Existence or otherwise do something to inhibit them.
Anyways, my two dollars, - Runaktla
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(AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Niazuruzain Cadabra'Ra the Dark Sp...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Fri 06-Jan-06 09:07 AM
I told you,
Sarmas (Guest),
06-Jan-06 05:15 AM, #62
its me,
darus (Guest),
05-Jan-06 10:24 PM, #58
That was ugly.,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
06-Jan-06 02:08 AM, #60
Well, I only interacted with you once in my life.,
Dolza (Guest),
05-Jan-06 07:38 PM, #54
In defense of things...,
Onaelith (Guest),
05-Jan-06 07:55 PM, #55
RE: In defense of things...,
darus (Guest),
05-Jan-06 09:43 PM, #56
Correct.,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
06-Jan-06 01:52 AM, #59
Fair enough,
Dolza (Guest),
06-Jan-06 04:36 AM, #63
You're being silly.,
DC Unreg (Guest),
06-Jan-06 10:27 AM, #64
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Niazuruzain Cadabra'Ra the Dar...,
Alduros (Guest),
04-Jan-06 08:30 PM, #31
A worthy emporer indeed...,
Quaern (Guest),
04-Jan-06 06:58 PM, #27
PBF,
Niazuruzian (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:11 PM, #5
I'll get it. nt,
StrouththeNecro (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:21 PM, #8
Thanks a lot, man! (nt),
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 06:09 AM, #45
At last I'm dead.,
Niazuruzian (Guest),
04-Jan-06 01:51 PM, #2
You forgot your priest!,
Zevsa (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:02 PM, #4
RE: You forgot your priest!,
Niazuruzian (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:14 PM, #6
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Dulmisa (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:15 PM, #7
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Muuloc,
04-Jan-06 02:33 PM, #9
Abracadabra! And the soap merchant goes poof,
Endalion (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:40 PM, #10
Damn you and your old age.,
Onaelith (Guest),
04-Jan-06 02:44 PM, #11
Decent Job,
Khasotholas,
04-Jan-06 02:58 PM, #12
RE: Decent Job,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 01:37 AM, #36
Phooey,
Grysh (Guest),
04-Jan-06 03:14 PM, #13
RE: Phooey,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 01:44 AM, #37
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Aarn,
04-Jan-06 03:26 PM, #14
What is weird is...,
Beer,
04-Jan-06 04:08 PM, #17
RE: What is weird is...,
nepenthe,
04-Jan-06 04:14 PM, #18
So...,
Beer,
04-Jan-06 05:12 PM, #23
In my opinion? Yes.,
nepenthe,
04-Jan-06 05:13 PM, #24
A fix for full looting.,
Someone (Guest),
04-Jan-06 11:19 PM, #33
RE: A fix for full looting.,
Someone (Guest),
04-Jan-06 11:22 PM, #34
RE: A fix for full looting.,
Aarn,
04-Jan-06 11:43 PM, #35
Looting in brief...,
Aarn,
04-Jan-06 04:21 PM, #20
Marans,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 01:57 AM, #38
I know I'm sort of an outsider to this but I'd like to ...,
Runaktla (Guest),
05-Jan-06 03:27 AM #42
Oops, haha,
Runaktla (Guest),
05-Jan-06 03:29 AM, #43
Thanks for the pointer,
DurNominator,
05-Jan-06 06:42 AM, #47
Well actually,
Runaktla (Guest),
05-Jan-06 07:01 AM, #49
Maran RP,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 05:58 AM, #44
RE: Maran RP,
Runaktla (Guest),
05-Jan-06 06:59 AM, #48
RE: Marans,
DurNominator,
05-Jan-06 06:36 AM, #46
RE: Marans and empirials,
darus (Guest),
05-Jan-06 10:01 PM, #57
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Vesacha (Guest),
04-Jan-06 03:47 PM, #15
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 02:02 AM, #39
The Emperor is Dead, Long live the Emperor....,
Cuucqa (Guest),
04-Jan-06 04:04 PM, #16
Oh and on the three things you dislike..,
Cuucqa (Guest),
04-Jan-06 04:53 PM, #21
Such a shame.,
Ilimya (Guest),
04-Jan-06 04:21 PM, #19
Living in fear.,
Oqoko (Guest),
04-Jan-06 04:54 PM, #22
Much Respect,
Razmorthin (Guest),
04-Jan-06 05:27 PM, #25
RE: Much Respect,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 02:40 AM, #40
Damded I kinda liked you!,
Volicitry (Guest),
04-Jan-06 06:23 PM, #26
dude...,
Bajula,
04-Jan-06 07:06 PM, #28
RE: dude...,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 02:45 AM, #41
Damn.,
Strouth,
04-Jan-06 07:58 PM, #29
small addition,
Strouth,
04-Jan-06 08:01 PM, #30
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Alriac (Guest),
04-Jan-06 09:16 PM, #32
Ah. Well this stinks.,
Falun (Guest),
05-Jan-06 08:08 AM, #50
Death and taxes.,
Feleniel (Guest),
05-Jan-06 11:49 AM, #51
More about full looting.,
Niazuruzain (Guest),
05-Jan-06 01:04 PM, #52
No man, just can't resist.,
Ajegrhi (Anonymous),
05-Jan-06 03:47 PM, #53
RE: At last I'm dead.,
Grunlath (Guest),
06-Jan-06 04:21 AM, #61
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Niazuruzain Cadabra'Ra the Dar...,
Laenelis (Guest),
04-Jan-06 01:07 PM, #1
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Niazuruzain Cadabra'Ra the Dar...,
Niaz (Guest),
04-Jan-06 01:55 PM, #3
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