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Topic subjectHelp me understand lag associated with the drum skill
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70070, Help me understand lag associated with the drum skill
Posted by Confused about drum on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Here is an edited log with names and prompts removed to protect the innocent. It LOOKS to me like a 5 hit drum not only lagged me for ~2 rounds but also only lagged the drummer for 1.9 rounds (he got another drum off before hurl torso went through). Can someone break down the lagging associated with this skill for me?


prompt removed dash south ham MaceWarrior
The Edge of the Feanwyyn Weald
Gnarled oaks, maples and elms loom before you in the darkness, their
twisted, skeletal branches scraping the darkened sky as they creak and moan
with the passage of a chill breeze. The ancient trees grow sparsely here,
fading slowly out of sight as they draw further from the comforting glow of
your dim light. Sudden rustling and snapping sounds shatter the quiet of the
night, conjuring images of creatures best left to childhood nightmares. Thin
tendrils of mist cling faintly to the hardwoods in the darkness, wrapping
them and you in their chill embrace, filling your lungs with the heavy scent
of decay.


MaceWarrior the race is here.
A slender elf in a simple green tunic stalks the woods looking for defilers.
A massive cloud giant drags two logs behind him as he slowly makes his way
towards the river.
You swing a dagger in a sweeping blow to MaceWarrior's hamstring!
Your hamstring slice MASSACRES MaceWarrior!
MaceWarrior has a few scratches.

prompt removed
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior has a few scratches.

prompt removed
MaceWarrior drums at you with his maces.
MaceWarrior's drumming maces MANGLES you!
MaceWarrior's drumming maces EVISCERATES you!
MaceWarrior has a few scratches.

prompt removed
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating.
You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath.
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating.
MaceWarrior dodges your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior has a few scratches.

prompt removed artery
You thrust your dagger towards MaceWarrior, attempting to sever his artery!
Your deep gash EVISCERATES MaceWarrior!
MaceWarrior has some small but disgusting cuts.

prompt removed
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating.
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating.
You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior!
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior has some small but disgusting cuts.

prompt removed
MaceWarrior drums at you with his maces.
MaceWarrior's drumming maces MASSACRES you!
MaceWarrior's drumming maces DISMEMBERS you!
MaceWarrior's drumming maces MASSACRES you!
MaceWarrior's drumming maces DISMEMBERS you!
MaceWarrior's drumming maces *** DEVASTATES *** you!
MaceWarrior has some small but disgusting cuts.

prompt removed hurl torso

You dodge MaceWarrior's beating and close in for a concealed attack!
Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior!
You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath and close in for a concealed attack!
Your searing light EVISCERATES MaceWarrior!
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
Your searing light nearly breaks through MaceWarrior's blocking blow.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior dodges your searing light.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed
MaceWarrior's beating DISMEMBERS you!
You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath and close in for a concealed attack!
Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior!
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed flee

Weaving through the Flow of Shadows, you avoid MaceWarrior's drum.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed flee

MaceWarrior continues to bleed from his wounds.
MaceWarrior's bleeding hamstring mauls him.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed
You hurl a throwing dagger at MaceWarrior striking him square in the chest!
A spray of blood erupts from MaceWarrior's wound!
Your hurled dagger grazes MaceWarrior.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating and close in for a concealed attack!
Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior!
MaceWarrior dodges your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating and close in for a concealed attack!
Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior!
You barely manage to turn MaceWarrior's wrath aside.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior dodges your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior parries your searing light.
MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.

prompt removed
MaceWarrior drums at you with his maces.
MaceWarrior's drumming maces MASSACRES you!
Western Outskirts of Galadon
Standing at the outskirts of Galadon, you can see the enormous battlements of
the city to the east. Tall spires and towers rise high above the wall,
glinting in the bright sun. The city stretches for miles to the north and
south, one of the largest cities in the realm. The vast Feanwyyn Weald lies
off to the west, away from the dirt trail. The forest extends as far north
and south as you can see, truly an enormous forest. The old dirt trail
continues around the edge of Galadon to the north and south.


You flee from combat!
70071, 5 hit drums lag. They permalag...
Posted by Tac on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In that the drummer gets next command.

Seems your understanding is correct, you just didn't know that previously and/or don't like it.
70072, Thanks, just didn't know before, I like it! N/T
Posted by No longer confused on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
N/T
70073, RE: 5 hit drums lag. They permalag...
Posted by MaceWarrior on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
What has been said is correct. A 5 hit drum does 2 and a bit rounds of lag allowing for the mace user to get in the next command.

If you still need some further clarification this educational video may help! :) The move being largely adapted from this original technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nel9hgv54e0
70074, That video...
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Is totally not how I envision the drum skill looking/working.

I think of it more like a guy with two big hammers playing a timpani (kettle drum) solo about the head and shoulders of his opponent.
70075, RE: That video...
Posted by MaceWarrior on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I will concede that your quest for facts in this case is likely more "Accurate" :)
70078, Do they, now?
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
http://www.qhcf.net/phorum/read.php?3,1091118,1091118#msg-1091118
http://www.qhcf.net/phorum/read.php?3,1090785,1090785#msg-1090785

I see a 5-hitter lagging them at most for one round there.
70079, RE: Do they, now?
Posted by Jarmel on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Shall I dig up the logs of trip lagging for 1 round?

"Individual results may vary logs." :)
70080, Yeah but I've never seen drum permalagging
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
One round of lag for the opponent, at best.
70081, RE: Yeah but I've never seen drum permalagging
Posted by Jarmel on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The log topic shows 2 and a bit rounds of lag.

Artery 1 round of lag.
1 round combat.
Drum
Hurl torso right after drum
Two rounds later drum avoided
After the avoided skill hurl occurs.

There is your log 😁
70082, Yeah but it's the only one.
Posted by Murphy on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
All others I've seen (and experienced) show drum lagging only for one round.
70084, Almost certainly size/str based....
Posted by Tac on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In that I don't believe smurf 5 hit drums give you the good stuff, but that could be my own mis-remembering.