I'll admit the RP of a lot of players could be better (myself included) but not everyone can be expected to be an elite player. I guess it's all part of learning the ropes, which makes you wonder how long some people have been learning. Other times people just don't care. They come to kill, and then they leave. Some come to do it all, join every cabal, get every tattoo, etc. You'd think these people would keep things on the up and up, but what can ya do? Others of course are just here to have fun and aren't that interested in being the best they can be. It's just all part of game. You can't exactly force people be elite (just appreicate when people do), which is why I like the Empire cabal... as Zulginlour said (I think) "Easy in, easy out". Yeah any idiot and their grandmother can get in, but it also won't take very much for them to both be kicked out and hunted for the rest of their life. Which, if you ask me, is a very good reason not to be just any idiot that got in.