lasentia | Fri 30-Sep-11 12:22 PM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
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#103010, "People always find reasons to complain"
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To begin, I don't really recall seeing anyone complaining about Tavlin. I see lots more complaints about other characters, and I generally always chalk it up to people pissed cause somebody just beat them down too easily.
Everyone that complained about Tavlin should play a necro and see what it takes to even get there, and then once they do see how easy it is to amass what Tavlin did. Even with Twist's skill he died a lot pre mummy (at least for a Twist char)
Have people forgotten about what it was like fighting with Ahtiehli or Satebos. Ahtiehli, I think, would have shredded Tavlin just cause of phylacteries. You had about a 1 - 1000 chance of beating either of those liches solo. Tavlin was almost tame by comparison. Tavlin the lich would have been much scarier. But even had he gotten the quest, it would have been hard to argue Tavlin was not the most deserving necromancer of the fifth age to get a lich quest.
Tavlin really was not something special in terms of an Imm favored way from what I saw. Everyone knew Reksah wanted a necro in scion, anyone could have made a necro char and probably got the advisor spot. Nobody took advantage of the opportunity, so they should not complain because someone else did. Even if it was Twist.
Tavlin was a mummy chancellor with a great set played by one of Cf's truly skilled players. Most any vet can amass a nice gear set, and that has nothing to do with Imm love. He had a tatoo as well. Anyone can get a tattoo, but again, you have to put the work into getting one. He won an RC, again available to all. I generally fail to see how Tavlin really got any favored treatment at all. If anything I think he worked harder for less, and so it's hard to hold anything against Twist for him actually putting real effort into his chars and getting any level of rewards, especially when lots of players in his shoes would probably complain they weren't getting enough rewards for all they did and how bad ass they were.
And I enjoy knowing there are those types out there for one. They make the game interesting.
I wish more imms played more mortal characters personally. I always did want to see a Zulgh or Daev played mort.
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(DELETED) [SCION] Tavlin Umedron the Nightmare of Ages ...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Thu 29-Sep-11 07:36 PM
Question to Twist,
Explosion,
09-Oct-11 02:21 AM, #147
I answered that on the log boards...,
Twist,
09-Oct-11 10:27 AM, #148
Aha, thanks.,
Explosion,
09-Oct-11 01:10 PM, #149
RE: Aha, thanks.,
Daevryn,
09-Oct-11 02:20 PM, #150
Great chancellor.,
Zhebulon (Anonymous),
08-Oct-11 04:45 PM, #146
We had some good fights when I as playing Olum....,
Tac,
03-Oct-11 10:03 AM, #136
Heh well if you'll recall...,
Twist,
03-Oct-11 11:36 AM, #139
I recall you saying that, and apparently thinking that....,
Tac,
03-Oct-11 06:40 PM, #145
A fantastic enemy.,
Shinju (Anonymous),
02-Oct-11 08:08 PM, #135
Boo!,
Skeeta Twitterlark (Anonymous),
01-Oct-11 04:27 PM, #127
har.,
Twist,
01-Oct-11 05:59 PM, #128
RE: har.,
Skeeta Twitterlark (Anonymous),
01-Oct-11 06:08 PM, #129
Well done, sirrah.,
Rindros (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 10:37 PM, #116
RE: Well done, sirrah.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 11:24 PM, #117
RE: (DELETED) [SCION] Tavlin Umedron the Nightmare of A...,
Haeg/Rade (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 09:59 PM, #110
You were great.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 10:16 PM, #114
RE: You were great.,
Rade,
01-Oct-11 09:51 AM, #121
RE: (DELETED) [SCION] Tavlin Umedron the Nightmare of A...,
Lisos (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 07:31 PM, #109
Yeah I'm generally a loner too...,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 10:14 PM, #113
You've always been my arch-enemy,
Ozrek (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 03:54 PM, #102
Well Tavlin was AMAZING,
Tesline,
30-Sep-11 12:38 PM, #93
Twist doesn't hate Scions...,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 03:10 PM, #98
Thanks Twist,
Masardu (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 12:17 PM, #91
You inducted Rasay,
reject0,
30-Sep-11 08:36 AM, #84
Exactly.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 08:42 AM, #85
Also something I wanted to comment on,
reject0,
01-Oct-11 09:33 AM, #120
RE: (DELETED) [SCION] Tavlin Umedron the Nightmare of A...,
Morin (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 08:15 AM, #80
Bleh,
Ghiran (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 10:16 PM, #50
So...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 10:18 PM, #51
Cyradia put me on tilt,
Gaspar,
29-Sep-11 10:36 PM, #54
I didn't let it bother me.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 10:38 PM, #55
EL OH EL,
Gaspar,
29-Sep-11 10:44 PM, #57
Had no idea on how to deal with you or the "army",
Umnys (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 10:08 PM, #47
That one time at/before the Destructor.,
Kalageadon,
29-Sep-11 10:02 PM, #45
Funny, that's the one log I had editted and ready to po...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 10:08 PM, #48
People Talk..,
Kalageadon,
29-Sep-11 11:45 PM, #63
good job seemed like you always had my number,
Tontik,
29-Sep-11 09:54 PM, #44
Excellent job, very fun char!!,
Dallevian,
29-Sep-11 09:37 PM, #40
That was you, eh?,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:40 PM, #41
I probably would have died and raged.,
Dallevian,
29-Sep-11 09:44 PM, #42
RE: (DELETED) [SCION] Tavlin Umedron the Nightmare of A...,
Caerdryn (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 08:50 PM, #18
OP,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:19 PM, #36
I love that edge, Superphallus. n/t,
Caerdryn (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 09:33 PM, #39
And then the reality sets in that it's a 2d game,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Sep-11 12:06 PM, #90
On a related note...,
Caerdryn (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 01:50 PM, #94
Kill the zombies instead of Tavlin.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 03:13 PM, #99
RE: Kill the zombies instead of Tavlin.,
The Zaan (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 03:23 PM, #100
Echoes works on undead.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 04:26 PM, #104
RE: Echoes works on undead.,
Isildur,
30-Sep-11 05:49 PM, #108
Try quaffing anything as a mummy and get back to me.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 10:02 PM, #111
RE: Try quaffing anything as a mummy and get back to me...,
Isildur,
30-Sep-11 10:26 PM, #115
Abstraction...,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 11:36 PM, #118
Btw, there is a bug with abstraction,
mummy (Anonymous),
20-Oct-11 09:05 AM, #154
Did people summon your zombies away?,
Oldril,
30-Sep-11 04:04 PM, #103
A few times...,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 04:27 PM, #105
spam turn undead work?,
Tsunami,
30-Sep-11 03:34 PM, #101
On the accusations...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:00 PM, #5
RE: On the accusations...,
ORB,
29-Sep-11 08:24 PM, #11
Ah gotcha.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:27 PM, #13
Spores...,
Torak,
29-Sep-11 09:00 PM, #24
Your rant in particular wasn't all that bad...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:06 PM, #26
Two things...,
TMNS,
29-Sep-11 09:09 PM, #28
Eh one of the special undead fears nt,
Torak,
29-Sep-11 09:14 PM, #33
This is not true (re scourge),
incognito,
02-Oct-11 06:51 AM, #130
A lot of people used that option...,
Twist,
02-Oct-11 09:40 AM, #132
RE: This is not true (re scourge),
Isildur,
03-Oct-11 10:13 AM, #137
RE: This is not true (re scourge),
Twist,
03-Oct-11 11:25 AM, #138
RE: This is not true (re scourge),
Isildur,
03-Oct-11 11:53 AM, #141
When you do a "who" and see 40 people on...,
Twist,
03-Oct-11 11:56 AM, #143
Sight of the damned is not ftw,
incognito,
03-Oct-11 11:50 AM, #140
RE: Sight of the damned is not ftw,
Isildur,
03-Oct-11 11:56 AM, #142
FWIW, I never said healing sleep was the only way to SU...,
TMNS,
03-Oct-11 12:41 PM, #144
RE: Spores...,
Daevryn,
29-Sep-11 10:07 PM, #46
I'd love for you to throw some thoughts on the new...,
TMNS,
30-Sep-11 12:51 AM, #70
Heheh, loads of Corpses!,
Abernyte,
30-Sep-11 06:46 AM, #78
If this isn't you Nep/Twist, I'll be shocked.,
TripHitNdip (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 07:41 PM, #2
So yeah....,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 07:41 PM, #1
RE: So yeah....,
GoTeamUnderdog (NOT garwern),
29-Sep-11 07:54 PM, #3
Thats a Shame,
Quezzumpliet,
29-Sep-11 08:00 PM, #4
Sad that the crybaby playerbase claims a great char :(,
Oldril,
29-Sep-11 08:14 PM, #6
You're right, Tavlin owed a story,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:16 PM, #8
I agree with you, but dude......,
Aereglen,
29-Sep-11 08:57 PM, #22
RE: Sad that the crybaby playerbase claims a great char...,
Reksah,
29-Sep-11 09:09 PM, #29
Loved this character,
Illeryia (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 08:13 PM, #7
RE: So yeah....,
The Zaan (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 08:18 PM, #9
Most of this is answered in my post above...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:23 PM, #10
Noooooo!!!!!!!!!,
N b M,
29-Sep-11 08:25 PM, #12
Oh yeah. Unicorns.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:42 PM, #15
The zombies and the level thing.,
Oldril,
29-Sep-11 08:48 PM, #17
Yes and no.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:52 PM, #20
You crazy, man. You have nothing in common with Twist.,
TMNS,
29-Sep-11 08:33 PM, #14
It wasn't so much the speculation about Twist=Tavlin,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:45 PM, #16
I thought you deserved everything you got, personally.,
TMNS,
29-Sep-11 08:51 PM, #19
Heh,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 08:56 PM, #21
RE: Heh,
Gurzgred (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 09:14 PM, #32
Ok true...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:18 PM, #35
RE: Ok true...,
Gurz (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 09:22 PM, #37
RE: You crazy, man. You have nothing in common with Tw...,
Daevryn,
29-Sep-11 10:10 PM, #49
RE: So yeah....,
Isildur,
29-Sep-11 08:57 PM, #23
Yeah I knew that...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:12 PM, #31
RE: So yeah....,
Jitleph (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 09:03 PM, #25
Yeah that...,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:09 PM, #27
RE: So yeah....,
Rhone (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 09:10 PM, #30
Superwizard.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 09:15 PM, #34
RE: So yeah....,
Gleebrok (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 09:29 PM, #38
RE: So yeah....,
Reksah,
29-Sep-11 09:53 PM, #43
I loved me some Tavlin,
Nuk (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 10:25 PM, #52
I generally know who is playing who.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 10:32 PM, #53
Deleted message,
Bell,
29-Sep-11 10:53 PM, #56
Haters gun hate.,
Bell (NOT Oryntohr),
29-Sep-11 10:54 PM, #58
Nothing not to like about Tavlin,
Allysia (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 11:28 PM, #59
Yeah people always thought to "ambush" me at HLK,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 11:31 PM, #60
Honest question.,
Jhyrbian,
29-Sep-11 11:35 PM, #61
No.,
Twist,
29-Sep-11 11:41 PM, #62
RE: No.,
Jhyrbian,
29-Sep-11 11:49 PM, #64
My next one will almost surely be less optimal,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 12:00 AM, #66
Thats cause you left your pocket Gap at home!,
Gaplemo,
30-Sep-11 12:46 AM, #69
Gap-Nav!,
Abernyte,
30-Sep-11 06:29 AM, #77
Where is Dur when you need a picture :P nt,
Gaplemo,
30-Sep-11 02:59 PM, #97
I can back this up.,
Irusan (Anonymous),
01-Oct-11 11:27 AM, #123
Heh I wasn't there for your friend.,
Twist,
01-Oct-11 12:29 PM, #125
Eh... how did you use that scroll?,
Explosion,
20-Oct-11 05:06 AM, #151
Not really...,
Twist,
20-Oct-11 08:08 AM, #152
Heh, i see. Thanks :) (n/t),
Explosion,
20-Oct-11 08:47 AM, #153
RE: Honest question.,
Gravizk (Anonymous),
29-Sep-11 11:52 PM, #65
RE: Honest question.,
Jhyrbian,
30-Sep-11 12:01 AM, #67
damnit,
Zosi (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 12:08 AM, #68
I really need to stop playing against you :P,
Hopelessdwarf,
30-Sep-11 01:09 AM, #71
Anathema to Scion,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 08:30 AM, #83
You rocked, forget the haters.,
Angynn (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 01:13 AM, #72
Angynn is a good example, IMO...,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 08:26 AM, #82
Hehe,
Angynn (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 10:14 AM, #87
Excellent character,
Volker (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 02:03 AM, #73
We did a few things together...,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 08:21 AM, #81
RE: We did a few things together...,
Volker (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 10:30 AM, #88
I don't even know what I was supposed to do against you...,
Vallinane (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 02:17 AM, #74
Had some insane fights against you,
Java,
30-Sep-11 02:32 AM, #75
Ringing the doorbell,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 08:13 AM, #79
I'm glad you didn't do that against me..,
Java,
30-Sep-11 02:08 PM, #96
I was SO looking forward to RP with you as my current.....,
Amberion,
30-Sep-11 04:46 AM, #76
I enjoyed interacting with you,
Nirilas (Anonymous),
30-Sep-11 09:25 AM, #86
RE: So yeah....,
Daevryn,
30-Sep-11 10:47 AM, #89
People always find reasons to complain,
lasentia,
30-Sep-11 12:22 PM #92
Not for nothing, but they all play mortals.,
TMNS,
30-Sep-11 04:47 PM, #107
RE: Not for nothing, but they all play mortals.,
Twist,
30-Sep-11 10:10 PM, #112
I don't think...,
Vortex Magus,
30-Sep-11 01:56 PM, #95
Well, that's kind of the situation we're currently in.,
TMNS,
30-Sep-11 04:40 PM, #106
Meh,
ORB,
01-Oct-11 06:19 AM, #119
I'm deeply disappointed that this happened. ,
Irusan (Anonymous),
01-Oct-11 11:21 AM, #122
A good way to put it, right there.,
Twist,
01-Oct-11 12:05 PM, #124
As gramma would say "Hate the sin but love the sinner. ...,
Irusan (Anonymous),
01-Oct-11 04:15 PM, #126
RE: So yeah....,
Thrakburzug,
02-Oct-11 07:10 AM, #131
Heh.,
Twist,
02-Oct-11 10:04 AM, #133
RE: Heh.,
HammerSong,
02-Oct-11 11:11 AM, #134
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