Although I, personally, am not a big latter-day Oshui fan, I am sympathetic to him, because honestly most of the people who play the game feel like, if they're neutral, they can try to kill Fort and Fort pretty much just has to suck it up -- that an hour later Fort can't decide, "Hey, things are more in my favor now -- I'm going to kill that guy who tried to kill me earlier."

And I think that's crap and it drives me insane whenever I play good. Good does not have to mean you're "super-turn-the-other-cheek double-Jesus good." Good can legitimately choose to punish evil acts.

Easily 90-95% of the complaints I ever saw about Oshui were of almost exactly that form. The other 5-10% sure did rub me the wrong way, though, and even when Oshui's actions were very defensible, his attitude around them could still be really emo/bitchy and annoy me.

I think reasonable people can disagree about where exactly the line falls between "tough, non-pushover goodie" and "you're not really good, anymore."

I don't think you were asking me but there's my opinion if you wanted it.