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VladamirFri 24-Jun-11 10:32 AM
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#100561, "I never said the choice wasn't valid, just not what I would consider "badassery"."


          

From a roleplay/PK perspective they were perfectly fine decisions, but just because something fit's into your roleplay doesn't mean it's going to be something the other person is going to find fun. I don't mind dying, I don't mind overly much being looted*, and I don't mind people taking an easy kill if they can find it. But that doesn't make it necessarily fun for the person on the receiving end, and sometimes people need to really consider that before they do things.

It would be perfectly valid to make a binder thief who didn't believe in killing, who would just run around jacking and binding people, dragging them around or having them summoned, and just standing around for hours re-jacking/binding people as necessary to keep them bound and immobile for hours on end. Does this sound like fun for the people on the receiving end?

I of course used an extreme example, but only to make my point more clearly. There are things that can happen in the game, that may be perfectly good examples of what your character is able to do, but ultimately you need to remember that the person on the other end is supposed to be having fun too.

I pointed out that things done by so-called 'badass' characters were really what I would consider beneath someone who is really a badass. Balta may have been the most spectacular thing ever, but I'd never know about it since the cheap kill (and once when he flew down to trep me out of range when I was exploring, then flew off) was my only interaction with him ever. Mhar likewise, except his roleplay put me off even further. If people don't voice how a characters actions make them feel about the game, how will they ever know?

Mhar racked up 422 kills, which is both impressive and telling at the same time. It shows that he is capable as a player, but that he also killed a LOT of people who because of their situation at the time (solo fighting 3 much higher level mobs in my case) stood zero chance against him. Really, someone that capable as a player shouldn't have to resort to taking easy kills, and the fact that he did it, and did it frequently, shows that he basically ran around taking any kill on any person who he could. He wasn't an AP with an axe to feed, so really the only driving force behind it was to rack up a big PK count. I don't really think of people who do this as good for the mud generally speaking. CF is supposed to be a PK mud with enforced RP. But when your RP is "I run around and kill anyone who I think I possibly can, then talk a whole ton of smack to them afterwards about how great I am" it really cheapens the RP aspect of CF. I mean, that's really just Beront being Beront in a dark elf suit.

Roleplay does, and SHOULD restrict your actions. But when your roleplay really boils down to "I'm a ####, who does what I want, when I want, I'll kill you for absolutely no reason if I possibly can, and then I love to talk a whole lot of #### after I land a super cheap kill" I fail to see how this is roleplay at all. Just because he talked like a drow with his #### talk doesn't make it any better really. Other than someone to hate, which really is already in abundance in CF, what does this sort of behavior bring to the game other than frustration for people?

*Looting someone just for the sake of looting them sucks. I don't miss the days of full sac being the norm at all. The game is enough of a time sink without having to deal with this sort of crap. Looting #### you can actually use or have a valid role reason for taking is really just better for everyone IMHO.

  

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Reply Awesome job.., Irelia, 27-Jun-11 03:50 AM, #73
Reply Great Character., Nourn, 25-Jun-11 10:38 AM, #71
Reply Hmm, I'm a bit offended.., Chulun (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:34 PM, #50
Reply Just a little thing and more for future reference 'Thre..., Abernyte, 24-Jun-11 08:44 AM, #55
Reply Nothing to be offended about., lasentia, 24-Jun-11 09:50 AM, #58
Reply Well done..., Balta, 23-Jun-11 02:46 PM, #25
Reply I hope I will find the log, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:28 PM, #39
Reply hahahaha, Balta, 23-Jun-11 04:51 PM, #41
Reply Muters can rid themselves of spores easily enough, incognito, 23-Jun-11 05:11 PM, #42
Reply I'm going to make a supreme effort to make my point, wi..., Chindechok (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 06:46 PM, #47
     Reply Maybe you've been gone too long and forgot this game wa..., Tsunami, 23-Jun-11 08:52 PM, #51
     Reply Exactly!, Stunna, 24-Jun-11 09:42 AM, #57
     Reply I never said the choice wasn't valid, just not what I w..., Vladamir, 24-Jun-11 10:32 AM #59
          Reply You're kind of funny., Tsunami, 24-Jun-11 11:32 AM, #60
               Reply RE: You're kind of funny., Vladamir, 24-Jun-11 12:00 PM, #61
                    Reply Banballow didn't do anything close to the same thing., Tsunami, 24-Jun-11 12:20 PM, #62
                         Reply You're still just not getting it. , Vladamir, 24-Jun-11 12:42 PM, #63
                              Reply And I'm not allowed to give my opinion?, Tsunami, 24-Jun-11 12:49 PM, #64
                                   Reply I'm going to make one final point, then drop it., Vladamir, 24-Jun-11 03:21 PM, #66
     Reply I don't think that's fair, incognito, 24-Jun-11 02:55 PM, #65
     Reply RE: I'm going to make a supreme effort to make my point..., Isildur, 24-Jun-11 03:37 PM, #67
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     Reply RE: We were about to give you something but you - Age d..., Welverin, 23-Jun-11 06:33 AM, #3
     Reply Good Evil Character, Oogloop (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 06:59 AM, #4
     Reply Hah!, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:39 AM, #14
     Reply RE: We were about to give you something but you - Age d..., Bajula, 23-Jun-11 07:42 AM, #5
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          Reply RE: We were about to give you something but you - Age d..., Bajula, 23-Jun-11 08:58 AM, #17
          Reply You know better than that, incognito, 23-Jun-11 05:15 PM, #43
     Reply RE: We were about to give you something but you - Age d..., Daevryn, 23-Jun-11 08:12 AM, #6
     Reply That's all great stuff when it's RP and not just the pl..., Vladamir, 23-Jun-11 08:24 AM, #8
     Reply Thank you., Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:34 AM, #11
     Reply ####er!, TMNS, 23-Jun-11 08:35 AM, #12
     Reply CC, Twist, 23-Jun-11 08:13 AM, #7
     Reply RE: CC, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:25 AM, #10
     Reply I gated to your Limited wand source and giggled., Jallastan (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 12:35 PM, #23
     Reply Well played character., Onya (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:24 AM, #9
     Reply I will open you the secret, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:48 AM, #15
     Reply And I thought I was old., Allysia (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:52 AM, #16
     Reply RE: And I thought I was old., Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:09 PM, #29
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     Reply Nice job, Nevaelle (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 10:19 AM, #19
     Reply RE: Nice job, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:12 PM, #31
     Reply You need to stop trying to neuro drow, incognito, 23-Jun-11 05:18 PM, #44
     Reply RE: We were about to give you something but you - Age d..., Sivyh (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 10:55 AM, #20
     Reply And again, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:14 PM, #32
          Reply RE: And again, Sivyh (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 05:52 PM, #45
               Reply Takes playing one to figure that out. NT, Vankhu (Anonymous), 25-Jun-11 02:04 AM, #69
     Reply Damnit, Armagon (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 12:12 PM, #21
     Reply RE: Damnit, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:16 PM, #33
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     Reply I was a fan, Eck (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 02:59 PM, #27
     Reply RE: I was a fan, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:22 PM, #37
     Reply Congratz on an awesome char!, Cawr (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 03:33 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Congratz on an awesome char!, Mharlndarn (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:25 PM, #38
          Reply Yeah, I know. I'm looking forward to see..., Cawr (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 04:36 PM, #40
     Reply Great run, Zaolu (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 06:32 PM, #46
     Reply Nice char., Lightmage, 23-Jun-11 06:51 PM, #48
     Reply Maybe if you quit instantly deleting, TripHitNdip (Anonymous), 23-Jun-11 08:18 PM, #49
     Reply Have to say, I enjoyed Mhar around - as much as I dread..., Straklaw, 24-Jun-11 12:48 AM, #52
     Reply Hated that brooch, Abernyte, 24-Jun-11 08:32 AM, #53
     Reply RE: Hated that brooch, Daevryn, 24-Jun-11 08:54 AM, #56
          Reply thank you, Abernyte, 24-Jun-11 06:10 PM, #68
     Reply Damn impressive., Olum (Anonymous), 24-Jun-11 08:34 AM, #54
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